Stephen Curry has been totally exposed
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I figure 1/4 quarter of everything on RealGM is about LeBron even if LeBron's name doesn't get mentioned. I don't mind people not liking Steph and the Warriors because they damaged the LeBron chase of Jordan's GOAT status. If Harden, Durant, Kyrie works out and stops LeBron from getting a championship that might refocous the hate of the LeBron fans in another dirrection.
It is weird that LeBron fans trash Curry while also needing Curry to be great to help the LeBron legacy.
Mark Jackson had Curry racking up assists while getting a thousand on the ball picks to help with Curry's footspeed problem. Mark Jackson created the system that was good for Mark Jackson the player when Mark Jackson played.
Kerr then changed the system to the system that sould have been best for a better version of Kerr the player when Kerr played. But Kerr's systems needed Draymond and Iguodalla to be good handling the ball and needed other players to hit their open shots.
Mark Jackson's system worked well but needed the team to know how to set picks. Kerr's system worked better.
Klay was important.
Now the current Warriors need to hit their open shots. They are not hitting their open shots well enough to make defenses not severely overplay Steph. The current Warriors also don't know how to set picks in Mark Jackson's system. Wiseman can shoot but he does not understand pick setting like Bogut and David Lee did.
I think playing Wiggins and Oubre at the same time is not good becaues neither one of them is truly adequate as a guard. Draymond can still pass but to who? Wiggins and Oubre can be the guy that cuts to the hoop but their outside shooting has not been good enough to unpack the paint help defense. Wiggins is doing OK and Oubre will probably get better because he has been better in the past but playing a better shooter at off guard would help the offense.
It is weird that LeBron fans trash Curry while also needing Curry to be great to help the LeBron legacy.
Mark Jackson had Curry racking up assists while getting a thousand on the ball picks to help with Curry's footspeed problem. Mark Jackson created the system that was good for Mark Jackson the player when Mark Jackson played.
Kerr then changed the system to the system that sould have been best for a better version of Kerr the player when Kerr played. But Kerr's systems needed Draymond and Iguodalla to be good handling the ball and needed other players to hit their open shots.
Mark Jackson's system worked well but needed the team to know how to set picks. Kerr's system worked better.
Klay was important.
Now the current Warriors need to hit their open shots. They are not hitting their open shots well enough to make defenses not severely overplay Steph. The current Warriors also don't know how to set picks in Mark Jackson's system. Wiseman can shoot but he does not understand pick setting like Bogut and David Lee did.
I think playing Wiggins and Oubre at the same time is not good becaues neither one of them is truly adequate as a guard. Draymond can still pass but to who? Wiggins and Oubre can be the guy that cuts to the hoop but their outside shooting has not been good enough to unpack the paint help defense. Wiggins is doing OK and Oubre will probably get better because he has been better in the past but playing a better shooter at off guard would help the offense.
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League avg 0.566 TS
GSW starters
Curry 0.61
Wiseman 0.524
Green 0.405
Oubre 0.432
Wiggins 0.529
Starters get plenty open looks, but they miss badly.
Open or wide open
Oubre FREQ 0.56 FG 0.25
Wiggins FREQ 0.51 FG 0.45
Green FREQ 0.59 FG 0.21
Wiseman FREQ 0.37 FG 0.49
Curry with starters ORTG 93.5pts
Curry with bench ORTG 124.1pts
Curry with Lee w/o Wiggins/Oubre ORTG 142pts
Curry with Mulder w/o Wiggins?Oubre ORTG 131pts
Curry w/o Green (only JAN) ORTG 124.3pts
These numbers tell you everything how badly Green/Ourbe/Wiggins hurt GSW offense
GSW starters
Curry 0.61
Wiseman 0.524
Green 0.405
Oubre 0.432
Wiggins 0.529
Starters get plenty open looks, but they miss badly.
