The Official Cunningham vs Suggs Thread #Tank4Either

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I know its so far out but I'm starting to almost feel locked into our "realistic" pick being either Christopher or Bouknight. We REALLY need someone with the potential to create their own shot.

But we continue to climb with our fake Ws right to a 1st rd exit. Started with dreaming of tanking for Cade, praying to stop at Johnson or Barnes and now just hopeful for one of Christopher or Bouknight and eventually worried it will continue where we're looking at Ayo or Wagner.

#1stroundordietrying

Ayo just got his 2nd triple double of the season vs Minnesota!!!

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I know I know out of our range, just fun to watch so thought some might enjoy it. I hope he doesn’t go to Detroit. They’ll ruin his career.

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I know I know out of our range, just fun to watch so thought some might enjoy it. I hope he doesn’t go to Detroit. They’ll ruin his career.

And he will be treated better in Minnesota or Cleveland?

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Bleacher Report updated their mock and I see Garuba at 15, so I think others believe this guy is a fringe lottery level talent.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2931670-2021-nba-draft-big-board-updated-top-50-players

Ona related note, wow at Springer and Johnson from Tennessee being at 6 and 7. I am curious how that team does during March Madness. Personally I'd put Davion Mitchell ahead of Keon Johnson any day, and Scottie Barnes is dropping for me. I just feel like he is RHJ, a non-scorer who is a bit weird to figure out where he plays.

I am high on Davion Mitchell as well, but not sure we should draft him near 20th, since he would be 23 when next season starts. Wish we got another high 2nd pick for him if he falls due to his draft age.

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Bleacher Report updated their mock and I see Garuba at 15, so I think others believe this guy is a fringe lottery level talent.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2931670-2021-nba-draft-big-board-updated-top-50-players

Ona related note, wow at Springer and Johnson from Tennessee being at 6 and 7. I am curious how that team does during March Madness. Personally I'd put Davion Mitchell ahead of Keon Johnson any day, and Scottie Barnes is dropping for me. I just feel like he is RHJ, a non-scorer who is a bit weird to figure out where he plays.

I am high on Davion Mitchell as well, but not sure we should draft him near 20th, since he would be 23 when next season starts. Wish we got another high 2nd pick for him if he falls due to his draft age.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/davion-mitchell-1.html

He's been hot this past month. Only half a season as he was okay last season. Also the SOS hasn't been the toughest.

Baylor is ranked high and I haven't watched much but isn't Jared Butler the better prospect? He would've been a 2nd round pick last draft. Would they be like Terry Rozier level players? Maybe they excel and become like Sexton or Garland, but I'd rather draft a big.

With Ayo's size at 6'5 I'd take him over Mitchell and Butler.

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Bleacher Report updated their mock and I see Garuba at 15, so I think others believe this guy is a fringe lottery level talent.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2931670-2021-nba-draft-big-board-updated-top-50-players

Ona related note, wow at Springer and Johnson from Tennessee being at 6 and 7. I am curious how that team does during March Madness. Personally I'd put Davion Mitchell ahead of Keon Johnson any day, and Scottie Barnes is dropping for me. I just feel like he is RHJ, a non-scorer who is a bit weird to figure out where he plays.

I am high on Davion Mitchell as well, but not sure we should draft him near 20th, since he would be 23 when next season starts. Wish we got another high 2nd pick for him if he falls due to his draft age.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/davion-mitchell-1.html

He's been hot this past month. Only half a season as he was okay last season. Also the SOS hasn't been the toughest.

Baylor is ranked high and I haven't watched much but isn't Jared Butler the better prospect? He would've been a 2nd round pick last draft. Would they be like Terry Rozier level players? Maybe they excel and become like Sexton or Garland, but I'd rather draft a big.

With Ayo's size at 6'5 I'd take him over Mitchell and Butler.

Rozier has a 6'8 wingspan.
The wingspan of Butler is 6'4? Which is average (Chris Paul, Kemba Walker wingspan), and without a quick first step, my thought is that it will be more difficult for him to create his own shot.

