Lonzo Ball Thread (UPDATE: Bulls Offer Sato + 2nd Round picks)

[WindyCityBorn]

LaVine cannot handle the SF position. Dude is like 6’5” 190 lbs. Williams is not a PF either.

With everyone going small I think Lonzo can defend SFs.

he probably could but White Lavine pairing could not guard a chair. Imo they cannot play together, especially how others Bulls players are bad /young/inexperience on defense. Lavine and White have similar strenghts and weakneasses and are redundant to each other. Ball Lavine with Sato (if not traded) White from bench is good backcourt.

The only strength Coby shares with Zach right now is the ability to get hot from 3, but that has been sparse this season.

[Kazuya10]

Its probably a pipe dream and the pelicans would never do it, but would we?

Instead of Ball

Why not trade Otto, PWill, Sato unprotected picks in 21 and 23 and a right to pick swap in 22

For

Ingram and Bledsoe?

The potential of PWill over the sure thing in Ingram?

WCJ
Thad
Ingram
Lavine
Bledsoe

Coby as 6th man and Lauri as 1st big off the bench.

Defence and scoring.. its a nice team

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[BrooklynBulls]

The only reason I'd trade for Ball is if NOP knows they won't resign and thus are holding a fire sale. Lauri is better than Ball. I'd trade Redick and Lonzo for Porter, then send Redick to a third team for any interesting asset back. If they're not interested in that, then they can keep him.

[GrowingHorns]

Its probably a pipe dream and the pelicans would never do it, but would we?

Instead of Ball

Why not trade Otto, PWill, Sato unprotected picks in 21 and 23 and a right to pick swap in 22

For

Ingram and Bledsoe?

The potential of PWill over the sure thing in Ingram?

WCJ
Thad
Ingram
Lavine
Bledsoe

Coby as 6th man and Lauri as 1st big off the bench.

Defence and scoring.. its a nice team

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NOLA is not going for that.
Also, how in the world we would keep Lauri and start him off bench? He is rfa next summer and he gets everything from 15 millions up to 20 at least, and Bulls would have to match. No one starts a young player with that contract off the bench.

[Kazuya10]

Its probably a pipe dream and the pelicans would never do it, but would we?

Instead of Ball

Why not trade Otto, PWill, Sato unprotected picks in 21 and 23 and a right to pick swap in 22

For

Ingram and Bledsoe?

The potential of PWill over the sure thing in Ingram?

WCJ
Thad
Ingram
Lavine
Bledsoe

Coby as 6th man and Lauri as 1st big off the bench.

Defence and scoring.. its a nice team

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NOLA is not going for that.
Also, how in the world we would keep Lauri and start him off bench? He is rfa next summer and he gets everything from 15 millions up to 20 at least, and Bulls would have to match. No one starts a young player with that contract off the bench.

I meant for this year, long term i would try for Collins

[ZOMG]

Its probably a pipe dream and the pelicans would never do it, but would we?

Instead of Ball

Why not trade Otto, PWill, Sato unprotected picks in 21 and 23 and a right to pick swap in 22

For

Ingram and Bledsoe?

The potential of PWill over the sure thing in Ingram?

WCJ
Thad
Ingram
Lavine
Bledsoe

Coby as 6th man and Lauri as 1st big off the bench.

Defence and scoring.. its a nice team

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NOLA is not going for that.
Also, how in the world we would keep Lauri and start him off bench? He is rfa next summer and he gets everything from 15 millions up to 20 at least, and Bulls would have to match. No one starts a young player with that contract off the bench.

Also, there is no way in hell Wendell Carter would make sense in that starting lineup.

A big part of the Pels troubles this season has been due to starting two non-shooters (Adams and Zion) who clog the paint. Ingram handles the ball more than the starting PG but he doesn't have room to operate with those two in there.

Ingram doesn't need a "playmaking" 5 standing at the FT line and holding the ball. He needs the 5 to get the hell out of the way. And we all know Wendell can't do that because he can't shoot.

[KissedByaRose1]

Remember, NOLA has a plethora of picks and AK is one of the best drafting GMs in the NBA.

Lauri for Lonzo and the Lakers 2022 pick. Who says no?

[LateNight]

Remember, NOLA has a plethora of picks and AK is one of the best drafting GMs in the NBA.

Lauri for Lonzo and the Lakers 2022 pick. Who says no?

The Pelicans say no.

[KissedByaRose1]

Remember, NOLA has a plethora of picks and AK is one of the best drafting GMs in the NBA.

Lauri for Lonzo and the Lakers 2022 pick. Who says no?

The Pelicans say no.

I wouldn't do it either if i was Griffin but the league seems to have an inflated view of Lauri for some reason even though he doesn't seem to impact winning. I think the time to move him is now and if AK is talking to the Pellys it's less for Ball and more for future draft capital.

[Kukoc-Lauri]

I would never trade Lauri for Lonzo. Not because value, imo it is fair trade with some filler from Nola, but i would like to pair Ball and Markkanen to bring best out of both players. I bothered a little bit because we never really put right pieces that fits with Zach and Lauri. When Sato is fit and in form Lavine usually play the best, same with Lauri when he was playing alongside R.Lopez. Ball/Simmons is best pg for Lavine and centers like M.Turner/Holmes/J.Allen or maybe even Drummond would complemente perfectly for Lauri's game. Nba is league where fit is really important, not coincedence Embiid and Simmons were at their best with Redick,Bellinelli,Saric,Ilyasova,Covington on roster.

