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Post#741 » by UnFadeable21 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 3:04 am

I’d take Lamelo Ball 10 outta 10 times over Anthony Edwards

Said it before the draft and will say it until the end of their careers.

Way higher basketball IQ, way better overall player.
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Post#742 » by winforlose » Thu Mar 4, 2021 3:22 am

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Calinks wrote:I don't know if I agree with the tanking notion either, I think it's really stupid to be tanking at this point. Rosas' job is on the line, I don't think he is getting fired this season but if this team continues to be miserable, and then we find up giving away the 3-4th pick and are still bad next season, it's over. I don't think he would tank and risk his career over trying to get lucky with a draft pick unless he thinks that's the only way he can improve this team and thus, save his job.


If we end up as the worst team in the NBA and that pick ends up to be out of the top-3 Rosas should be fired immediately. Or if he has some pride he should quit.

In a scenario like this and it would be official that Rosas made one of the worst trades in NBA history.

He should pray for those ping pong balls to be in his favor.


I disagree. The trade was made to keep Towns. Towns was getting more and more unhappy here and we knew we were trading Roco who was very close to KAT. We didn’t think we would be this bad, but so many factors went into that. Is it Rosas fault that Towns missed 20 games? Is it Rosas fault Ryan was our head coach, (I really want to know the answer to this one?) Is it Rosas fault Beasley got himself suspended or Dlo had injury issues this season? Is it Rosas fault that Culver regressed after a few games then got hurt a month into the season? We really haven’t seen this team healthy yet. We were 2-0 against good teams and then KAT went down. Rosas biggest sin is small ball, and that needs to end this season. If he is willing to move past it, he should be given another year regardless of the pick.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#743 » by Rookie-Mistake » Thu Mar 4, 2021 6:10 am

Can you assemble the list of posters who were keen on ant pls.

I'm with you brother, was in the ball/Wiseman group and got slammed for having this opinion.

Constantly smashed with nbl is poo, he is a ball, his father, his shot mechanics bla bla bla... where are these delusional Edwards fan boys?
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Post#744 » by Jedzz » Thu Mar 4, 2021 6:32 am

Calinks wrote:Certainly looks like Rosas screwed this up. Of course, Edwards still has a chance but the odds aren't good that he will grow past Lamello in the future, I just don't see anything right now that makes me feel that. Ball was very NBA-ready, his pro experience did wonders for him. I will also no longer underestimate professional experience, it seems to really give these guys a leg up, college ball is not the same especially when a guy has had only one year and been through the AAU circuit which is crap.

Very unfortunate that Rosas and his team couldn't identify this, his top-of-the-line talent evaluation has to be questioned as Culbver is a mother bad pick. They needed to nail this number 1 pick and it looks like they fluffed it. Just got to hope Rosas has the ability to repair a lot of the damage this team has in a short period of time. He has to or he is probably out the door in 18 months.


Let me ask you this. BTW I agree with much of what you are saying. But whatever the case for their choice, let me play out this hypothetical and you tell me if everyone would be a lot happier right now.

Everyone knew the team wanted to trade the pick. He didn't feel satisfied by offers to do it. But let's just say he had hypothetically.

Let's say he traded all the way down to 12th and chose Haliburton there and one return asset was Sac's 2021 FRP.
Or
Let's say he traded all the way down to 19th and chose Saddiq Bey there and one of the return assets was Piston's 2021 FRP.

Now this is a far distance to trade down so I don't know if he even entertained trading down that far. But moving this far down might easily get them a next year's FRP if that's what Rosas was asking for in the return assets for the trade. I don't really care about what else they could haggle into the deal. But right now in either of those cases they would have improved shooting and game IQ depth for this team and at the same time replaced a missing 2021 pick that GSW currently owns.

Haliburton: 6-5 G, 49% FG, 43% 3FG, 83% FT, 5 ASG, 2 stocks, 619 TS%
Saddiq Bey: 6-7 SF, 42% FG, 40% 3FG, 85% FT, 4 boards, .590 TS%

One of those two players from last draft plus at minimum a FRP for 2021. Would people be a lot calmer right now? Would the team have more wins? I think so. Would less people be freaking out that they don't have any guaranteed 2021 draft pick at the moment. Would the team felt like they had to tank the season so badly this year?

A Pistons or Sac pick wouldn't be so bad right now for '21.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#745 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 4, 2021 6:35 am

winforlose wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
Calinks wrote:I don't know if I agree with the tanking notion either, I think it's really stupid to be tanking at this point. Rosas' job is on the line, I don't think he is getting fired this season but if this team continues to be miserable, and then we find up giving away the 3-4th pick and are still bad next season, it's over. I don't think he would tank and risk his career over trying to get lucky with a draft pick unless he thinks that's the only way he can improve this team and thus, save his job.


If we end up as the worst team in the NBA and that pick ends up to be out of the top-3 Rosas should be fired immediately. Or if he has some pride he should quit.

In a scenario like this and it would be official that Rosas made one of the worst trades in NBA history.

He should pray for those ping pong balls to be in his favor.