Open or wide open
Oubre FREQ 0.56 FG 0.25
Wiggins FREQ 0.51 FG 0.45
Green FREQ 0.59 FG 0.21
Wiseman FREQ 0.37 FG 0.49
Curry with starters ORTG 93.5pts
Curry with bench ORTG 124.1pts
Curry with Lee w/o Wiggins/Oubre ORTG 142pts
Curry with Mulder w/o Wiggins?Oubre ORTG 131pts
Curry w/o Green (only JAN) ORTG 124.3pts
These numbers tell you everything how badly Green/Ourbe/Wiggins hurt GSW offense
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SpreeS wrote:League avg 0.566 TS
GSW starters
Curry 0.61
Wiseman 0.524
Green 0.405
Oubre 0.432
Wiggins 0.529
Starters get plenty open looks, but they miss badly.
Open or wide open
Oubre FREQ 0.56 FG 0.25
Wiggins FREQ 0.51 FG 0.45
Green FREQ 0.59 FG 0.21
Wiseman FREQ 0.37 FG 0.49
Curry with starters ORTG 93.5pts
Curry with bench ORTG 124.1pts
Curry with Lee w/o Wiggins/Oubre ORTG 142pts
Curry with Mulder w/o Wiggins?Oubre ORTG 131pts
Curry w/o Green (only JAN) ORTG 124.3pts
These numbers tell you everything how badly Green/Ourbe/Wiggins hurt GSW offense
8 for 22 shooting and 3 for 12 from three. Also was a net negative too. His teammates definitely saved him this game.
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Well well well, how the turntables
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
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Joerezz7 wrote:SpreeS wrote:League avg 0.566 TS
GSW starters
Curry 0.61
Wiseman 0.524
Green 0.405
Oubre 0.432
Wiggins 0.529
Starters get plenty open looks, but they miss badly.
Open or wide open
Oubre FREQ 0.56 FG 0.25
Wiggins FREQ 0.51 FG 0.45
Green FREQ 0.59 FG 0.21
Wiseman FREQ 0.37 FG 0.49
Curry with starters ORTG 93.5pts
Curry with bench ORTG 124.1pts
Curry with Lee w/o Wiggins/Oubre ORTG 142pts
Curry with Mulder w/o Wiggins?Oubre ORTG 131pts
Curry w/o Green (only JAN) ORTG 124.3pts
These numbers tell you everything how badly Green/Ourbe/Wiggins hurt GSW offense
8 for 22 shooting and 3 for 12 from three. Also was a net negative too. His teammates definitely saved him this game.
Bruh, are you blind? Did you not see Steph double and triple teamed the entire game? Please god tell me you are trolling. Steph literally has "The Curry Rules" book being written this season, every single team defends him like they do no other player in the league. Hes seeing the toughest defense in the NBA to stop him, and still has carried this team to a 7-6 record and averaging over 28 points a game.
Stop the trolling.
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I think Steph is this decade’s Dirk. I think many of the fans scoff at him for some reason, but when he’s gone you’ll start to see there general fans start favoring him more and looking at him at a more positive view.
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It's just sad to see so many people unable (or unwilling) to comprehend what they're watching because they hate the Warriors so much. It must be exhausting to pore over every box score looking for reasons to crap on Steph when anyone with half a brain knows will be considered an all-time great PG when all is said and done.
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MindState wrote:Joerezz7 wrote:SpreeS wrote:League avg 0.566 TS
GSW starters
Curry 0.61
Wiseman 0.524
Green 0.405
Oubre 0.432
Wiggins 0.529
Starters get plenty open looks, but they miss badly.
Open or wide open
Oubre FREQ 0.56 FG 0.25
Wiggins FREQ 0.51 FG 0.45
Green FREQ 0.59 FG 0.21
Wiseman FREQ 0.37 FG 0.49
Curry with starters ORTG 93.5pts
Curry with bench ORTG 124.1pts
Curry with Lee w/o Wiggins/Oubre ORTG 142pts
Curry with Mulder w/o Wiggins?Oubre ORTG 131pts
Curry w/o Green (only JAN) ORTG 124.3pts
These numbers tell you everything how badly Green/Ourbe/Wiggins hurt GSW offense
8 for 22 shooting and 3 for 12 from three. Also was a net negative too. His teammates definitely saved him this game.
