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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#521 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:19 pm

Celticsfan81 wrote:A better version of Jeff Green....


This post could rile some up, but a better prime Jeff Green is a really good player.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#522 » by Bleeding Green » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:22 pm

LeBron is a better Jeff Green.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#523 » by SMTBSI » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:27 pm

Celticsfan81 wrote:A better version of Jeff Green....

What is an open, unbounded set, Alex?
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#524 » by Dangit » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:55 pm

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Celticsfan81 wrote:A better version of Jeff Green....


This post could rile some up, but a better prime Jeff Green is a really good player.


It wasn't an insult .... Jeff Green had all the tools ... Jaylen is better at almost everything with absolutely zero court vision and horrible decision making .
Hopefully I'm selling him short ... My fear is I'm not .
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#525 » by Tyakack » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:05 pm

Jaylen will end up being a really really good player that may make the allstar team on certain seasons. I don't think he will end up being the superstar alot of people on here think he will be though. Not completely closing the door on the possibility. I just don't think it will happen.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#526 » by Parliament10 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:35 pm

Tyakack wrote:Jaylen will end up being a really really good player that may make the allstar team on certain seasons. I don't think he will end up being the superstar alot of people on here think he will be though. Not completely closing the door on the possibility. I just don't think it will happen.

I see Brown as being a great complimentary piece to Tatum. I liked the Pippen analogy.
I don't think Brown will be spectacular alone. But with Tatum, they'll be great.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#527 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:23 am

anyone hoping for Jaylen to suddenly be capable of anything other than hitting threes (if wide open on C & S), finishing in transition or taking advantage of the occasional switch, need to temper their expectations. He's not capable imo, but especially with no real offseason to work on things. He's a solid #3. And until we get a real #2 (Pritchard?) behind Tatum we'll be pretenders. The problem with Jaylen is he's just not a natural basketball player. Simple acts like dribbling are an effort. The game moves way too fast for him, so that, combined with his poor handle has capped his upside. This wouldn't be an issue except the fans think he's a #2 and some actually think he's capable of being a #1.

Brad just needs to park him in the corner to spread things out for Tatum and Pritchard (until Kemba comes back) so he can do what he's good at. Trying to put more on his plate will end in disaster. It could affect his shooting because that's all about confidence.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#528 » by Saint Lazarus » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:27 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:anyone hoping for Jaylen to suddenly be capable of anything other than hitting threes (if wide open on C & S), finishing in transition or taking advantage of the occasional switch, need to temper their expectations. He's not capable imo, but especially with no real offseason to work on things. He's a solid #3. And until we get a real #2 (Pritchard?) behind Tatum we'll be pretenders. The problem with Jaylen is he's just not a natural basketball player. Simple acts like dribbling are an effort. The game moves way too fast for him, so that, combined with his poor handle has capped his upside. This wouldn't be an issue except the fans think he's a #2 and some actually think he's capable of being a #1.

Brad just needs to park him in the corner to spread things out for Tatum and Pritchard (until Kemba comes back) so he can do what he's good at. Trying to put more on his plate will end in disaster. It could affect his shooting because that's all about confidence.


I know this is your usual schitck with the Jaylen hate, but the "we get a real #2 (Pritchard?)" was completely unexpected and made me burst out laughing :lol:
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#529 » by themoneyteam2 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:59 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:anyone hoping for Jaylen to suddenly be capable of anything other than hitting threes (if wide open on C & S), finishing in transition or taking advantage of the occasional switch, need to temper their expectations. He's not capable imo, but especially with no real offseason to work on things. He's a solid #3. And until we get a real #2 (Pritchard?) behind Tatum we'll be pretenders. The problem with Jaylen is he's just not a natural basketball player. Simple acts like dribbling are an effort. The game moves way too fast for him, so that, combined with his poor handle has capped his upside. This wouldn't be an issue except the fans think he's a #2 and some actually think he's capable of being a #1.

Brad just needs to park him in the corner to spread things out for Tatum and Pritchard (until Kemba comes back) so he can do what he's good at. Trying to put more on his plate will end in disaster. It could affect his shooting because that's all about confidence.


