2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1

[knickstape4ever]

This is assumption is what I am disagreeing with & why I'm suggesting you watch more of him. He doesn't have the feet/lateral-quickness to play the 3 & defend on the perimeter regularly, either, but he's doing an excellent job around the rim and on the glass...which is why I like him so much as a playmaking 4 & have him above Barnes on my PF rankings despite the slow start.

disagreed. Jalen Johnson has outstanding fluidity. the only weakness I see in his game is shooting. if he were a knockdown shooter, he'd be in the conversation for #1

in terms of defensively, I see no reason why he can't defend both forward positions w/ his size and fluidity. Mike Schmitz in his scouting report said this:

Extremely versatile defender. Can shift anywhere from 1 to 5 in a pinch

Shifting down in a pinch is different from regularly defending on the perimeter though. RoCo can switch down too, but if you ask him to consistently guard talented 3s on the perimeter, he gets burned and doesn't get to make as big of an impact as when he's closer to the hoop, playing passing lanes & helping with his length/intelligence.

It's just the weakest part of JJ's game (outside of his shooting), while the strongest parts of his defensive game are his help defense, weakside rim protection & his defensive rebounding. He'll need to fill out, but he's 6'9" with good length & a wide frame; so it's not like size will be a problem for him & I don't see why you would move him away from what he does best to do what he does worst.

...I mean we would have to, but that's why I think we're an awful fit for him; or Barnes, who like almost as much. If we were moving Obi & Julius, then I'd be back on the JJ bandwagon; like I was before the season started.

I disagree. JJ has great lateral quickness and can guard the perimeter well and he has an NBA ready body as well. looks big and strong

[knickstape4ever]

Jared Butler!

8-13 FG, 6-7 3PT, 6AST

Take this kid w/ the Dallas pick!

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[RHODEY]

Watch on YouTube

[thebuzzardman]

Who looks good at 12 and 24, after the Knicks screw up their draft position and the Mavs make the playoffs?

Any good guards?

[3toheadmelo]

David Duke with another bad game. Maybe we’ll be able to snatch him in the second round. I’ll see myself out. Lol

[TheGreenArrow]

Bj Boston Folks Bj Boston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NoDopeOnSundays]

David Duke with another bad game. Maybe we’ll be able to snatch him in the second round. I’ll see myself out. Lol

You should have known better than to support the Klan


All jokes aside, that is one of the more unfortunate names I have ever seen for an athlete.

[3toheadmelo]

David Duke with another bad game. Maybe we’ll be able to snatch him in the second round. I’ll see myself out. Lol

You should have known better than to support the Klan :lol:


All jokes aside, that is one of the more unfortunate names I have ever seen for an athlete.

Lmfao

Yeah that name sucks

[knickstape4ever]

Bj Boston Folks Bj Boston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is he turning the corner?

his stats the last 2 games have looked better

[TheGreenArrow]

Bj Boston Folks Bj Boston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is he turning the corner?

his stats the last 2 games have looked better

Yep it was only a matter of time.

[cgf]

disagreed. Jalen Johnson has outstanding fluidity. the only weakness I see in his game is shooting. if he were a knockdown shooter, he'd be in the conversation for #1

in terms of defensively, I see no reason why he can't defend both forward positions w/ his size and fluidity. Mike Schmitz in his scouting report said this:

Shifting down in a pinch is different from regularly defending on the perimeter though. RoCo can switch down too, but if you ask him to consistently guard talented 3s on the perimeter, he gets burned and doesn't get to make as big of an impact as when he's closer to the hoop, playing passing lanes & helping with his length/intelligence.

It's just the weakest part of JJ's game (outside of his shooting), while the strongest parts of his defensive game are his help defense, weakside rim protection & his defensive rebounding. He'll need to fill out, but he's 6'9" with good length & a wide frame; so it's not like size will be a problem for him & I don't see why you would move him away from what he does best to do what he does worst.

