2021 NBA Draft Thread

[ThunderBolt]

Obviously depends on our draft position but if we're talking late lotto I wouldn't hate if we were the team that ended up w BJ Boston.

I just feel screwed either way with Boston. UK prospects continue to underachieve there but on the other hand, Boston has just been bad.

Not sure what you mean by either way here. But yeah BJ hasnt been efficient at all. Im just more encouraged by the overall fluidity/body control/size and length to play on the wing. I like his defensive instincts as well and think he'll be a willing competitor on that end. Plus, as youve mentioned, UK prospects almost always play better at the next level than they did in college.

Just meaning that if we pass on him, he’ll be a stud. If we draft him, maybe the flaws don’t improve.

[ThunderBolt]

I said it’s not Cade or bust and it’s not. But....man, he’s special.

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[jambalaya]

Bleijenbergh plays in Belgium League and now for first time EuroCup (junior league for teams not in Euroleague). Comparative poor and mediocre competition levels. He is an average shooter and scorer. Pretty good from shorter 3 pt line but must not be very good from 2. Doing the tall point forward thing. Decent but not that special assists accompanied by high turnovers. Likes transition but low level transition success does not automatically mean he can do it at a higher level. Modest FT rate. Rebounding in Belgian league is maybe ok but it is almost cut in half at Eurocup level.

Have to ask: will he be allowed to play the way he wants to? If not, his clips playing with the ball in transition don't mean that much. Like with some other guys. Herzonja, Pokusevski, etc.

Euro Stats alone are enough to say yay or nay. He might be decent under radar prospect or just another pretender in the line of guys trying for a huge role that is rare in NBA and only for the very best. He might be a 3pt shooter / secondary or tertiary creator. I have no idea about his defense. Might watch more later.

[retrobro90]

I said it’s not Cade or bust and it’s not. But....man, he’s special.

Unreal performance from him today. Would take something pretty damn dramatic from the others in the top 5 for him to not #1 at this point imo.

[thedoppelganger]

I said it’s not Cade or bust and it’s not. But....man, he’s special.

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His ability to score from all 3 levels with no spacing and every game plan focused on him is so impressive. I don't think anyone that gets #1 is going to trade down, but if we land anywhere from 3-5 I would hope we'd do everything to trade up like Dallas did for Luka.

[ThunderBolt]

I said it’s not Cade or bust and it’s not. But....man, he’s special.

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His ability to score from all 3 levels with no spacing and every game plan focused on him is so impressive. I don't think anyone that gets #1 is going to trade down, but if we land anywhere from 3-5 I would hope we'd do everything to trade up like Dallas did for Luka.

Agreed. Offer anything and almost everything besides shai. At least we can say we tried.

[Old Man Game]

Load manage Shai and Dort. We gotta get a top three pick. All hands on deck.

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[Old Man Game]

I said it’s not Cade or bust and it’s not. But....man, he’s special.

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There were some moves he was putting on dudes, especially with the footwork, I know this is high praise, but honestly, it reminded me of Kobe.

[ThunderBolt]

Load manage Shai and Dort. We gotta get a top three pick. All hands on deck.

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Sam has had opportunities to all out tank the last couple years and he’s made moves to the contrary. No moves at last years deadline and trading Green for Horford tell me he’s not going to try to create the worst roster in the league. Gotta hope we get lucky.

[Dadouv47]

I don't think we could offer enough to move up into the draft to get Cade. No team would take some ''bad'' FRPs and decent prospects to pass on Cade.

We just have to tank a bit and get 10% chances of being lucky. And if we end up with a top 5 pick, that's already pretty good.

Gonna be heartbreaking to miss Cade for sure...

[Dadouv47]

At this point I just hope some 6-10 ranked prospects are improving so Presti can trade some assets and move up into the draft to get Mobley or Kuminga. No clue what it will cost to go from 6-8 to 3-4 into this draft but it could be worth overpaying for it.