Exactly until he develops into a superior player like a Lonzo Ball or RJ Barrett I think he just needs to stand in the corner on offense and hit the open threes.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#530 » by Celticfan_N_FL » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:12 pm

After his poor performance last night I'm confident Danny will be looking to trade him ASAP. Maybe Danny can convince the Shanghai Sharks to take him.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#531 » by Floody100 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:08 am

How the hell do you trade him after that performance ?
Obviously Harden’s the better player but the improvements he’s making each & every year are showing. 33 points & 4 assists without a turnover in his first game as our second option is great.
If Brown continues to work on his handles, vision & 3pt shooting there’s no reason why he can’t end up being a top 15 player in this league.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#532 » by GoGreen » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:21 am

Keep doubting Jaylen, he'll keep proving you wrong
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#533 » by GreenBloodedC » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:31 am

Some of the posters in this thread should be ashamed. SMH.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#534 » by 31to6 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:37 am

Saint Lazarus wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:anyone hoping for Jaylen to suddenly be capable of anything other than hitting threes (if wide open on C & S), finishing in transition or taking advantage of the occasional switch, need to temper their expectations. He's not capable imo, but especially with no real offseason to work on things. He's a solid #3. And until we get a real #2 (Pritchard?) behind Tatum we'll be pretenders. The problem with Jaylen is he's just not a natural basketball player. Simple acts like dribbling are an effort. The game moves way too fast for him, so that, combined with his poor handle has capped his upside. This wouldn't be an issue except the fans think he's a #2 and some actually think he's capable of being a #1.

Brad just needs to park him in the corner to spread things out for Tatum and Pritchard (until Kemba comes back) so he can do what he's good at. Trying to put more on his plate will end in disaster. It could affect his shooting because that's all about confidence.


I know this is your usual schitck with the Jaylen hate, but the "we get a real #2 (Pritchard?)" was completely unexpected and made me burst out laughing :lol:


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do we have enough Pritchard sample yet? ;)
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#535 » by playa-hater » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:44 am

How good can JB Become remains to be seen. But he has never been or will ever be a 3 and D player. He creates his own offense. Sometimes a bit out of control. And needs to find open players better for sure.

But 3 -D should be rested forever
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#536 » by themoneyteam2 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:55 am

Seems like he should just stand in the corner since he can’t dribble or create his own shot.

I just hope he can be better than Lonzo, Bridges, RJ Barrett, and Lauri Markannen someday.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#537 » by LewisnotMiller » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:57 am

Keeps making me think of Reggie Lewis. Guy just got a little better every year, but he wasn't a screamer and it took people a bit to notice.

My favourite Celtic right now, and I never expected that to be the case.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#538 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:07 am

Same as it was yesterday lol
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#539 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:01 am

playa-hater wrote:How good can JB Become remains to be seen. But he has never been or will ever be a 3 and D player. He creates his own offense. Sometimes a bit out of control. And needs to find open players better for sure.

But 3 -D should be rested forever


nah, he's been the epitome of a 3 and D on offense. We only have two weapons. It's a failure of the Bucks coaching that they didn't defend Jaylen better. There's no excuse for him being defended by Connoughton, Divencenzo and Middleton only when we have no other source of offense besides him and Tatum at the moment. He was left WIDE open for threes and mid range shots multiple times. He does have the ability to take scrubs off the dribble and when lazy defenders like Holiday can get don't clamp him down as well. He is absolutely not capable of having the offense run through him. Compare the shots Tatum had to take versus Jalen. Focus more on how players score more than stats. Also, he may have scored 33 but he gave up 25 so it's not as impressive.

I want to see this same energy from you fanboys when he has terrible games. But I know when he does the excuses will be flying around like usual. It's one game. Relax. If he does this consistently for the season I'll eat crow.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#540 » by Floody100 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:18 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:
playa-hater wrote:How good can JB Become remains to be seen. But he has never been or will ever be a 3 and D player. He creates his own offense. Sometimes a bit out of control. And needs to find open players better for sure.

But 3 -D should be rested forever


nah, he's been the epitome of a 3 and D on offense. We only have two weapons. It's a failure of the Bucks coaching that they didn't defend Jaylen better. There's no excuse for him being defended by Connoughton, Divencenzo and Middleton only when we have no other source of offense besides him and Tatum at the moment. He was left WIDE open for threes and mid range shots multiple times. He does have the ability to take scrubs off the dribble and when lazy defenders like Holiday can get don't clamp him down as well. He is absolutely not capable of having the offense run through him. Compare the shots Tatum had to take versus Jalen. Focus more on how players score more than stats. Also, he may have scored 33 but he gave up 25 so it's not as impressive.

I want to see this same energy from you fanboys when he has terrible games. But I know when he does the excuses will be flying around like usual. It's one game. Relax. If he does this consistently for the season I'll eat crow.


Everyone has terrible games ...
Don’t change though :lol:

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