RapZilla wrote:The Refs
This. How hard is it to never give the benefit of the doubt to known floppers. If they complain, you simply state I can't tell when you're flopping and when you're actually being fouled. Case closed.
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RapZilla wrote:The Refs
The4thHorseman wrote:The Pistons Bill Laimbeer was a master of the flop. Then taught teammate Rodman the art of embellishing little to no contact.
jamaalstar21 wrote:Laimbeer and Rodman for sure. Vlade came after, and he flopped with the best of him. I think the "euro's introduced flopping to the NBA" is an overstated thing. People attribute it to soccer, and much of Europe has more of a soccer culture than the States. People point to Vlade and Manu because they were quite artful about it, but the Bad Boys were no slouches in this department.
By the late 2000s, players were getting pretty sophisticated with baiting the refs. The Bad Boys, Reggie, Vlade, alll the people who are getting mentions are the pioneers.
BoatsNZones wrote:Soulyss wrote:Lord Eder wrote:Divac came first to mind, but I’m sure it goes further than that
Divac popularized it, Manu perfected it.
Manu merely adopted the flop. Vlade was born in it, molded by it.
Soulyss wrote:BoatsNZones wrote:Soulyss wrote:
Divac popularized it, Manu perfected it.
Manu merely adopted the flop. Vlade was born in it, molded by it.
Naw, no one masters the flop like Manu without giving his whole heart and soul to it...
loserX wrote:Lol @ LeBron being on the poll, much less getting multiple votes. Yeah, nobody ever even heard of it before him, I guess. Oh, you guys.
Divac was a flopping god (and it looked even more absurd because he was so huge) but yes, if one player can be said to have "popularized" it, it would be Manu.
infintybeyond wrote:loserX wrote:Lol @ LeBron being on the poll, much less getting multiple votes. Yeah, nobody ever even heard of it before him, I guess. Oh, you guys.
Divac was a flopping god (and it looked even more absurd because he was so huge) but yes, if one player can be said to have "popularized" it, it would be Manu.
It is possible. Lebron was the biggest superstar in the game, on the most popular team, and on the biggest stage doing things like this. Divac and Manu don't have the public reach or cultural impact of a superstar like Lebron James.
IMO, it was that whole generation of superstar floppers like CP3, Lebron, and Wade that really popularized it.
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