[ThunderBolt]

If his play continues, Green is going to separate himself as the clear number two pick in this draft. I would have argued he had a shot at number one before Cade's performance yesterday. That being said, Green has been pretty efficient the last few games. Suggs and Mobley are probably fourth and fifth at the point.

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[Old Man Game]

And the athleticism. If Cade had Jalen Green's bounce he dunks that ball on Reeves yesterday. Probably draws an and 1. Instead he got two from the line.

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[Old Man Game]

Load manage Shai and Dort. We gotta get a top three pick. All hands on deck.

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Sam has had opportunities to all out tank the last couple years and he’s made moves to the contrary. No moves at last years deadline and trading Green for Horford tell me he’s not going to try to create the worst roster in the league. Gotta hope we get lucky.

They have load managed Horford a lot though. I think they want to tank. They just have too much shame to go full process sixers. Also trying to keep SGA bought in. It's a tough balance.

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[ThunderBolt]

Load manage Shai and Dort. We gotta get a top three pick. All hands on deck.

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Sam has had opportunities to all out tank the last couple years and he’s made moves to the contrary. No moves at last years deadline and trading Green for Horford tell me he’s not going to try to create the worst roster in the league. Gotta hope we get lucky.

They have load managed Horford a lot though. I think they want to tank. They just have too much shame to go full process sixers. Also trying to keep SGA bought in. It's a tough balance.

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The problem is they still win when they've rested guys. Like you said, it's a balancing act because of having Shai and a coach that is trying to develop players. I'm just ready for the lottery to know where we are picking. I don't mind watching this team play but in some ways its as stressful as winning.

[ThunderBolt]

There is talk about Isaiah Todd on the draft forum. I went and watched some of his highlights. He's pretty interesting too.

[Dadouv47]

Sam has had opportunities to all out tank the last couple years and he’s made moves to the contrary. No moves at last years deadline and trading Green for Horford tell me he’s not going to try to create the worst roster in the league. Gotta hope we get lucky.

They have load managed Horford a lot though. I think they want to tank. They just have too much shame to go full process sixers. Also trying to keep SGA bought in. It's a tough balance.

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The problem is they still win when they've rested guys. Like you said, it's a balancing act because of having Shai and a coach that is trying to develop players. I'm just ready for the lottery to know where we are picking. I don't mind watching this team play but in some ways its as stressful as winning.

I don't think SGA would care that much to sit 10-15 games but it's a very bad look towards our other young players.

It's also not worth tanking like the Sixers did with the new lottery odds but yeah it would be important to have at least a worse record than Houston & Sacramento in the West.

Our schedule is pretty easy in March. I wouldn't mind if SGA underperform or have a minor injury.

[No-Man]

I feel pretty good about my top3 tiers

Cade Cunningham

Jalen Suggs
Evan Mobley
Jalen Green

Jonathan Kuminga
Keon Johnson
Moses Moody
Ziaire Williams
James Bouknight
Kai Jones
Franz Wagner
Bennedict Mathurin
Jaden Springer
Santi Aldama
Corey Kispert
Alperen Şengün

[ThunderBolt]

I feel pretty good about my top3 tiers

Cade Cunningham

Jalen Suggs
Evan Mobley
Jalen Green

Jonathan Kuminga
Keon Johnson
Moses Moody
Ziaire Williams
James Bouknight
Kai Jones
Franz Wagner
Bennedict Mathurin
Jaden Springer
Santi Aldama
Corey Kispert
Alperen Şengün

What are your thoughts on Ziare Williams? Seems like a guy I want to like but hasn’t put up great numbers. Besides USC, I don’t see many west coast teams.

[ThunderBolt]

Something we haven’t talked about is if we do get a top five pick, we could trade up within the top five. I don’t think anyone will pass on Cade but if we get four or five, we could trade to two or three if there is a guy Presti really likes.