I disagree. The trade was made to keep Towns. Towns was getting more and more unhappy here and we knew we were trading Roco who was very close to KAT. We didn’t think we would be this bad, but so many factors went into that. Is it Rosas fault that Towns missed 20 games? Is it Rosas fault Ryan was our head coach, (I really want to know the answer to this one?) Is it Rosas fault Beasley got himself suspended or Dlo had injury issues this season? Is it Rosas fault that Culver regressed after a few games then got hurt a month into the season? We really haven’t seen this team healthy yet. We were 2-0 against good teams and then KAT went down. Rosas biggest sin is small ball, and that needs to end this season. If he is willing to move past it, he should be given another year regardless of the pick.

To all of this i say.
Thank god the Suns didn't fall for the demand of Devin Booker to bring his bff Dlo last season. Instead they went for Rubio. Imagine where they would be with Dlo out there. Probably in the same situation as us.

But that is not even the point to begin.
The irresponsibility of that move is the worst for a really predictable bad team.

For me it took one pre season against Memphis, i won't forget... I saw the shity roster we had in that exactly moment and thought... Rosas must be kiddind to go to a must win season with this roster.

And Ryan, poor Ryan if you think he has some kind of responsibilitie to where we are now. He's just one more 'victim' of the worst franchise in the entire league.
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Post#746 » by UnFadeable21 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 6:59 am

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Is Edwards lazy as hell, clueless or just both?
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Post#747 » by Heimdal » Thu Mar 4, 2021 8:59 am

It's just impossible to have any kind of sustained success when a player with shooting %s that would embarrass Josh Okogie takes +20 shots/game:

Anthony Edwards in college
FG% .402
3P% .294

First 16 NBA games
FG% .344
3P% .274

Give him the green light. Give up on the season.

Last 7 NBA games
FG% .308
3P% .264

Josh Okogie's career %s are
FG% .397
3P% .267

All that while looking lost on defense. Very promising, indeed.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#748 » by Rookie-Mistake » Thu Mar 4, 2021 9:09 am

Dumb recruiting.. and they had ample amount of time to research, multiple first round picks and they still f***d it up.. good riddance
Heimdal wrote:It's just impossible to have any kind of sustained success when a player with shooting %s that would embarrass Josh Okogie takes +20 shots/game:

Anthony Edwards in college
FG% .402
3P% .294

First 16 NBA games
FG% .344
3P% .274

Give him the green light. Give up on the season.

Last 7 NBA games
FG% .308
3P% .264

Josh Okogie's career %s are
FG% .397
3P% .267

All that while looking lost on defense. Very promising, indeed.


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Post#749 » by winforlose » Thu Mar 4, 2021 10:23 am

mercgold3 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
If we end up as the worst team in the NBA and that pick ends up to be out of the top-3 Rosas should be fired immediately. Or if he has some pride he should quit.

In a scenario like this and it would be official that Rosas made one of the worst trades in NBA history.

He should pray for those ping pong balls to be in his favor.


I disagree. The trade was made to keep Towns. Towns was getting more and more unhappy here and we knew we were trading Roco who was very close to KAT. We didn’t think we would be this bad, but so many factors went into that. Is it Rosas fault that Towns missed 20 games? Is it Rosas fault Ryan was our head coach, (I really want to know the answer to this one?) Is it Rosas fault Beasley got himself suspended or Dlo had injury issues this season? Is it Rosas fault that Culver regressed after a few games then got hurt a month into the season? We really haven’t seen this team healthy yet. We were 2-0 against good teams and then KAT went down. Rosas biggest sin is small ball, and that needs to end this season. If he is willing to move past it, he should be given another year regardless of the pick.

To all of this i say.
Thank god the Suns didn't fall for the demand of Devin Booker to bring his bff Dlo last season. Instead they went for Rubio. Imagine where they would be with Dlo out there. Probably in the same situation as us.

But that is not even the point to begin.
The irresponsibility of that move is the worst for a really predictable bad team.

For me it took one pre season against Memphis, i won't forget... I saw the shity roster we had in that exactly moment and thought... Rosas must be kiddind to go to a must win season with this roster.

And Ryan, poor Ryan if you think he has some kind of responsibilitie to where we are now. He's just one more 'victim' of the worst franchise in the entire league.


If the Suns traded for Dlo and we traded away Roco, KAT would want to be in Phoenix. He was also close to Ryan and any move to replace him with a competent HC would have accelerated the KAT demands out phenomenon.

Looking beyond the KAT of it all I have a simple hypothetical for you. Assume the Wolves fall to 5 and GSW gets our pick. Then next year with a good system and some smart moves the wolves get to 8th. But, in the process, Dlo becomes a 20/10 with a positive net rating. At that point is the trade still bad?
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#750 » by Domejandro » Thu Mar 4, 2021 10:58 am

winforlose wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
I disagree. The trade was made to keep Towns. Towns was getting more and more unhappy here and we knew we were trading Roco who was very close to KAT. We didn’t think we would be this bad, but so many factors went into that. Is it Rosas fault that Towns missed 20 games? Is it Rosas fault Ryan was our head coach, (I really want to know the answer to this one?) Is it Rosas fault Beasley got himself suspended or Dlo had injury issues this season? Is it Rosas fault that Culver regressed after a few games then got hurt a month into the season? We really haven’t seen this team healthy yet. We were 2-0 against good teams and then KAT went down. Rosas biggest sin is small ball, and that needs to end this season. If he is willing to move past it, he should be given another year regardless of the pick.

