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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#21 » by DickGrayson » Wed Jan 6, 2021 2:01 am

Jazz should go back to New Orleans after this beatdown.
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Post#22 » by god shammgod » Wed Jan 6, 2021 2:25 am

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Post#23 » by DaGawd » Wed Jan 6, 2021 2:27 am

They’re gonna come out motivated tomorrow. I’m glad Thibs is coaching us.. previous years the blowout loss was inevitable
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Post#24 » by BugginOut » Wed Jan 6, 2021 2:28 am

Going to be a tough test to try and beat this Jazz team who is probably going to be more locked in after an embarrassing loss like this. Let's hope we can lock them down
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Post#25 » by DowNY » Wed Jan 6, 2021 2:51 am

Jazz don’t even seem better than the Pacers. We need to take advantage and help continue a losing streak for them
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Post#26 » by Capn'O » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:06 am

BugginOut wrote:Going to be a tough test to try and beat this Jazz team who is probably going to be more locked in after an embarrassing loss like this. Let's hope we can lock them down


Mitch needs to **** 'em up for their disobedience.
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Post#27 » by GettinitDone » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:21 am

I dream of a once in a generation player making a clutch shot and clutch defensive play for us Knicks.
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Post#28 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:29 am

The Jazz have a really bad roster when you just look at it, especially in the context of Mitchell's age. He's gonna be asking for a trade in 2 years time, their 3 best perimeter players outside of him are 33, 33 and 31, their starting PF cannot do anything on offense either.
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Post#29 » by BugginOut » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:33 am

I just realized that Randle is 100 days younger than Caris LeVert. And the Nets want to use him as a centerpiece for a Harden trade lmao
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Post#30 » by HEZI » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:41 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The Jazz have a really bad roster when you just look at it, especially in the context of Mitchell's age. He's gonna be asking for a trade in 2 years time, their 3 best perimeter players outside of him are 33, 33 and 31, their starting PF cannot do anything on offense either.


That Gobert contract is going to be something they will regret. 34 / 37 / 40 / 43 mil per year over the following 4 seasons after this one. They are going to be stuck in mediocrity
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Post#31 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jan 6, 2021 4:13 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The Jazz have a really bad roster when you just look at it, especially in the context of Mitchell's age. He's gonna be asking for a trade in 2 years time, their 3 best perimeter players outside of him are 33, 33 and 31, their starting PF cannot do anything on offense either.


That Gobert contract is going to be something they will regret. 34 / 37 / 40 / 43 mil per year over the following 4 seasons after this one. They are going to be stuck in mediocrity



That contract was just gross, I don't know why they wouldn't shop him around to see who was willing to do a S&T. They don't have a single young player that can grow with Donovan, and they're going to be in the playoffs the next few years while aging and getting poor picks.
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Post#32 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jan 6, 2021 4:53 am

Luke Kennard's agent pulled the heist of the year.
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Post#33 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jan 6, 2021 5:02 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Luke Kennard's agent pulled the heist of the year.


I commented about that about a week ago. I was shocked he got was is essentially the max deal a guy coming off the rookie contract can get, but for players who are actually GOOD.
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Post#34 » by ChaosHamster » Wed Jan 6, 2021 5:03 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HEZI wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The Jazz have a really bad roster when you just look at it, especially in the context of Mitchell's age. He's gonna be asking for a trade in 2 years time, their 3 best perimeter players outside of him are 33, 33 and 31, their starting PF cannot do anything on offense either.


That Gobert contract is going to be something they will regret. 34 / 37 / 40 / 43 mil per year over the following 4 seasons after this one. They are going to be stuck in mediocrity



That contract was just gross, I don't know why they wouldn't shop him around to see who was willing to do a S&T. They don't have a single young player that can grow with Donovan, and they're going to be in the playoffs the next few years while aging and getting poor picks.


Because they wouldn't be getting anything close to a value Gobert has on their team. Sure, even if they got some picks and young guys. Team gets significantly worse, while Mitchell is already on a max deal and ready to win.

There just isn't time to wait for maybe someone they got in that trade pans out and becomes 80% of Gobert, if they are lucky.

If they let Gobert go, their teams turns into garbage. They can't sign anyone because its Utah and no one wants to go there. So either Mitchell gets fed up of being on a bad team and ask for a trade in a year or two, or plays out his contract and leaves in FA, so Utah get left with nothing.