...I mean we would have to, but that's why I think we're an awful fit for him; or Barnes, who like almost as much. If we were moving Obi & Julius, then I'd be back on the JJ bandwagon; like I was before the season started.

I disagree. JJ has great lateral quickness and can guard the perimeter well and he has an NBA ready body as well. looks big and strong

We're gunna have to agree to disagree on this one. I was really intrigued by JJ before the season started, but between Julius putting it together, Obi easing some of the concerns I had with that pick, & the Duke games I've caught; I've cooled off on JJ a lot for us. I think he has good quickness for a big and great vertical athleticism, but if you ask him to spend most of his time on the perimeter, you're gunna waste what makes him most interesting defensively and set him up to struggle.

JJ or Barnes would be perfect for Cleveland with Sexland & Okoro at 1-3, or for Minnesota with KAT & Dlo

[cgf]

Who looks good at 12 and 24, after the Knicks screw up their draft position and the Mavs make the playoffs?

Any good guards?

Jared Butler at the Mavs pick looks like he would be great for us. He's not as long as IQ, but he's also a deadly long-range sniper & looks like the better floor-general.

12 is a little later than my prospect crush (Ziaire Williams) is projected right now...but James Bouknight is a skilled scoring guard and the Tennessee kids (Keon Johnson & Jaden Springer) are both talented but raw, especially as shooters; all of them projected within a few picks of 12.

[thebuzzardman]

Who looks good at 12 and 24, after the Knicks screw up their draft position and the Mavs make the playoffs?

Any good guards?

Jared Butler at the Mavs pick looks like he would be great for us. He's not as long as IQ, but he's also a deadly long-range sniper & looks like the better floor-general.

12 is a little later than my prospect crush (Ziaire Williams) is projected right now...but James Bouknight is a skilled scoring guard and the Tennessee kids (Keon Johnson & Jaden Springer) are both talented but raw, especially as shooters; all of them projected within a few picks of 12.

Good to know, as Knicks are bolo'ing their way out of top 8

[cgf]

Who looks good at 12 and 24, after the Knicks screw up their draft position and the Mavs make the playoffs?

Any good guards?

Jared Butler at the Mavs pick looks like he would be great for us. He's not as long as IQ, but he's also a deadly long-range sniper & looks like the better floor-general.

12 is a little later than my prospect crush (Ziaire Williams) is projected right now...but James Bouknight is a skilled scoring guard and the Tennessee kids (Keon Johnson & Jaden Springer) are both talented but raw, especially as shooters; all of them projected within a few picks of 12.

Good to know, as Knicks are bolo'ing their way out of top 8

If we do end up at 12 I'd probably want Moses Moody there if we're likely to still be able to get Butler with the Mavs pick. Moody looks like his transition will be pretty quick and he's a really nice looking 3&D prospect.

But I'd be happy with Bouknight or Keon Johnson there as well...although if we went with one of them & Butler with the Mavs pick; I'd really hope that we'd trade up from our SRPs for Scottie Lewis -- who's going to be one hell of a defender in the NBA.

That all said, until it doesn't happen, I'm assuming we'll end up in that 7-9 range again...where we should have a shot at my guy Ziaire.

[Fat]

Bj Boston Folks Bj Boston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is he turning the corner?

his stats the last 2 games have looked better

Yep it was only a matter of time.

I need at least 3 more decent - good games before I can commit to BJ. He’s been disappointing on the season overall

[cgf]

is he turning the corner?

his stats the last 2 games have looked better

Yep it was only a matter of time.

I need at least 3 more decent - good games before I can commit to BJ. He’s been disappointing on the season overall

I'm with you for now, but if he has started to "figure things out" and is going to play well from here on out, it's easy to wave away that awful start...especially given what a mess that team was without a veteran guard to lead them.

But I still need to see more from him before I'm there...his efficiency has still been booty.

[Fat]

Jared Butler at the Mavs pick looks like he would be great for us. He's not as long as IQ, but he's also a deadly long-range sniper & looks like the better floor-general.

