Victor Oladipo Still Prefers To End Up With Heat

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Re: Victor Oladipo Still Prefers To End Up With Heat 

Post#21 » by Killboard » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:19 am

Measured out a solid 6-6 ¼ without shoes and 215 pounds, giving him excellent size for a NBA small forward, albeit just an average wingspan (6-8) and standing reach (8-5).


http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Portsmouth-Invitational-Measurements-and-Athletic-Testing-Results-3673/

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spree2kawhi wrote:Butler is already undersized and out of position at SF. He's more 6'6 and a natural SG.


Per the NBA, he's 6'7" without shoes.
He isn't undersized at SF, he has above average size there. SF has been shrinking every year as teams go to 3-guard alignments (the most extreme example: 6'1" Langston Galloway is legitimately a SF this season).

Starting SF Height / Weight
Michael Porter Jr (DEN): 6'10" / 218 (his backup is last year's starter Will Barton: 6'5" / 181)
LeBron James (LAL): 6'9" / 250
Kyle Anderson (MEM): 6'9" / 230
Deni Advija (WAS): 6'9" / 210
Harrison Barnes (SAC): 6'8" / 225
T.J. Warren (IND): 6'8" / 220
Bojan Bogdanovic (UTA): 6'8" / 216
Patrick Williams (CHI): 6'8" / 215
Jayson Tatum (BOS): 6'8" / 210 - Started at PF last year
Jerami Grant (DEN): 6'8" / 210 - Likewise played PF most of career
OG Anunoby (TOR): 6'7" / 232
Jimmy Butler (MIA): 6'7" / 230
Kawhi Leonard (LAC): 6'7" / 230
Gordon Hayward (BOS): 6'7" / 225
DeAndre Hunter (ATL): 6'7" / 225
Khris Middleton (MIL): 6'7" / 222
Dorian Finney-Smith (DAL): 6'7" / 220
Kelly Oubre (GSW): 6'7" / 203
Brandon Ingram (NOP): 6'7" / 190
Isaac Okoro (CLE): 6'6" / 225
Joe Harris (BKN): 6'6" / 220
Danuel House (HOU): 6'6" / 220
Derrick Jones Jr (POR): 6'6" / 210 - he literally played PF w/ the Heat last year!!!
James Ennis (ORL): 6'6" / 215
Danny Green (PHI): 6'6" / 215
R.J. Barrett (NYK): 6'6" / 214
Mikal Bridges (PHX): 6'6" / 209 (his backup is Langston Galloway: 6'1" / 200. Payne/Carter/Galloway w/ 6'8" /210 Cam Johnson at 4)
Keldon Johnson (SAS): 6'5" / 220
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (OKC); 6'5" / 180
Josh Okogie (MIN): 6'4" / 213 (he's a PF in the closing lineup)

Butler is 12th in Height and 3rd in Weight.
23 of 30 starters fall in the 6'6" to 6'8" range.

TLDR he isn't an undersized SF.

I don't know how you guys got there, but with Oladipo, he'd be the three, other than that he's best off as a SG imo.


Robinson (6'7" / 215) would be the three. You would rather Oladipo be point of attack on the perimeter for obvious reasons.
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Re: Victor Oladipo Still Prefers To End Up With Heat 

Post#22 » by Temuhjan » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:44 am

Who knows, maybe the Rox is just trying to tank this season and Dipo and Wall is just there for vanity reasons and sell tickets
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Re: Victor Oladipo Still Prefers To End Up With Heat 

Post#23 » by Rashidi » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:04 am

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Measured out a solid 6-6 ¼ without shoes and 215 pounds, giving him excellent size for a NBA small forward, albeit just an average wingspan (6-8) and standing reach (8-5).

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Portsmouth-Invitational-Measurements-and-Athletic-Testing-Results-3673/



The NBA re-measured everyone last off-season. If he grew a quarter inch to 6'6" 1/2 that rounds to 6'7". Haggling over a quarter inch doesn't change his size in relation to other SFs and PFs who likewise were held to the same standard.

