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Smaller moves around the edges
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Post#1101 » by spikeslovechild » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:55 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Lonzo was 6-12 from 3 last night, so that 3 point percentage continues to climb. Didn't take a 2 pointer until 3 minutes left in the game, and it was a layup attempt. Morey's gotta love that shot profile...


Is he pulling up or are those shots spot up?


Mostly spot up. Takes the step back sometimes.



He's definitely not the off the bounce scorer we are itching for, but I think what he does would work well here with our Embiid-centric style. Hang out at the top of the key and either take spot ups or pick scrambling defenses apart with his passing.

He's no star, but when you start thinking of him as a 3 and D guy with elite passing he becomes a lot more intriguing. It's basically the Dirk Mavs version of J Kidd.


Also I love curry but he isn't a PG. Having the ball in his hands not only makes the offense less effective but it prevents him from getting to his spots for uncontested 3s
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Post#1102 » by sodmoraes » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:37 pm

Lonzo is good but i think he would be expensive, and doesnt solve our main problem, that is a guard who can create his own shot.

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Post#1103 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:37 pm

Would Shake Milton (i’d prefer to ship Maxey but I expect wolves to decline) + Danny Green for Malik Beasley work?

Malik Beasley 20ppg
45FG%
39 3pt%
2.4 OBPM
5.7ppg in the 4th same tier with Oladipo

He’s better than Lowry and may cost a little cheaper.
Almost as good as Oladipo but cheaper.
He’s more reliable than Tobi in the 4th and almost as reliable as Beal.

As a scorer in crunch time he’s right there with FVV and Brogdon.

I think he’s underrated
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Post#1104 » by youngcrev » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:07 pm

76ciology wrote:Would Shake Milton (i’d prefer to ship Maxey but I expect wolves to decline) + Danny Green for Malik Beasley work?

Malik Beasley 20ppg
45FG%
39 3pt%
2.4 OBPM
5.7ppg in the 4th same tier with Oladipo

He’s better than Lowry and may cost a little cheaper.
Almost as good as Oladipo but cheaper.
He’s more reliable than Tobi in the 4th and almost as reliable as Beal.

As a scorer in crunch time he’s right there with FVV and Brogdon.

I think he’s underrated


Shake is the better player, the better fit, and the better contract.

Can't equate stats being putting up on the worst team in the league. He's not a big on ball threat, he's a good but not elite shooter, and he's a terrible defender.
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Post#1105 » by Sportfan73 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:00 pm

youngcrev wrote:
76ciology wrote:Would Shake Milton (i’d prefer to ship Maxey but I expect wolves to decline) + Danny Green for Malik Beasley work?

Malik Beasley 20ppg
45FG%
39 3pt%
2.4 OBPM
5.7ppg in the 4th same tier with Oladipo

He’s better than Lowry and may cost a little cheaper.
Almost as good as Oladipo but cheaper.
He’s more reliable than Tobi in the 4th and almost as reliable as Beal.

As a scorer in crunch time he’s right there with FVV and Brogdon.

I think he’s underrated


Shake is the better player, the better fit, and the better contract.

Can't equate stats being putting up on the worst team in the league. He's not a big on ball threat, he's a good but not elite shooter, and he's a terrible defender.

Way rather to be looking to move Danny for Rozier and start shake next to him
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Post#1106 » by DCasey91 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:17 pm

76ciology wrote:Would Shake Milton (i’d prefer to ship Maxey but I expect wolves to decline) + Danny Green for Malik Beasley work?

Malik Beasley 20ppg
45FG%
39 3pt%
2.4 OBPM
5.7ppg in the 4th same tier with Oladipo

He’s better than Lowry and may cost a little cheaper.
Almost as good as Oladipo but cheaper.
He’s more reliable than Tobi in the 4th and almost as reliable as Beal.

As a scorer in crunch time he’s right there with FVV and Brogdon.

