DPOY thread

Post #81 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:00 pm

Nate505 wrote:
Perseus1966 wrote:
pace31 wrote:

Giannis is 4-12 all time against the Jazz now

But Giannis still exposed Rudy ...

Yup, he exposed them in another loss...which is pretty much happens when the Bucks play in Salt Lake. They lose.

For the record I'm with pace in this discussion, but doesn't everyone lose in Salt Lake pretty much? Maybe I'm off, but I think of the Jazz as having one of the better home court advantages.

hoosierdaddy34 · Post #82 » by **hoosierdaddy34** » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:09 pm

So the league is shooting just 39.7% on LeBron overall and just 24.5% from three this season. Im not saying he’s DPOY but seems like he is worthy of some consideration and discussion.

pace31 · Post #83 » by **pace31** » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:11 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Nate505 wrote:
Perseus1966 wrote:But Giannis still exposed Rudy ...

Yup, he exposed them in another loss...which is pretty much happens when the Bucks play in Salt Lake. They lose.

For the record I'm with pace in this discussion, but doesn't everyone lose in Salt Lake pretty much? Maybe I'm off, but I think of the Jazz as having one of the better home court advantages.

Historically yes it's been one of the better home court advantages especially during the Stock / Malone and Deron / Boozer eras. Those teams would have major differences between home / road records. The last decade or so though I think we've been more on par with the rest of the league in terms of HCA.

Post #84 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:18 pm

pace31 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Nate505 wrote:
Yup, he exposed them in another loss...which is pretty much happens when the Bucks play in Salt Lake. They lose.

For the record I'm with pace in this discussion, but doesn't everyone lose in Salt Lake pretty much? Maybe I'm off, but I think of the Jazz as having one of the better home court advantages.

Historically yes it's been one of the better home court advantages especially during the Stock / Malone and Deron / Boozer eras. Those teams would have major differences between home / road records. The last decade or so though I think we've been more on par with the rest of the league in terms of HCA.

Thanks I tried googling it and probably could have found it with more digging but the only site I found ended its data with the 13-14 season. So I just recalled how much trouble Dallas always seemed to have in Utah even during the Dirk prime era where they always brought good teams to town.

Altitude, great loud crowds, mostly competitive teams over the years all real factors.

Also Rudy Gobert continues to be the most underappreciated star in the league. Well he and Draymond. People just don't believe in these guys with massive defensive impact and offensive impact that significantly surpasses their surface skill level.

Nate505 · Post #85 » by **Nate505** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:53 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
Nate505 wrote:
Perseus1966 wrote:But Giannis still exposed Rudy ...

Yup, he exposed them in another loss...which is pretty much happens when the Bucks play in Salt Lake. They lose.

For the record I'm with pace in this discussion, but doesn't everyone lose in Salt Lake pretty much? Maybe I'm off, but I think of the Jazz as having one of the better home court advantages.

True, but the Bucks haven't won at the Delta Center (or whatever five names it's been since then) since 2001. Back when Glenn Robinson and Ray Allen were in their lineup. On the plus side, they did beat a team with Stockton/Malone on it.

Post #86 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:36 am

Nate505 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Nate505 wrote:
Yup, he exposed them in another loss...which is pretty much happens when the Bucks play in Salt Lake. They lose.

For the record I'm with pace in this discussion, but doesn't everyone lose in Salt Lake pretty much? Maybe I'm off, but I think of the Jazz as having one of the better home court advantages.

True, but the Bucks haven't won at the Delta Center (or whatever five names it's been since then) since 2001. Back when Glenn Robinson and Ray Allen were in their lineup. On the plus side, they did beat a team with Stockton/Malone on it.

That is crazy.

brutalitops · Post #87 » by **brutalitops** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:39 am

Tier 1
Simmons
Gobert
Turner
Davis
Tier 2
Giannis
Embiid

Perseus1966 · Post #88 » by **Perseus1966** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:04 am

Nate505 wrote:
Perseus1966 wrote:
pace31 wrote:

Giannis is 4-12 all time against the Jazz now

But Giannis still exposed Rudy ...