Now at least they have 3-4 years of having a good team. And you never know what can happen. Someone drastically improves. Or you make a trade ala Raptors for a superstar and suddenly you are a contender.
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Post#35 » by god shammgod » Wed Jan 6, 2021 5:22 am

ChaosHamster wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HEZI wrote:
That Gobert contract is going to be something they will regret. 34 / 37 / 40 / 43 mil per year over the following 4 seasons after this one. They are going to be stuck in mediocrity



That contract was just gross, I don't know why they wouldn't shop him around to see who was willing to do a S&T. They don't have a single young player that can grow with Donovan, and they're going to be in the playoffs the next few years while aging and getting poor picks.


Because they wouldn't be getting anything close to a value Gobert has on their team. Sure, even if they got some picks and young guys. Team gets significantly worse, while Mitchell is already on a max deal and ready to win.

There just isn't time to wait for maybe someone they got in that trade pans out and becomes 80% of Gobert, if they are lucky.

If they let Gobert go, their teams turns into garbage. They can't sign anyone because its Utah and no one wants to go there. So either Mitchell gets fed up of being on a bad team and ask for a trade in a year or two, or plays out his contract and leaves in FA, so Utah get left with nothing.

Now at least they have 3-4 years of having a good team. And you never know what can happen. Someone drastically improves. Or you make a trade ala Raptors for a superstar and suddenly you are a contender.


yeah, it's a sad reality for a lot of small market teams. it's a big overpay but if they trade gobert or let him go, they don't have many avenues to improve.
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#36 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jan 6, 2021 5:31 am

ChaosHamster wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HEZI wrote:
That Gobert contract is going to be something they will regret. 34 / 37 / 40 / 43 mil per year over the following 4 seasons after this one. They are going to be stuck in mediocrity



That contract was just gross, I don't know why they wouldn't shop him around to see who was willing to do a S&T. They don't have a single young player that can grow with Donovan, and they're going to be in the playoffs the next few years while aging and getting poor picks.


Because they wouldn't be getting anything close to a value Gobert has on their team. Sure, even if they got some picks and young guys. Team gets significantly worse, while Mitchell is already on a max deal and ready to win.

There just isn't time to wait for maybe someone they got in that trade pans out and becomes 80% of Gobert, if they are lucky.

If they let Gobert go, their teams turns into garbage. They can't sign anyone because its Utah and no one wants to go there. So either Mitchell gets fed up of being on a bad team and ask for a trade in a year or two, or plays out his contract and leaves in FA, so Utah get left with nothing.

Now at least they have 3-4 years of having a good team. And you never know what can happen. Someone drastically improves. Or you make a trade ala Raptors for a superstar and suddenly you are a contender.


Letting Gobert go wouldn't have been about getting similar value, it would be about preventing yourself from locking into a player that simply isn't worth the money.

Their team is going to be garbage regardless, their best perimeter players are all in their 30s, the timelines of these players do not match. They have no young players outside of Mitchell, seriously just look at their roster. The only way out of this for them is missing the playoffs this year, and getting a top 10 pick that can incorporate into their team. It's so bad they may even have to bring Conley back in free agency because they're already capped out.

At the end of those 3-4 years, Mitchell will be 26-27, Gobert will be 31-32 and still have another year or two left on that dreadful deal. We know how this movie is going to end, it's going to be playoff failures where Mitchell has to shoulder entirely too much of the burden on offense, as Gobert ages and loses a step they will start to lose around a time when Mitchell will have a year or two left on his deal.
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Post#37 » by rajajackal » Wed Jan 6, 2021 5:35 am

i think the jazz have invested in gobert as the player they'd keep if there were ever issues with mitchell. mitchell obviously gets you a solid haul, for which having a DPOY makes it easier to pivot
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Post#38 » by Guano » Wed Jan 6, 2021 5:51 am

Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
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Post#39 » by xNewYorkMadex » Wed Jan 6, 2021 6:00 am

Blazers nearly up by 20 in the 1st qtr, give up 66 puts in the 2nd half and lose against Chicago. Oof.
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Post#40 » by DowNY » Wed Jan 6, 2021 6:04 am

LaVine a problem. We won’t be able to trade for him unless the Bulls suck again. Smh

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