Meanwhile, Davion Mitchell has a quick first step, so I have him higher than Butler, even with the draft age. But his wingspan is only 6'5, which is below average for SG, even though he looks bigger, so I am unsure we can have dual PG lineup.

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Rozier has a 6'8 wingspan.
The wingspan of Butler is 6'4? Which is average (Chris Paul, Kemba Walker wingspan), and without a quick first step, my thought is that it will be more difficult for him to create his own shot.

Meanwhile, Davion Mitchell has a quick first step, so I have him higher than Butler, even with the draft age. But his wingspan is only 6'5, which is below average for SG, even though he looks bigger, so I am unsure we can have dual PG lineup.

Ya, meant level, not direct comp. Like a bench player that spot starts and if going to a lessor team starts and becomes slightly above average. I don't see either as that much better than Powell and with Harris and TD, not a pressing need.

[HeadtopChunes]

I have Butler >> Mitchell by bit, Butler has no weakness in his game and I’m not buying Mitchell’s shooting

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I have Butler >> Mitchell by bit, Butler has no weakness in his game and I’m not buying Mitchell’s shooting

Mitchell seems quicker and athletic.

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I have Butler >> Mitchell by bit, Butler has no weakness in his game and I’m not buying Mitchell’s shooting

Mitchell seems quicker and athletic.

The shooting is a concern for Mitchell. I just feel our team has a better trend of improving shooting of players.
Meanwhile, I wish to draft a forward or centre though, so at the end, I am not sure I prefer either of them at 20.

What do you think about Maxey comparing to both of them?

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I know I know out of our range, just fun to watch so thought some might enjoy it. I hope he doesn’t go to Detroit. They’ll ruin his career.

And he will be treated better in Minnesota or Cleveland?

With Minny they have to start winning eventually right? Cade, Russell and Towns. Cavs won’t draft him I feel. I think they go for mobley.

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I have Butler >> Mitchell by bit, Butler has no weakness in his game and I’m not buying Mitchell’s shooting

Mitchell seems quicker and athletic.

The shooting is a concern for Mitchell. I just feel our team has a better trend of improving shooting of players.
Meanwhile, I wish to draft a forward or centre though, so at the end, I am not sure I prefer either of them at 20.

What do you think about Maxey comparing to both of them?

I agree with the forward / centre hole to fill.

https://gleague.nba.com/player/paul-reed/

Paul Reed is producing in the G-League. He was taken right before Jalen Harris!!!

Can you believe that the Raptors winning late last season getting the #2 overall place would matter? Jaden McDaniels was taken #28 before Malachi Flynn.

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Mitchell seems quicker and athletic.

The shooting is a concern for Mitchell. I just feel our team has a better trend of improving shooting of players.
Meanwhile, I wish to draft a forward or centre though, so at the end, I am not sure I prefer either of them at 20.

What do you think about Maxey comparing to both of them?

I agree with the forward / centre hole to fill.

https://gleague.nba.com/player/paul-reed/

Paul Reed is producing in the G-League. He was taken right before Jalen Harris!!!

Can you believe that the Raptors winning late last season getting the #2 overall place would matter? Jaden McDaniels was taken #28 before Malachi Flynn.

You mean
#25 Quickley
#26 Pritchard
(#27 Azubuike - exception, raw talent)
#28 McDaniels

Those are all performing better? I definitely feel for you. And also think there are better role players after us.

[Kevin Willis]

I want the next Bargnani.

[HeadtopChunes]

I have Butler >> Mitchell by bit, Butler has no weakness in his game and I’m not buying Mitchell’s shooting

Mitchell seems quicker and athletic.

he is but Butler is a good shooter and has an elite handle, plus good defender too. (also 2 years younger)

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The shooting is a concern for Mitchell. I just feel our team has a better trend of improving shooting of players.
Meanwhile, I wish to draft a forward or centre though, so at the end, I am not sure I prefer either of them at 20.

What do you think about Maxey comparing to both of them?

I agree with the forward / centre hole to fill.

https://gleague.nba.com/player/paul-reed/

Paul Reed is producing in the G-League. He was taken right before Jalen Harris!!!