Yup, he exposed them in another loss...which is pretty much happens when the Bucks play in Salt Lake. They lose.

we use to lose in utah you see you decided to shot 20% tonight against Miami...

pace31 · Post #89 » by **pace31** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:08 am

Perseus1966 wrote:
Nate505 wrote:
Perseus1966 wrote:But Giannis still exposed Rudy ...

Yup, he exposed them in another loss...which is pretty much happens when the Bucks play in Salt Lake. They lose.

we use to lose in utah you see you decided to shot 20% tonight against Miami...

Yep shot terribly and are still dominating. Guess Rudy got exposed last game huh?

JazzyPhinz · Post #90 » by **JazzyPhinz** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:31 am

How good do you have to be to dominate while shooting 20%?

Really love that the jazz just keep quieting the haters.

Perseus1966 · Post #91 » by **Perseus1966** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:41 am

pace31 wrote:
Perseus1966 wrote:
Nate505 wrote:
Yup, he exposed them in another loss...which is pretty much happens when the Bucks play in Salt Lake. They lose.

we use to lose in utah you see you decided to shot 20% tonight against Miami...

Yep shot terribly and are still dominating. Guess Rudy got exposed last game huh?

When Giannis is crap and scores 27 with 4 and 1 yes Rudy is exposed.

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #92 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:12 am

Think nba should get rid of regular season awards and include the postseason. Non bigs would have better shot at DPOY and bigs would have better shot at MVP.

dautjazz · Post #93 » by **dautjazz** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:24 pm

Perseus1966 wrote:
pace31 wrote:
Perseus1966 wrote:we use to lose in utah you see you decided to shot 20% tonight against Miami...

Yep shot terribly and are still dominating. Guess Rudy got exposed last game huh?

When Giannis is crap and scores 27 with 4 and 1 yes Rudy is exposed.

Did you even watch the game? Rudy wasn't defending Giannis, it was Royce O'Neale. Giannis did all his scoring in the second half, and a lot in 4th when the game was over. His stats look good on a boxscore, but he really didn't have a big impact on the game.

Cipoteman · Post #94 » by **Cipoteman** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:32 pm

Fred Vanvleet

Perseus1966 · Post #95 » by **Perseus1966** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:24 pm

dautjazz wrote:
Perseus1966 wrote:
pace31 wrote:
Yep shot terribly and are still dominating. Guess Rudy got exposed last game huh?

When Giannis is crap and scores 27 with 4 and 1 yes Rudy is exposed.
Did you even watch the game? Rudy wasn't defending Giannis, it was Royce O'Neale. Giannis did all his scoring in the second half, and a lot in 4th when the game was over. His stats look good on a boxscore, but he really didn't have a big impact on the game.

Rudy is a rim protector ,Giannis attack the rim so...
Since when a game is over when you are 14 pts back?
Imagine Giannis was crap and scored 29

Hikari · Post #96 » by **Hikari** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:48 pm

Rudy pitched a shut out in the first 7 min of the third qtr vs the Heat last night. Heat did not score in the qtr until he sat down on the bench.

The Jazz also got stops on 6 consecutive positions near the end of the first half.

Hikari · Post #97 » by **Hikari** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:53 pm

What you don't see in this highlight is that the Heat drove or passed in to the paint twice before this on this possession and backed it out when they saw Rudy.

Read on Twitter

lazybatman · Post #98 » by **lazybatman** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:29 pm

Gobert, Simmons and Turner front runners for me.

ItsDanger · Post #99 » by **ItsDanger** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:51 pm

Gobert put on a clinic last night vs Heat. Still underrated because he doesn't chuck 3's. Incredible.

TheFinishSniper · Post #100 » by **TheFinishSniper** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:11 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Gobert put on a clinic last night vs Heat. Still underrated because he doesn't chuck 3's. Incredible.

Defense will never be valuable to casuals until playoffs. Goberts needs to basically dominate playoffs on defense. When he stops Lebron in WCF he will not only get credit for but be looked as top NBA player. Until then it's open book is he underrated or only one who gives flying f in regular season on defensive end.

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