Bruh, are you blind? Did you not see Steph double and triple teamed the entire game? Please god tell me you are trolling. Steph literally has "The Curry Rules" book being written this season, every single team defends him like they do no other player in the league. Hes seeing the toughest defense in the NBA to stop him, and still has carried this team to a 7-6 record and averaging over 28 points a game.
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Draymond "no offense" green got two wide open drives into the lane in crunch time bc they doubled curry off the pick and roll. And he even travelled in one lol.
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Duke4life831 wrote:I think Steph is this decade’s Dirk. I think many of the fans scoff at him for some reason, but when he’s gone you’ll start to see there general fans start favoring him more and looking at him at a more positive view.
There is a ton of resentment against Curry. People hate him cause they aint him, and teams hate him cause he blocked multiple franchises from every winning a title. Look at the Rockets for example. A few years ago they were contenders, Curry stomped them into the ground 4 years in a row and now Harden left.
Warriors basically ended complete franchises and left dirt and ruins in their wake. Curry was a huge reason why, that is why hes hated.
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SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:I figure 1/4 quarter of everything on RealGM is about LeBron even if LeBron's name doesn't get mentioned. I don't mind people not liking Steph and the Warriors because they damaged the LeBron chase of Jordan's GOAT status. If Harden, Durant, Kyrie works out and stops LeBron from getting a championship that might refocous the hate of the LeBron fans in another dirrection.
It is weird that LeBron fans trash Curry while also needing Curry to be great to help the LeBron legacy.
Quoting for lebron stans.
Follow your leader. Lebron hypes up curry and the warriors because it makes his legacy look better.
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MindState wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:I think Steph is this decade’s Dirk. I think many of the fans scoff at him for some reason, but when he’s gone you’ll start to see there general fans start favoring him more and looking at him at a more positive view.
There is a ton of resentment against Curry. People hate him cause they aint him, and teams hate him cause he blocked multiple franchises from every winning a title. Look at the Rockets for example. A few years ago they were contenders, Curry stomped them into the ground 4 years in a row and now Harden left.
Warriors basically ended complete franchises and left dirt and ruins in their wake. Curry was a huge reason why, that is why hes hated.
That’s my point. There was a ton of hate for Dirk back in the day as well. For ever he was a soft Euro who couldn’t win. But after he has retired it seems like he finally gets the respect he has always deserved.
I think the same will happen for Curry. I think once he retires people will look back fondly on his career in general.
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MindState wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:I think Steph is this decade’s Dirk. I think many of the fans scoff at him for some reason, but when he’s gone you’ll start to see there general fans start favoring him more and looking at him at a more positive view.
There is a ton of resentment against Curry. People hate him cause they aint him, and teams hate him cause he blocked multiple franchises from every winning a title. Look at the Rockets for example. A few years ago they were contenders, Curry stomped them into the ground 4 years in a row and now Harden left.
Warriors basically ended complete franchises and left dirt and ruins in their wake. Curry was a huge reason why, that is why hes hated.
Curry stomped them into the ground, eh?
Yeah, it had nothing to do with KD, Klay, Draymond, and Iggy.
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art_tatum wrote:Draymond "no offense" green got two wide open drives into the lane in crunch time bc they doubled curry off the pick and roll. And he even travelled in one lol.
People complain endlessly about how OP the KD Warriors were, and it's like everyone conveniently forgets that this is the reason why. It's not just that KD is an all-time scorer on his own. When KD was around, the person getting the wide open drives into the lane due to Curry's gravity was Kevin effing Durant, not Draymond. It was obvious what Steph was doing to defenses. Now, it's suddenly opaque because the shots he's getting his teammates are bricking instead of going in, and people gonna act like it wasn't ever Steph's credit in the first place. What a joke.
