NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 (Fresh poll ➥ Vote)

Dupp · Post #261 » by **Dupp** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:54 pm

Dutchball97 wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:wow stop wasting bandwidth with jokic or durant stuff for mvp.
look at the top 2 seeds of each conference and who is playing the best.

Westbrook won MVP in 2017 as the 6th seed. Who told you the MVP is always on a top 2 seed?

Every other season over the last 20 years?

Stribor · Post #262 » by **Stribor** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:59 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:wow stop wasting bandwidth with jokic or durant stuff for mvp.
look at the top 2 seeds of each conference and who is playing the best.

Then stop with LBJ also. When was the last time that MVP was not top 10 scorer. In last 40 years only Nash and he was by far first in assists. So the record of the team has been important but Westbroke broke it, and stats are even more important + Lakers are still not dominating that much that you could point to LBJ on some team merit.

Stribor · Post #263 » by **Stribor** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:01 pm

Dupp wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:wow stop wasting bandwidth with jokic or durant stuff for mvp.
look at the top 2 seeds of each conference and who is playing the best.

Westbrook won MVP in 2017 as the 6th seed. Who told you the MVP is always on a top 2 seed?

Every other season over the last 20 years?

The same to you, when the mvp was not a top 10 scorer in the last 40 years? Only during Nash and his number 1 assist score.

Dupp · Post #264 » by **Dupp** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:27 pm

Stribor wrote:
Dupp wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:
Westbrook won MVP in 2017 as the 6th seed. Who told you the MVP is always on a top 2 seed?

Every other season over the last 20 years?

The same to you, when the mvp was not a top 10 scorer in the last 40 years? Only during Nash and his number 1 assist score.

What are you on about?

Dupp · Post #265 » by **Dupp** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:32 pm

Crazy that both lebron and AD aren’t top 20 in scoring. Still has no relevance to anything I said.

NyKnicks1714 · Post #266 » by **NyKnicks1714** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:35 pm

Stribor wrote:
Dupp wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:
Westbrook won MVP in 2017 as the 6th seed. Who told you the MVP is always on a top 2 seed?

Every other season over the last 20 years?

The same to you, when the mvp was not a top 10 scorer in the last 40 years? Only during Nash and his number 1 assist score.

So Kawhi and Jokic are out of the running for you?

WHITE_HOT_HEAT · Post #267 » by **WHITE_HOT_HEAT** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:08 pm

Yank3525 wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:In what metric is LeBron making a push for MVP? He's behind AD in pretty much every way.

AD vs LeBron
PER: 26.1 vs 23.2
TS%: .601 vs .579
WS: 2.6 vs 2.1
WS/48: .254 vs .187
BPM: 7.5 vs 5.1
VORP: 1.2 vs 1

I have Jokic and Embiid as 1a and 1b so far. Kawhi, KD and AD round out my top 5 at the moment.

Yeah, he is having his worst season in years and yet people think he should be the front runner lol.

'His worst season' - which can be attributed in large part to the schedule and the mins played.

Also, absolutely no one who regularly watches the games would dump stats and objectively say AD has been better. He's been extremely poor and has admitted to it "HIMSELF"! Sucked!

Mickey8 · Post #268 » by **Mickey8** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:14 pm

The players who are on the super teams, duo's ,trio's , should be disqualified from the MVP race. because they are playing along other superstars and its easier for them cruising through the league , record wise etc.

Ballerhogger · Post #269 » by **Ballerhogger** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:16 pm

Lebron is obivously top 3 with lakers with best record in the nba the narrative and impressive overall stats for him

Post #270 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:25 am

If the Heat ever reach 60% winning percentage, BAM is coming strong into this conversation.

baksuzz · Post #271 » by **baksuzz** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:17 am

i think both kawhi and george should be ahead of Lebron. they have pretty much similar numbers, both kawhi and george shooting better then lebron, same record so far and much much better defense

TOStateofMind · Post #272 » by **TOStateofMind** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:03 am

Has to be Embiid by a decent margin so far. Kawhi has probably put himself in the convo as of recent. Joker would be right there if the team was better. Bron is bron so not much to really say about him lol.

Barnzy · Post #273 » by **Barnzy** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:31 am

LeBron James.

That is all.

MisterHibachi · Post #274 » by **MisterHibachi** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:35 am

Kings4win · Post #275 » by **Kings4win** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:37 am

TOStateofMind wrote:Has to be Embiid by a decent margin so far. Kawhi has probably put himself in the convo as of recent. Joker would be right there if the team was better. Bron is bron so not much to really say about him lol.

And this here is exactly the problem. LeBron gets penalized every year because he is so consistent and Bron is Bron and every year someone else is apparently better when the reality is that no one else is better.

DCasey91 · Post #276 » by **DCasey91** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:39 am

Jesus almighty Lebron lol.

We all know he is the clear cut MVP of this league and him having 5 MVP’s at minimum shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone.

Heat version of Lebron with this kind of jumper is def the Goat. Can do everything at an elite level, what’s scary too he does it so easily.

At 36 too. Take it all in ladies & gents

Ballerhogger · Post #277 » by **Ballerhogger** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:40 am

46 points

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MisterHibachi · Post #278 » by **MisterHibachi** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:44 am

Read on Twitter

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Dupp · Post #279 » by **Dupp** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:46 am

I forgot luka too. Dudes insane

Ballerhogger · Post #280 » by **Ballerhogger** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:47 am

MisterHibachi wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Who is the MVP so far?