Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

[Caped Crusader]

I think a better discussion with a ton of potential would be Nikola Jokic or Rey Mysterio in a street fight.

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[SCTwins]

Exactly, but some folks here think a 140lb is easily going to snatch his arm or ankle and take him down in 30 sec
Lesner is another example, minimal fight training although he had a wrestling background from college, but still does good based on his freak size and athletism.

Lemme know how Zion will defend an Imanari roll with no training.

I'll wait.

Lemme know when Conor can execute an Imanari roll or any leglock for that matter.

Because a BJJ brown belt has never trained leglocks, and couldn’t pull one off on a guy who isn't even white belt level.

You guys are funny.

I do respect the username though.

[DCasey91]

Nate Robinson.

Conor is an elite level striker. A piledrive from Zion would end up horribly for him. A clinch is the last place you’d want to be. And at range one leg kick to the knee yeah no thanks. Don’t think Zion has ever been kicked before from an actual trained high class fighter. Gets hit there he’d be on the ground hunched over then it’s game over lol. Even without the injuries. Don’t think he’s copped an elbow before either.
That wouldn’t be hard at all to do.

Let alone when they are on the ground.

Having no rules for an elite level mma fighter is a lot scarier than having rules. So a back alley brawl anything goes. Connor would snap kick to the closest body part (dirty area of course no rules this time) once and Zion would crap his pants lol.

[JoeyLightYears]

The ironic thing about this thread is that I know, from previous discussions, that a good percentage of guys on this board think they could beat Diana Taurasi in a game of one-on-one.

[BlackNoir]

Zion isn't just 285 he's a STRONG 285. Like his bone density, muscle fibers, tendon strength, something about him is just strong. I don't think Connor even with his far superior skill can manipulate him as easily. And Zion has a massive length advantage as well. I feel like Connor would be able to do it fighting extremely dirty but Zion would have a very real chance of straight up rag dolling him.

Exactly, but some folks here think a 140lb is easily going to snatch his arm or ankle and take him down in 30 sec
Lesner is another example, minimal fight training although he had a wrestling background from college, but still does good based on his freak size and athletism.

Lemme know how Zion will defend an Imanari roll with no training.

I'll wait.

You guys are clueless, at a certain point skill does not over cede size and strength.
Explain to me how a scrawny 5'8, 140lb guy who is very limited on the ground by the way, is going to execute an Imanari roll on Zion?? Have you seen how long and large his legs are? Is Connor just going to magically get him on the ground to execute it?

[SAKURABA216]

Lemme know how Zion will defend an Imanari roll with no training.

I'll wait.

Lemme know when Conor can execute an Imanari roll or any leglock for that matter.

Because a BJJ brown belt has never trained leglocks, and couldn’t pull one off on a guy who isn't even white belt level.

You guys are funny.

I do respect the username though.

Lol thanks, I was the biggest Saku fan since the Pride FC GP 2000. I remember even watching Masakazu Imanari doing the Imanari roll back in the day in ZST and Deep because his stand up was awful but he was really good with leg-locks lol.

I think the closest Conor came to showing us a leg-lock was when he swept Nate Diaz and ended up in top position at the end of the first round in their first fight:

https://www.thefight-site.com/home/mctapper-no-more-analyzing-the-grappling-of-conor-mcgregor-at-ufc-196

Don't get me wrong, I love Conor and even named my oldest son after him (this was before the rape allegations lol), he just isn't much of a submission artist and leg-locks require a ton of skill.

[BlackNoir]

Jake Paul is 6'1 - 190lbs and a amateur boxer at best, yet Connor wants no part of that boxing match.
Considering the guy is all about a big pay day, its the size that he is scared of.

[SAKURABA216]

Jake Paul is 6'1 - 190lbs and a amateur boxer at best, yet Connor wants no part of that boxing match.
Considering the guy is all about a big pay day, its the size that he is scared of.

