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cgf wrote:rajajackal wrote:https://tradenba.com/trades/-YAniAwVY
NYK get: tyrese haliburton, harrison barnes
SAC get: julius randle, rj barrett, reggie bullock
The new lotto odds make going all out with the tank not really worth it.
8516knicks wrote:cgf wrote:rajajackal wrote:https://tradenba.com/trades/-YAniAwVY
NYK get: tyrese haliburton, harrison barnes
SAC get: julius randle, rj barrett, reggie bullock
The new lotto odds make going all out with the tank not really worth it.
We only pick good in 2nd round.
WargamesX wrote:8516knicks wrote:cgf wrote:
The new lotto odds make going all out with the tank not really worth it.
We only pick good in 2nd round.
I would love that trade..... if we could keep RJ.....
WargamesX wrote:8516knicks wrote:cgf wrote:
The new lotto odds make going all out with the tank not really worth it.
We only pick good in 2nd round.
I would love that trade..... if we could keep RJ.....
cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
Capn'O wrote:We're not the kid cousin. We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
thebuzzardman wrote:dakomish23 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
I don't think the team has the stomach to wait and see what happens with RJ if they can get someone now who they know can do it in this league. We already passed up on Hayward when he would've been a perfect fit even if it is an overpay. We're going to have to overpay at some point anyhow. That's just how professional sports works these days. I'm not saying Lavine is necessarily "the guy" (I'm not crazy about him) but think we need to be thinking along these lines.
Lavine is a part of my Knicks won’t wait plan. I don’t think they’ll need to part with RJB for it.
I know you’re sick of the crappy product but some
Of these shortsighted moves won’t leave us much better. Smarter move to add to the kids who are keepers. We have cap space and some extra assets to make it happen
Frank + Mav's 2023 for Lavine
HarthorneWingo wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:dakomish23 wrote:
Lavine is a part of my Knicks won’t wait plan. I don’t think they’ll need to part with RJB for it.
I know you’re sick of the crappy product but some
Of these shortsighted moves won’t leave us much better. Smarter move to add to the kids who are keepers. We have cap space and some extra assets to make it happen
Frank + Mav's 2023 for Lavine
How fcking dare you trigger me.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
HarthorneWingo wrote:?s=20
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
dakomish23 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:?s=20
I’d still take him.
So would everyone else. They’ll just only admit it after he’s in a NYK jersey.
Amazing talent.
I just wouldn’t make him the centerpiece
cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
Capn'O wrote:We're not the kid cousin. We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
cgf wrote:Sell vets at the deadline for picks if possible, otherwise keep it small. Stuff like Ntilikina for another team's reclamation project (Nassir Little please), or using the Mavs pick to secure a pending RFA like Lonzo if the Pels decide to move on.
Other than that just focus on developing what we have in house, collect a nice pick in this talented class + whatever later picks we'll have, move around the draft as needed, and try to snag THT (or GTJ) in RFA. If all goes well, see how competitive we look next season with something like:
Starters:
Mitch Robinson
Julius Randle
RJ Barrett
Talen Horton-Tucker (or Gary Trent Jr.)
Lonzo Ball
Bench:
Obi Toppin
Kevin Knox II*
Ziaire Williams
Alec Burks
Imannuel Quickley
Nassir Little* (or Frank Ntilikina)
Jared Butler
Scottie Lewis
Taj Gibson (or some other assistant coach/old-big)
cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
Capn'O wrote:We're not the kid cousin. We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
knickstape4ever wrote:I thought the Blazers would be a good trade partner for Randle, but now I saw they traded their 1st (lotto protected) to HOU
Kings make sense to me. They need to start winning soon before Fox wants out (even tho he did sign an extension). the Bagley situation seems like it's best for them to move on, and they actually do have talent so they should be trying to win: Fox, Hali, Hield, Barnes are solid. surprised they let Bogdan walk tho.
Why the Knicks do it:
Randle has been great, but what is his future here after drafting Obi? I wouldn't trade him for pennies, but if they can get good value they should explore it b/c Obi was drafted to be the PF of the future, otherwise they would've gone PG. + Randle's fit w/ RJ/Mitch is questionable b/c they lack spacing.
This deal would net a couple 1sts, and Nesmith (need shooting) which IMO is good value, and the Kings 1st very well could be a lottery pick. the young talent has been so inconsistent that they should continue to stockpile picks b/c more picks=better chance of hitting on 1 of them
Why the Kings do it:
The Bagley situation isn't good: 1) he's underperformed his draft status (made worse by Luka) 2) there's drama surrounding him and his dad's twitter trade request (which Fox's dad was in favor of, kinda goes to show there are issues)
Randle would give them an upgrade and a shot to compete for a playoff spot (since the NBA thinks a play-in tournament is a good idea) and they'd have a solid young core. They already have a star in Fox, adding late lottery picks isn't gonna help them win sooner, but Randle will and Randle is likely better than whoever they would take w/ that 1st/helps them win now
Why the Celtics do it:
buying low on #2 overall pick from just 3 years ago. they could use a big and Nesmith + a pick that's likely a very late 1st is worth it IMO. maybe a change of scenery helps Bagley reach his potential, and the Celtics are as good a team as any for him to develop on
WargamesX wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:I thought the Blazers would be a good trade partner for Randle, but now I saw they traded their 1st (lotto protected) to HOU
Kings make sense to me. They need to start winning soon before Fox wants out (even tho he did sign an extension). the Bagley situation seems like it's best for them to move on, and they actually do have talent so they should be trying to win: Fox, Hali, Hield, Barnes are solid. surprised they let Bogdan walk tho.
Why the Knicks do it:
Randle has been great, but what is his future here after drafting Obi? I wouldn't trade him for pennies, but if they can get good value they should explore it b/c Obi was drafted to be the PF of the future, otherwise they would've gone PG. + Randle's fit w/ RJ/Mitch is questionable b/c they lack spacing.
This deal would net a couple 1sts, and Nesmith (need shooting) which IMO is good value, and the Kings 1st very well could be a lottery pick. the young talent has been so inconsistent that they should continue to stockpile picks b/c more picks=better chance of hitting on 1 of them
Why the Kings do it:
The Bagley situation isn't good: 1) he's underperformed his draft status (made worse by Luka) 2) there's drama surrounding him and his dad's twitter trade request (which Fox's dad was in favor of, kinda goes to show there are issues)
Randle would give them an upgrade and a shot to compete for a playoff spot (since the NBA thinks a play-in tournament is a good idea) and they'd have a solid young core. They already have a star in Fox, adding late lottery picks isn't gonna help them win sooner, but Randle will and Randle is likely better than whoever they would take w/ that 1st/helps them win now
Why the Celtics do it:
buying low on #2 overall pick from just 3 years ago. they could use a big and Nesmith + a pick that's likely a very late 1st is worth it IMO. maybe a change of scenery helps Bagley reach his potential, and the Celtics are as good a team as any for him to develop on
I legitimately love this trade idea.
