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metafisical wrote:Seriously, if we get a top 5 pick, Masai better not select some no-name, dumb-as-rocks Caboclo-clone project that is 5 years away from contributing anything. I don't mind him experimenting with the 29th pick, but not a lottery pick.
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:Thinking about it, assuming lowry is gone next year, which hopefully masai makes the trade ASAP instead of losing ANOTHER high-level caliber player for nothing, then we draft sugg or Cade, is there really a difference in our roster? Essentially we r losing lowry and adding either Cade or Suggs. Unless lowry runs it back for a year with the addition of a 5 like mobley. All depends on trades I guess, and next years off season acquisitions
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:metafisical wrote:Seriously, if we get a top 5 pick, Masai better not select some no-name, dumb-as-rocks Caboclo-clone project that is 5 years away from contributing anything. I don't mind him experimenting with the 29th pick, but not a lottery pick.
There is no way on gods green earth that masai doesn’t pick one of the main 5 that’s been mentioned a lot. All of us on this board would lose our sht if he did
Mr. Perfect wrote:What draft year is Emoni Bates classified for? I'm hearing he's the next generational talent. Maybe we should do a 2 year tank.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
Mark_83 wrote:I'm torn about who I want to pick. There's a chance for a quick retool and back to the playoffs if we play our hand right. Top pick, plus cap space, plus another pick from Lowry trade hopefully.
Suggs is tentatively my top choice right now. He's the most polished, well-rounded talent in the draft. If we get him I think we're a playoff team next year before we even add a free agent with our max slot.
He can do it all at a high level. He's basically Brandon Roy minus an inch or two. Question is do you play him as a 1 or 2? He'd have elite size at PG and a physical advantage, but only average size at SG and have to rely on quickness and moxie.
If we play him at PG, do we move Fred for someone at a position of need. I think he definitely has value for a team in need of a starting PG and could get us a decent piece.
Or we could easily play both together like Lowry and Fred, but again size is not ideal.
Mark_83 wrote:I'm torn about who I want to pick. There's a chance for a quick retool and back to the playoffs if we play our hand right. Top pick, plus cap space, plus another pick from Lowry trade hopefully.
Suggs is tentatively my top choice right now. He's the most polished, well-rounded talent in the draft. If we get him I think we're a playoff team next year before we even add a free agent with our max slot.
He can do it all at a high level. He's basically Brandon Roy minus an inch or two. Question is do you play him as a 1 or 2? He'd have elite size at PG and a physical advantage, but only average size at SG and have to rely on quickness and moxie.
If we play him at PG, do we move Fred for someone at a position of need. I think he definitely has value for a team in need of a starting PG and could get us a decent piece.
Or we could easily play both together like Lowry and Fred, but again size is not ideal.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Mark_83 wrote:I'm torn about who I want to pick. There's a chance for a quick retool and back to the playoffs if we play our hand right. Top pick, plus cap space, plus another pick from Lowry trade hopefully.
Suggs is tentatively my top choice right now. He's the most polished, well-rounded talent in the draft. If we get him I think we're a playoff team next year before we even add a free agent with our max slot.
He can do it all at a high level. He's basically Brandon Roy minus an inch or two. Question is do you play him as a 1 or 2? He'd have elite size at PG and a physical advantage, but only average size at SG and have to rely on quickness and moxie.
If we play him at PG, do we move Fred for someone at a position of need. I think he definitely has value for a team in need of a starting PG and could get us a decent piece.
Or we could easily play both together like Lowry and Fred, but again size is not ideal.
if Lowry is traded, and Suggs is drafted by the Raps - he will fit in perfectly anyways. Its positionless basketball. over the next 2-3 years, it will be evident who is better with the ball in their hands. FVV is a pretty amazing standstill knockdown jump shooter so I rather keep him in the "SG" spot. defensive wise, FVV takes opposing PG and Suggs defends the opposing SG.
Mark_83 wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Mark_83 wrote:I'm torn about who I want to pick. There's a chance for a quick retool and back to the playoffs if we play our hand right. Top pick, plus cap space, plus another pick from Lowry trade hopefully.
Suggs is tentatively my top choice right now. He's the most polished, well-rounded talent in the draft. If we get him I think we're a playoff team next year before we even add a free agent with our max slot.
He can do it all at a high level. He's basically Brandon Roy minus an inch or two. Question is do you play him as a 1 or 2? He'd have elite size at PG and a physical advantage, but only average size at SG and have to rely on quickness and moxie.
If we play him at PG, do we move Fred for someone at a position of need. I think he definitely has value for a team in need of a starting PG and could get us a decent piece.
Or we could easily play both together like Lowry and Fred, but again size is not ideal.
if Lowry is traded, and Suggs is drafted by the Raps - he will fit in perfectly anyways. Its positionless basketball. over the next 2-3 years, it will be evident who is better with the ball in their hands. FVV is a pretty amazing standstill knockdown jump shooter so I rather keep him in the "SG" spot. defensive wise, FVV takes opposing PG and Suggs defends the opposing SG.
I do think they'd work great on offense. My concern was with Suggs guarding bigger SG.
Come to think of it though, there aren't that many "wing-sized" shooting guards any more like Carter, Kobe, McGrady (guys who are 6'6+). Most are in the Beal, Mitchell, McCollum, Harris, mold who are all between 6'3 and 6'4. The closest guys left to the old model are Brown and Derozan.
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:Thinking about it, assuming lowry is gone next year, which hopefully masai makes the trade ASAP instead of losing ANOTHER high-level caliber player for nothing, then we draft sugg or Cade, is there really a difference in our roster? Essentially we r losing lowry and adding either Cade or Suggs. Unless lowry runs it back for a year with the addition of a 5 like mobley. All depends on trades I guess, and next years off season acquisitions
Psubs wrote:Mark_83 wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
if Lowry is traded, and Suggs is drafted by the Raps - he will fit in perfectly anyways. Its positionless basketball. over the next 2-3 years, it will be evident who is better with the ball in their hands. FVV is a pretty amazing standstill knockdown jump shooter so I rather keep him in the "SG" spot. defensive wise, FVV takes opposing PG and Suggs defends the opposing SG.
I do think they'd work great on offense. My concern was with Suggs guarding bigger SG.
Come to think of it though, there aren't that many "wing-sized" shooting guards any more like Carter, Kobe, McGrady (guys who are 6'6+). Most are in the Beal, Mitchell, McCollum, Harris, mold who are all between 6'3 and 6'4. The closest guys left to the old model are Brown and Derozan.
Jalen Green, Ziaire Williams, Moses Moody, Brandon Boston, James Bouknight (6'5 but is good).
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
720 wrote:Detroit next level in this tank game.