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No one hated Dirk. Shut up, sheesh.
Yall just spit out stupid crap, lol. I liked Dirk more than LeBron at the time
Yall just spit out stupid crap, lol. I liked Dirk more than LeBron at the time
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SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
It is weird that LeBron fans trash Curry while also needing Curry to be great to help the LeBron legacy.
Not true. We just needed the Warriors to break a regular season win record so that it would help Lebron’s legacy when he beats them in the Finals.
Harry Garris wrote: Curry can turn non playoff teams into title contenders.
Not if the team doesn’t have elite defenders[/quote]
What a pointless statement.Every Finals team had elite role players[/quote]
Rodwilliams wrote:Duh!Thats what I just said. Eat your own words
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Marrrcuss wrote:No one hated Dirk. Shut up, sheesh.
Yall just spit out stupid crap, lol. I liked Dirk more than LeBron at the time
I don't think anyone 'hated' Dirk ever in the "I don't like him because he's a villain" sense, but the point is that he never got the credit he deserved for the player he was until he won that chip. It really turned his whole narrative around. Without that championship, a legion of nephews are probably still talking about how 'soft Euro ball' can't ever win.
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Marrrcuss wrote:No one hated Dirk. Shut up, sheesh.
Yall just spit out stupid crap, lol. I liked Dirk more than LeBron at the time
Dirk received plenty of hate pre 2011. I mean, he was an MVP who lost as a #1 seed in the first round. You can imagine what the trolls were like?
LaLover11 wrote:I bet you $100 Mavs beat the Celtics
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Joerezz7 wrote:SpreeS wrote:League avg 0.566 TS
GSW starters
Curry 0.61
Wiseman 0.524
Green 0.405
Oubre 0.432
Wiggins 0.529
Starters get plenty open looks, but they miss badly.
Open or wide open
Oubre FREQ 0.56 FG 0.25
Wiggins FREQ 0.51 FG 0.45
Green FREQ 0.59 FG 0.21
Wiseman FREQ 0.37 FG 0.49
Curry with starters ORTG 93.5pts
Curry with bench ORTG 124.1pts
Curry with Lee w/o Wiggins/Oubre ORTG 142pts
Curry with Mulder w/o Wiggins?Oubre ORTG 131pts
Curry w/o Green (only JAN) ORTG 124.3pts
These numbers tell you everything how badly Green/Ourbe/Wiggins hurt GSW offense
8 for 22 shooting and 3 for 12 from three. Also was a net negative too. His teammates definitely saved him this game.
It was one game. Spree gave you pretty eye opening stats for the whole season and you bring up one games stats to try disprove him? What kind of logic is that?
LaLover11 wrote:I bet you $100 Mavs beat the Celtics
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3-12 from deep. exposed basically every game.ok goat shooter exposed.
Doncic will be goat. Lauri will be his sidekick.
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Joerezz7 wrote:SpreeS wrote:League avg 0.566 TS
GSW starters
Curry 0.61
Wiseman 0.524
Green 0.405
Oubre 0.432
Wiggins 0.529
Starters get plenty open looks, but they miss badly.
Open or wide open
Oubre FREQ 0.56 FG 0.25
Wiggins FREQ 0.51 FG 0.45
Green FREQ 0.59 FG 0.21
Wiseman FREQ 0.37 FG 0.49
Curry with starters ORTG 93.5pts
Curry with bench ORTG 124.1pts
Curry with Lee w/o Wiggins/Oubre ORTG 142pts
Curry with Mulder w/o Wiggins?Oubre ORTG 131pts
Curry w/o Green (only JAN) ORTG 124.3pts
These numbers tell you everything how badly Green/Ourbe/Wiggins hurt GSW offense
8 for 22 shooting and 3 for 12 from three. Also was a net negative too. His teammates definitely saved him this game.
They won. That is all that matters, particularly to Curry himself.