I think he’s underrated


Haha called Beasley a while ago. In another post I mentioned him but it’s more due to if we can’t get the outside star (Lavine/Beal etc.) without giving too many assets do we snag a younger player that will take the next step in a small amount of time? He ticks all the boxes in my books because:

1. He hasn’t been handed the keys so to speak, he still has to play around stars/good players.
2. Numbers on bad teams may conflate things
3. His age profile suggests he’ll have a big year either this year or next (23-25 is usually when most sportsmen get that jump generally speaking).

Beasley comes with baggage but if there was ever a combo guard that might be undervalued in a short amount of time it’ll probably be him. Has all the tools required. Great size and his shot is quick and pure. Like a 22/5/2 59ts% Efficiency on that contract is a bargain. Could definitely see those types of numbers. He fills a great need for us.

Other youngins I’m keeping tabs on before people realize there true worth:

- I’m sold on Ball lol (Love me some Ball).

- Watching Simons very closely (Blazers is def grooming him (maybe after CJ? Could actually spell great things for us down the line. CJ moved and Simons takes over. I dunno but they’ve had him for awhile.)

- NAW? I think there’s too much overlap with Milton.

Can’t see much else. But certainly Beasley/Ball would be a much more balanced backcourt for Embiid/Simmons.

The more elite Embiid/Simmons becomes the greater margin for error. They will go far provided the team structure gets up to scratch.
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Post#1107 » by DCasey91 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:39 pm





Past week or so, he definitely has all the required tools/skillset there that’s for sure. His shot is pretty and I like his size. Regardless of what he’s done outside of the NBA he well and truly passes the eye test.
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Post#1108 » by Kobblehead » Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:53 pm

My problems with Malik Beasley:

- he's a bad person into some shady stuff
- he plays no defense
- he can't slash
- he's never played in a creation role at the NBA level

I see the positives of him being athletic, being able to shoot, and being capable of scoring off the dribble in the midrange. I don't think he's a complete solution, though.
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Post#1109 » by eyeatoma » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:28 pm

76ciology wrote:Would Shake Milton (i’d prefer to ship Maxey but I expect wolves to decline) + Danny Green for Malik Beasley work?

Malik Beasley 20ppg
45FG%
39 3pt%
2.4 OBPM
5.7ppg in the 4th same tier with Oladipo

He’s better than Lowry and may cost a little cheaper.
Almost as good as Oladipo but cheaper.
He’s more reliable than Tobi in the 4th and almost as reliable as Beal.

As a scorer in crunch time he’s right there with FVV and Brogdon.

I think he’s underrated


He's also a horrible human being who stuck a gun in his child's face. I want no part of that cancer on my team. He was just benched to start the game because he was late for walk through. No thanks.
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Post#1110 » by Sixersftw » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:50 pm

No to Beasley, thats human garbage. Would love a Lonzo or NAW but I dunno if Daryl is going to look for someone else that needs development.
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Post#1111 » by kriss73 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:45 pm

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Post#1112 » by Stanford » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:08 pm

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Could this be Ben's stretch 5?
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Post#1113 » by kriss73 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:10 pm

Slapping his butt with Joel :D
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Post#1114 » by Stanford » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:11 pm

For real though, he's going to Brooklyn, right? Or LA
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Post#1115 » by Negrodamus » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:13 pm

I'd be fine with putting Dwight in an trade and signing Boogie. Surprised they're letting him go.
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Post#1116 » by Kobblehead » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:20 pm

Shouldn't Boston be all over Boogie?
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Post#1117 » by Stanford » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:28 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Shouldn't Boston be all over Boogie?


I don't get the sense that anyone wants to play in Boston
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Post#1118 » by eyeatoma » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:41 pm

Stanford wrote:For real though, he's going to Brooklyn, right? Or LA


Probably not Brooklyn after this...

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Post#1119 » by Stanford » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:42 pm

Oh yeah! I forgot about that.

So LA
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Post#1120 » by youngcrev » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:46 pm

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Could this be Ben's stretch 5?


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