Can you believe that the Raptors winning late last season getting the #2 overall place would matter? Jaden McDaniels was taken #28 before Malachi Flynn.

You mean
#25 Quickley
#26 Pritchard
(#27 Azubuike - exception, raw talent)
#28 McDaniels

Those are all performing better? I definitely feel for you. And also think there are better role players after us.

I'm just saying that I believe it came down to the final game to take the #2 spot.

[PhilBlackson]

I know its so far out but I'm starting to almost feel locked into our "realistic" pick being either Christopher or Bouknight. We REALLY need someone with the potential to create their own shot.

But we continue to climb with our fake Ws right to a 1st rd exit. Started with dreaming of tanking for Cade, praying to stop at Johnson or Barnes and now just hopeful for one of Christopher or Bouknight and eventually worried it will continue where we're looking at Ayo or Wagner.

#1stroundordietrying

Ayo just got his 2nd triple double of the season vs Minnesota!!!

Watch on YouTube

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Again I prefer one of Christopher or Bouknight but I can see our scouting department really liking Ayo...

He can almost play a hybrid role of Delon and Norm. He has the ballhandling to help push the ball up, set up the offense (like Delon did) and the downhill drives to score or pitch out (like Norm) with of course the ability to hit a pitch out 3 as well. He'll the role of what we've typically been trying to run through our "off guard"/SG but again personally would just prefer we find someone with go to scoring potential that can create his own as a true scorer with more crafty ballhandling, foot work and purer shooting stroke like the guys I said before.

With this weird lack of direction for our team it's gonna be interesting where we land...

[Mark_83]

He's been mentioned here before, but I finally got to check out Canadian, Bennedict Mathurin and I think he might be my pick right now unless someone better drops. In fact, I'm worried he might even rise out of our range due to the SGA effect. I feel like SGA helped his cousin Nickiel go 17th, and I can see Mathurin rise up to the 15-17 range himself.

The guy would be great to pair with Fred and potentially replace Norm. 6'6 with a 7 foot wingspan, and great frame. He can handle the ball and has nice touch from outside (41%).

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I know its so far out but I'm starting to almost feel locked into our "realistic" pick being either Christopher or Bouknight. We REALLY need someone with the potential to create their own shot.

But we continue to climb with our fake Ws right to a 1st rd exit. Started with dreaming of tanking for Cade, praying to stop at Johnson or Barnes and now just hopeful for one of Christopher or Bouknight and eventually worried it will continue where we're looking at Ayo or Wagner.

#1stroundordietrying

Ayo just got his 2nd triple double of the season vs Minnesota!!!

Watch on YouTube

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Again I prefer one of Christopher or Bouknight but I can see our scouting department really liking Ayo...

He can almost play a hybrid role of Delon and Norm. He has the ballhandling to help push the ball up, set up the offense (like Delon did) and the downhill drives to score or pitch out (like Norm) with of course the ability to hit a pitch out 3 as well. He'll the role of what we've typically been trying to run through our "off guard"/SG but again personally would just prefer we find someone with go to scoring potential that can create his own as a true scorer with more crafty ballhandling, foot work and purer shooting stroke like the guys I said before.

With this weird lack of direction for our team it's gonna be interesting where we land...

I really like his quick burst while doing his crossovers. His first step is great. Something that should translate in the pros.

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He's been mentioned here before, but I finally got to check out Canadian, Bennedict Mathurin and I think he might be my pick right now unless someone better drops. In fact, I'm worried he might even rise out of our range due to the SGA effect. I feel like SGA helped his cousin Nickiel go 17th, and I can see Mathurin rise up to the 15-17 range himself.

The guy would be great to pair with Fred and potentially replace Norm. 6'6 with a 7 foot wingspan, and great frame. He can handle the ball and has nice touch from outside (41%).

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As I pointed out before, he's very inconsistent but as a freshman he still ends up with really good %'s; 47.3/41.6/85.5.

Also he's still only 18 until June!!!

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