Wizardspride wrote:?s=19
Damn. Heat fans got owned. And good lord, Brandon has WMDs attached to his torso.
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Wizardspride wrote:?s=19
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
nate33 wrote:
Beal has typically been a slow starter - playing lousy in November and December until hitting his stride in January/February. This could make things worse.
ILOVEIT wrote:Warrior fan...I come in peace.
Serious question: What kind of defensive player is Beal?
nate33 wrote:ILOVEIT wrote:Warrior fan...I come in peace.
Serious question: What kind of defensive player is Beal?
He is fine. Keyboard warriors look at some of the advanced stats and conclude that Beal is awful defensively, but that's because Beal has to expend so much energy on offense, and he has terrible defensive personnel around him.
Beal isn't a stopper or anything, but he's a totally adequate defender. He is not going to be played off the floor in a playoff game and teams won't intentionally scheme against him in an effort to force him to switch. He holds his own. His biggest failing is that he's a bit lazy at fighting around screens.
Frichuela wrote:nate33 wrote:ILOVEIT wrote:Warrior fan...I come in peace.
Serious question: What kind of defensive player is Beal?
He is fine. Keyboard warriors look at some of the advanced stats and conclude that Beal is awful defensively, but that's because Beal has to expend so much energy on offense, and he has terrible defensive personnel around him.
Beal isn't a stopper or anything, but he's a totally adequate defender. He is not going to be played off the floor in a playoff game and teams won't intentionally scheme against him in an effort to force him to switch. He holds his own. His biggest failing is that he's a bit lazy at fighting around screens.
Agreed. And don't forget that when it matters (playoffs) Beal has shown he can be a decent defender in the past.
Shanghai Kid wrote:I can put him over prime Gilbert...once he starts closing games/doing better in the clutch.
I think Gilbert lead the league or was 2nd in 4th quarter points for two seasons, and I think he also lead the league in game-winning shots from 2005-2007. Beal is not an elite closer, but he could easily become that.
But Beal is clearly entering that elite offensive tier where he has no real offensive weakness and can drop 50 on any night. His improvement year to year is fantastic.
nate33 wrote:Current Beal > peak Arenas > peak Wall
Though that's not really fair because current Beal has only done it for 10 games. If he keeps this up, he is clearly the best. 35/5/5 on .600 TS% with respectable defense is way better than anything Arenas put up. It's way better than anything any former Wizard has ever put up.
If we ignore this season, then I'd say:
peak Arenas > 2020 Beal > peak Wall
nate33 wrote:Current Beal > peak Arenas > peak Wall
Though that's not really fair because current Beal has only done it for 10 games. If he keeps this up, he is clearly the best. 35/5/5 on .600 TS% with respectable defense is way better than anything Arenas put up. It's way better than anything any former Wizard has ever put up.
If we ignore this season, then I'd say:
peak Arenas > 2020 Beal > peak Wall
Shanghai Kid wrote:nate33 wrote:Current Beal > peak Arenas > peak Wall
Though that's not really fair because current Beal has only done it for 10 games. If he keeps this up, he is clearly the best. 35/5/5 on .600 TS% with respectable defense is way better than anything Arenas put up. It's way better than anything any former Wizard has ever put up.
If we ignore this season, then I'd say:
peak Arenas > 2020 Beal > peak Wall
Agreed, I can't argue with the numbers. Beal is performing at a level I never expected. I'm interested to see if he can keep it up and how much of is it a product of being on a terrible team.
doclinkin wrote:Arenas meant more to the franchise than Beal currently does. And to the game itself. His ascension prefigured the Stef Curry types of today and necessitated the inclusion of Combo guards in team construction where before that they were labeled as 'tweeners' and were generally used as 6th men for instant offense. Peak Arenas' startling efficiency helped jumpstart the stat driven era, where the Daryl Morey's of the nerdiverse saw Gil hitting outside jumpers, interior shots, and freethrows and realized that was all that any team should be trying for. Gil + Antawn was the future whether we knew it or not. Beal has benefitted from this emphasis and has been very smart in building his game to take advantage of it, but Arenas woke a moribund franchise from the post MJ depression and helped ignite the league, making it watchable again. He was also the first star to take full advantage of the internet.
nate33 wrote:Shanghai Kid wrote:nate33 wrote:Current Beal > peak Arenas > peak Wall
Though that's not really fair because current Beal has only done it for 10 games. If he keeps this up, he is clearly the best. 35/5/5 on .600 TS% with respectable defense is way better than anything Arenas put up. It's way better than anything any former Wizard has ever put up.
If we ignore this season, then I'd say:
peak Arenas > 2020 Beal > peak Wall
Agreed, I can't argue with the numbers. Beal is performing at a level I never expected. I'm interested to see if he can keep it up and how much of is it a product of being on a terrible team.
The team actually isn't that terrible. Their net rating is now just -0.8. If you take away all the incomprehensible Ish + Westbrook minutes, they'd be positive.