12 is a little later than my prospect crush (Ziaire Williams) is projected right now...but James Bouknight is a skilled scoring guard and the Tennessee kids (Keon Johnson & Jaden Springer) are both talented but raw, especially as shooters; all of them projected within a few picks of 12.

Good to know, as Knicks are bolo'ing their way out of top 8

If we do end up at 12 I'd probably want Moses Moody there if we're likely to still be able to get Butler with the Mavs pick. Moody looks like his transition will be pretty quick and he's a really nice looking 3&D prospect.

But I'd be happy with Bouknight or Keon Johnson there as well...although if we went with one of them & Butler with the Mavs pick; I'd really hope that we'd trade up from our SRPs for Scottie Lewis -- who's going to be one hell of a defender in the NBA.

That all said, until it doesn't happen, I'm assuming we'll end up in that 7-9 range again...where we should have a shot at my guy Ziaire.

Butler / moody would change the Knicks backcourt immediately.

Butler would be a perfect point guard to go with guys like Randle and RJ. He’s a full package point guard that can shoot it, pass, pick and roll, good handles and doesn’t need the ball to be successful.

Moody brings you 3&D right now and he’s only 18 so there’s room to grow into more there.

[cgf]

Good to know, as Knicks are bolo'ing their way out of top 8

If we do end up at 12 I'd probably want Moses Moody there if we're likely to still be able to get Butler with the Mavs pick. Moody looks like his transition will be pretty quick and he's a really nice looking 3&D prospect.

But I'd be happy with Bouknight or Keon Johnson there as well...although if we went with one of them & Butler with the Mavs pick; I'd really hope that we'd trade up from our SRPs for Scottie Lewis -- who's going to be one hell of a defender in the NBA.

That all said, until it doesn't happen, I'm assuming we'll end up in that 7-9 range again...where we should have a shot at my guy Ziaire.

Butler / moody would change the Knicks backcourt immediately.

Butler would be a perfect point guard to go with guys like Randle and RJ. He’s a full package point guard that can shoot it, pass, pick and roll, good handles and doesn’t need the ball to be successful.

Moody is only 18 and brings you 3&D with still room to grow because he’s so young

I'm still hoping to pair RJ with Ziaire between Randle/Toppin & Quickley/Butler, but yeah Moody would be great too.

Either way, I'd hope to sign a younger wing to start next to IQ & RJ while the rookies got polished...Trent Jr & Horton-Tucker being the two that come to mind.

[thebuzzardman]

It's a little early for me for any draft intel; don't want to get my hopes up yet

[knickstape4ever]

Jared Butler at the Mavs pick looks like he would be great for us. He's not as long as IQ, but he's also a deadly long-range sniper & looks like the better floor-general.

12 is a little later than my prospect crush (Ziaire Williams) is projected right now...but James Bouknight is a skilled scoring guard and the Tennessee kids (Keon Johnson & Jaden Springer) are both talented but raw, especially as shooters; all of them projected within a few picks of 12.

Good to know, as Knicks are bolo'ing their way out of top 8

If we do end up at 12 I'd probably want Moses Moody there if we're likely to still be able to get Butler with the Mavs pick. Moody looks like his transition will be pretty quick and he's a really nice looking 3&D prospect.

But I'd be happy with Bouknight or Keon Johnson there as well...although if we went with one of them & Butler with the Mavs pick; I'd really hope that we'd trade up from our SRPs for Scottie Lewis -- who's going to be one hell of a defender in the NBA.

That all said, until it doesn't happen, I'm assuming we'll end up in that 7-9 range again...where we should have a shot at my guy Ziaire.

really like Moody, he's a legit 3&D player

huge Bouknight fan. 3-level scorer

either would be a good get in the 8-12 range. not interested in Keon Johnson. excellent defender, but we really need shooting

I could see Lewis being available at #31 for us w/o even having to move up. really like his potential too