[WindyCityBorn]

I would never trade Lauri for Lonzo. Not because value, imo it is fair trade with some filler from Nola, but i would like to pair Ball and Markkanen to bring best out of both players. I bothered a little bit because we never really put right pieces that fits with Zach and Lauri. When Sato is fit and in form Lavine usually play the best, same with Lauri when he was playing alongside R.Lopez. Ball/Simmons is best pg for Lavine and centers like M.Turner/Holmes/J.Allen or maybe even Drummond would complemente perfectly for Lauri's game. Nba is league where fit is really important, not coincedence Embiid and Simmons were at their best with Redick,Bellinelli,Saric,Ilyasova,Covington on roster.

Bulls should have cap space sign Lauri and Lonzo if they want to. Whether that is a good idea is debatable.

[kodo]

Remember, NOLA has a plethora of picks and AK is one of the best drafting GMs in the NBA.

Lauri for Lonzo and the Lakers 2022 pick. Who says no?

The Pelicans say no.

Lauri would have to play center, since both forward spots are locked as long as both are under contract. Pels already have almost the worst defense in the league, 28th, replacing Adams with Lauri is going to make that worse.

If they're going to trade Lonzo for a big, I would think they're looking for a more athletic defender and someone who doesn't need the ball on offense. So the opposite of Lauri. Maybe Mitch Robinson, not like NY wants to give him up.

Regardless, I'll still follow them because it's the only team in the league trying to build around an old school, low post bruiser banger instead of a shooter or guard. Some much needed variety in the league from the 3P shootouts you see every night, Zion & Julius Randle have been good entertainment this year.

[jump]

Question: I think Sato will continue to demonstrate that he is a much better player than he showed last season. Just like Thad. With that in mind, How much better do you think Lonzo would be that Sato? Balanced with how much more expensive?

[BullChit]

Question: I think Sato will continue to demonstrate that he is a much better player than he showed last season. Just like Thad. With that in mind, How much better do you think Lonzo would be that Sato? Balanced with how much more expensive?

How old is Sato?

I think the Lonzo idea also revolves around a youth movement and trying to get key players in key positions for the years to come.

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[Chi town]

Question: I think Sato will continue to demonstrate that he is a much better player than he showed last season. Just like Thad. With that in mind, How much better do you think Lonzo would be that Sato? Balanced with how much more expensive?

Sato 10M> Lonzo 20M

Not >>> but def >

[chefo]

Sato has been excellent, apart from the couple of games where he did not have his wind back.

Great shooting splits, excellent passing, 3x A/TO, better defense than Coby (low hurdle to clear, I know)-- the team seems to play its best ball when he's on the floor.

I hope he gets up to 25-28 min /game. That would mean more Ws if he can keep it up.

He's not trade fodder--just shows you Jimbo torpedoed his game, just like with Thad. In essence, he's back to being a better-passing version of his Washington self--and that player is worth his contract and then some, if he gets minutes.

[Grodoboldo]

Question: I think Sato will continue to demonstrate that he is a much better player than he showed last season. Just like Thad. With that in mind, How much better do you think Lonzo would be that Sato? Balanced with how much more expensive?

Sato 10M> Lonzo 20M

Not >>> but def >

Well, if we trade Lauri for Ball, we can still keep Sato if we want. If we play 3 guards lineups, there will be minutes available.

[Chi town]

So let’s say Bulls get healthy. Get the 7th seed and lose in 1st round in 6 games.

This summer we sign Lonzo and Lauri to 4/80.

We bring back Thad Sato and Val. Sign a vet min big.

We draft Kispert.

What does this team do next season after tasting playoffs?

Lonzo/Coby
Lavine/Temple
PW/Kispert/Val
Lauri/Thad
WCJ/Lauri/Vet

[Hold That]

So let’s say Bulls get healthy. Get the 7th seed and lose in 1st round in 6 games.

This summer we sign Lonzo and Lauri to 4/80.

We bring back Thad Sato and Val. Sign a vet min big.

We draft Kispert.

What does this team do next season after tasting playoffs?

Lonzo/Coby
Lavine/Temple
PW/Kispert/Val
Lauri/Thad
WCJ/Lauri/Vet

Get bounced out the first round again.

We already know Wendell and Lauri won’t be taking any major strides based on history. Can’t expect PWill to have some major transformation in his second year that will move the needle that much. Lavine would have to be a boarder line superstar next year for us to do anything beyond 1 round. Lonzo would have to start looking like the #2 pick that he was built up to be.

AK and Eversley likely won’t be choosing Kispert maybe if Gar or Pax were here.

[Chi town]

So let’s say Bulls get healthy. Get the 7th seed and lose in 1st round in 6 games.

This summer we sign Lonzo and Lauri to 4/80.

We bring back Thad Sato and Val. Sign a vet min big.

We draft Kispert.

What does this team do next season after tasting playoffs?

Lonzo/Coby
Lavine/Temple
PW/Kispert/Val
Lauri/Thad
WCJ/Lauri/Vet

Get bounced out the first round again.

We already know Wendell and Lauri won’t be taking any major strides based on history. Can’t expect PWill to have some major transformation in his second year that will move the needle that much. Lavine would have to be a boarder line superstar next year for us to do anything beyond 1 round. Lonzo would have to start looking like the #2 pick that he was built up to be.

AK and Eversley likely won’t be choosing Kispert maybe if Gar or Pax were here.

Bigs usually take longer to develop and play better on their 2nd contract. I think Lauri and WCJ will both continue to improve. Lauri was showing significant improvement and near elite offensive TS%.

Why wouldn’t PW get better after a full
Summer league and training camp?

How much better can Lonzo get? He’s certainly getting better every season. His D would be a big help here.

How much better can Zach get? Can he become a top ten player? He’s got a real coach now. He continued to get better on offense and defense.

How good could Coby be off ball and as a secondary playmaker with a good defender like Lonzo next to him?

I’m not so sure Bulls don’t improve and make it out of the 1st round.