It's pretty clear the majority of SF/PF are 6'6" to 6'8". It's his strength that matters more than his length. There are demonstrably smaller & weaker players at the 4 right now so I don't really get what you're trying to argue here. He's bigger than Iggy and Jones, and effectively the same size/strength as Crowder.
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Re: Victor Oladipo Still Prefers To End Up With Heat 

Post#24 » by Killboard » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:34 pm

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Killboard wrote:
Measured out a solid 6-6 ¼ without shoes and 215 pounds, giving him excellent size for a NBA small forward, albeit just an average wingspan (6-8) and standing reach (8-5).

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Portsmouth-Invitational-Measurements-and-Athletic-Testing-Results-3673/



The NBA re-measured everyone last off-season. If he grew a quarter inch to 6'6" 1/2 that rounds to 6'7". Haggling over a quarter inch doesn't change his size in relation to other SFs and PFs who likewise were held to the same standard.

It's pretty clear the majority of SF/PF are 6'6" to 6'8". It's his strength that matters more than his length. There are demonstrably smaller & weaker players at the 4 right now so I don't really get what you're trying to argue here. He's bigger than Iggy and Jones, and effectively the same size/strength as Crowder.


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Re: Victor Oladipo Still Prefers To End Up With Heat 

Post#25 » by bluerap23 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:55 pm

Not sure if they traded for him because they want to keep him or because he is expiring, but if it is the latter, sucks to be Houston.
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Post#26 » by nedleeds » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:00 pm

I prefer to end up in a magical castle with pet dragons. But I didn't sign a uniform player contract with the NBA which states that I can be traded wherever management decides.
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Post#27 » by jason bourne » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:21 pm

King4Day wrote:I'm still baffled why they didn't keep LaVert. Good piece to stay competitive with on a reasonable contract.


If I was a Rockets fan, then I'd be distraught. Caris LeVert is gonna be a star. Why did they give up such potential for a non-star (anymore) who is consistently injured and rapidly fading into obscurity. I wouldn't want him on the Heat.
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Re: Victor Oladipo Still Prefers To End Up With Heat 

Post#28 » by King4Day » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:24 pm

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King4Day wrote:I'm still baffled why they didn't keep LaVert. Good piece to stay competitive with on a reasonable contract.


If I was a Rockets fan, then I'd be distraught. Caris LeVert is gonna be a star. Why did they give up such potential for a non-star (anymore) who is consistently injured and rapidly fading into obscurity. I wouldn't want him on the Heat.


I still think Oladipo is a solid player and if he immediately extended with Houston, then I don't have a problem with it. But with all that talk that he wants to go to Miami, it's just a big risk. I really just don't understand it.

Part of me wonders, if the Nets knew they could get Oladipo for LaVert, would they have considered that, and then try moving their picks and Allen for better fits/depth.
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Post#29 » by Rashidi » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:39 am

Killboard wrote:Link?


This was the biggest story of last season's training camp, but sure.

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Re: Victor Oladipo Still Prefers To End Up With Heat 

Post#30 » by Rashidi » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:52 am

jason bourne wrote:
King4Day wrote:I'm still baffled why they didn't keep LaVert. Good piece to stay competitive with on a reasonable contract.


If I was a Rockets fan, then I'd be distraught. Caris LeVert is gonna be a star. Why did they give up such potential for a non-star (anymore) who is consistently injured and rapidly fading into obscurity. I wouldn't want him on the Heat.


LeVert is perceived to be a rising player but he's pretty much at his ceiling.
He's 26, only two years younger than Oladipo (who by comparison, had just made his 2nd All-Star team at that age).

LeVert is also even more injury prone than Oladipo. He's played in only 225 of 330 possible career games (68%), and missed half of his last two college seasons.

Oladipo has played in 430 of 573 (75%). Beyond his quad injury, he's otherwise been durable.

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