If Conor doesn't want that fight its because he would lose all credibility as a fighterand not because he is scared of him. Conor probably walks around at 170 and is 5'9. Yeah Jake Paul is bigger, but Conor would eat him in a boxing match.

[BlackNoir]

There is zero chance Zion wins. First of all...you're not even considering the mental game. I don't care how big you are...NO ONE WANTS TO GET PUNCHED IN THE FACE.

Someone with no fighting experience is going to be **** bricks and either just covering up and praying they don't get hurt, or flailing away like Nate against that youtuber and getting KTFO.

Size matters, but only if you have some skill to back it up. If size mattered THAT much, then Bob Sapp wouldn't be something like 10 and 20 or whatever and would have dominated MMA. He's 6'6" THREE FIFTY and had training...and still got beat by lesser guys.

Zion is my favorite player and I hate Connor...but he absolutely destroys Zion.

By your logic Conor could kick a Gorilla/Bull/Elephants ass as well, tHey DonT HavE FiGhT tRaiNing

[SCTwins]

Exactly, but some folks here think a 140lb is easily going to snatch his arm or ankle and take him down in 30 sec
Lesner is another example, minimal fight training although he had a wrestling background from college, but still does good based on his freak size and athletism.

Lemme know how Zion will defend an Imanari roll with no training.

I'll wait.

You guys are clueless, at a certain point skill does not over cede size and strength.
Explain to me how a scrawny 5'8, 140lb guy who is very limited on the ground by the way, is going to execute an Imanari roll on Zion?? Have you seen how long and large his legs are? Is Connor just going to magically get him on the ground to execute it?

Do you think he can ankle strength his way out of that?

[BlackNoir]

Jake Paul is 6'1 - 190lbs and a amateur boxer at best, yet Connor wants no part of that boxing match.
Considering the guy is all about a big pay day, its the size that he is scared of.

If Conor doesn't want that fight its because he would lose all credibility as a fighterand not because he is scared of him. Conor probably walks around at 170 and is 5'9. Yeah Jake Paul is bigger, but Conor would eat him in a boxing match.

His legacy is already tarnished a bit with his last few fights, there is a ton of talent in that weight class in MMA, he wont go down as a top of the crop guy.

[BlackNoir]

Lemme know how Zion will defend an Imanari roll with no training.

I'll wait.

You guys are clueless, at a certain point skill does not over cede size and strength.
Explain to me how a scrawny 5'8, 140lb guy who is very limited on the ground by the way, is going to execute an Imanari roll on Zion?? Have you seen how long and large his legs are? Is Connor just going to magically get him on the ground to execute it?

Do you think he can ankle strength his way out of that?

Re-read the post, how can he even get him into that position. A guy that large, it doesn't matter if you block, your going to get wrecked if your 140lbs.

[SCTwins]

Lemme know when Conor can execute an Imanari roll or any leglock for that matter.

Because a BJJ brown belt has never trained leglocks, and couldn’t pull one off on a guy who isn't even white belt level.

You guys are funny.

I do respect the username though.

Lol thanks, I was the biggest Saku fan since the Pride FC GP 2000. I remember even watching Masakazu Imanari doing the Imanari roll back in the day in ZST and Deep because his stand up was awful but he was really good with leg-locks lol.

I think the closest Conor came to showing us a leg-lock was when he swept Nate Diaz and ended up in top position at the end of the first round in their first fight:

https://www.thefight-site.com/home/mctapper-no-more-analyzing-the-grappling-of-conor-mcgregor-at-ufc-196

Don't get me wrong, I love Conor and even named my oldest son after him (this was before the rape allegations lol), he just isn't much of a submission artist and leg-locks require a ton of skill.

I'm not a Conor fan, but dude trains with Danis(who I also don't like). I'm pretty damn sure he's been put through just about every grappling position imaginable. He also survived an alpha male guillotine against one of the strongest dudes at 145 and swept Nate Diaz a couple times. His jitz is underrated, IMO. But pulling them off against elite grapples vs a dude who's never trained is a massive difference.

[SCTwins]

You guys are clueless, at a certain point skill does not over cede size and strength.
Explain to me how a scrawny 5'8, 140lb guy who is very limited on the ground by the way, is going to execute an Imanari roll on Zion?? Have you seen how long and large his legs are? Is Connor just going to magically get him on the ground to execute it?

Do you think he can ankle strength his way out of that?

Re-read the post, how can he even get him into that position. A guy that large, it doesn't matter if you block, your going to get wrecked if your 140lbs.

An imanari roll goes right into a heel hook on a standing person. He doesn't need to get him to the ground first. If you bend someone's ankle the right way, they are going to the ground. Its instinctive to fall against the pressure being put on your ankle.

[DCasey91]

Exactly, but some folks here think a 140lb is easily going to snatch his arm or ankle and take him down in 30 sec
Lesner is another example, minimal fight training although he had a wrestling background from college, but still does good based on his freak size and athletism.

Lemme know how Zion will defend an Imanari roll with no training.

I'll wait.

You guys are clueless, at a certain point skill does not over cede size and strength.
Explain to me how a scrawny 5'8, 140lb guy who is very limited on the ground by the way, is going to execute an Imanari roll on Zion?? Have you seen how long and large his legs are? Is Connor just going to magically get him on the ground to execute it?

Scrawny 5”8” 140lb guy? You must be talking about a different guy. Conor ain’t that lol. He has gigantic hands and hits hard for his size. Zion has no idea about fighting. In fact he wouldn’t know if he was in in range or not. Conor would kill him.

[Cavsfansince84]

You guys are clueless, at a certain point skill does not over cede size and strength.
Explain to me how a scrawny 5'8, 140lb guy who is very limited on the ground by the way, is going to execute an Imanari roll on Zion?? Have you seen how long and large his legs are? Is Connor just going to magically get him on the ground to execute it?

Do you think he can ankle strength his way out of that?

Re-read the post, how can he even get him into that position. A guy that large, it doesn't matter if you block, your going to get wrecked if your 140lbs.

I don't get why you keep repeating 140lb. I don't care if you think Conor wins or loses but he had to cut like crazy to make 145 which is a weight he hasn't fought at in like 5 years yet you think that he walks around at 140 now? He's 170 minimum. Possibly closer to 180.

[M4P]

You guys are clueless, at a certain point skill does not over cede size and strength.
Explain to me how a scrawny 5'8, 140lb guy who is very limited on the ground by the way, is going to execute an Imanari roll on Zion?? Have you seen how long and large his legs are? Is Connor just going to magically get him on the ground to execute it?

Do you think he can ankle strength his way out of that?

Re-read the post, how can he even get him into that position. A guy that large, it doesn't matter if you block, your going to get wrecked if your 140lbs.

Do you really think that fighters walk around at their weight class?

Casual

[M4P]

Do you think he can ankle strength his way out of that?

Re-read the post, how can he even get him into that position. A guy that large, it doesn't matter if you block, your going to get wrecked if your 140lbs.

An imanari roll goes right into a heel hook on a standing person. He doesn't need to get him to the ground first. If you bend someone's ankle the right way, they are going to the ground. Its instinctive to fall against the pressure being put on your ankle.

imanari roll would be probably top 5 dumbest things you can do in an altercation where soccer kicks are fair game. For Conor to have a chance, he'd have to stay outside Zion's range or shoot for a takedown and transition to a sub.

[DCasey91]

Conor walks around at 170ish. Anyway doesn’t matter. Dudes an elite striker. The closer Zion gets to him (because he has no clue about range or fighting in general) the worst it will be. Zion has multiple injuries on his knee. What do you think will happen against an elite striker lol.

[VanWest82]

Depends. Is Zion allowed to kick McGregor in the calf? Neither one of these guys will be able to breathe after the first round.