To all of this i say.
Thank god the Suns didn't fall for the demand of Devin Booker to bring his bff Dlo last season. Instead they went for Rubio. Imagine where they would be with Dlo out there. Probably in the same situation as us.

But that is not even the point to begin.
The irresponsibility of that move is the worst for a really predictable bad team.

For me it took one pre season against Memphis, i won't forget... I saw the shity roster we had in that exactly moment and thought... Rosas must be kiddind to go to a must win season with this roster.

And Ryan, poor Ryan if you think he has some kind of responsibilitie to where we are now. He's just one more 'victim' of the worst franchise in the entire league.


If the Suns traded for Dlo and we traded away Roco, KAT would want to be in Phoenix. He was also close to Ryan and any move to replace him with a competent HC would have accelerated the KAT demands out phenomenon.

Looking beyond the KAT of it all I have a simple hypothetical for you. Assume the Wolves fall to 5 and GSW gets our pick. Then next year with a good system and some smart moves the wolves get to 8th. But, in the process, Dlo becomes a 20/10 with a positive net rating. At that point is the trade still bad?

In my opinion, this narrative feels a little silly, given that Towns was locked up for five seasons. I feel like this is reaching for a justification for this disaster, when the real answer is simple.... the team has bad talent evaluators at the top.
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Post#751 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 4, 2021 11:30 am

winforlose wrote:
If the Suns traded for Dlo and we traded away Roco, KAT would want to be in Phoenix. He was also close to Ryan and any move to replace him with a competent HC would have accelerated the KAT demands out phenomenon.

Looking beyond the KAT of it all I have a simple hypothetical for you. Assume the Wolves fall to 5 and GSW gets our pick. Then next year with a good system and some smart moves the wolves get to 8th. But, in the process, Dlo becomes a 20/10 with a positive net rating. At that point is the trade still bad?


Well, if that was the case then Devin Booker would want to be Minnesota. Is a bad idea to give this kind of power to the players. Especially players that didnt prove anything in this league. Anything at all...

YES, the trade would be really bad. For many reasons i already explained too many times.

At this point lets hope to get that pick and move on whithout Rosas i hope so.
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Post#752 » by winforlose » Thu Mar 4, 2021 11:41 am

Domejandro wrote:
winforlose wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:To all of this i say.
Thank god the Suns didn't fall for the demand of Devin Booker to bring his bff Dlo last season. Instead they went for Rubio. Imagine where they would be with Dlo out there. Probably in the same situation as us.

But that is not even the point to begin.
The irresponsibility of that move is the worst for a really predictable bad team.

For me it took one pre season against Memphis, i won't forget... I saw the shity roster we had in that exactly moment and thought... Rosas must be kiddind to go to a must win season with this roster.

And Ryan, poor Ryan if you think he has some kind of responsibilitie to where we are now. He's just one more 'victim' of the worst franchise in the entire league.


If the Suns traded for Dlo and we traded away Roco, KAT would want to be in Phoenix. He was also close to Ryan and any move to replace him with a competent HC would have accelerated the KAT demands out phenomenon.

Looking beyond the KAT of it all I have a simple hypothetical for you. Assume the Wolves fall to 5 and GSW gets our pick. Then next year with a good system and some smart moves the wolves get to 8th. But, in the process, Dlo becomes a 20/10 with a positive net rating. At that point is the trade still bad?

In my opinion, this narrative feels a little silly, given that Towns was locked up for five seasons. I feel like this is reaching for a justification for this disaster, when the real answer is simple.... the team has bad talent evaluators at the top.


The majority of the people here (myself included) celebrated dumping Wiggins contract. Dlo wasn’t a mystery, he had strengths and weaknesses just like any other PG. The only real buyers remorse comes from how badly we are doing this season. If the pick was 12th or 14th and we dumped Wiggins can you honestly tell me still feel this way?

I am the first to admit this season is an epic fail. I will also readily admit that Dlo disappointed and played a major role in it. That said, can you really say he is unfixable when he has only played 5 games with KAT? Can you really say his off ball numbers aren’t encouraging? Can you say his defense is so much worse than other scoring PGs, that no system can help him improve? Finally, can you really say at age of 25 we have seen his max ceiling? I think you guys need perspective when evaluating Dlo. Sure he is overpaid, but so was Wiggins.
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Post#753 » by _AIJ_ » Thu Mar 4, 2021 1:35 pm

Not Anthony Bennet bad but he is really bad!
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Post#754 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Mar 4, 2021 1:50 pm

winforlose wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
Calinks wrote:I don't know if I agree with the tanking notion either, I think it's really stupid to be tanking at this point. Rosas' job is on the line, I don't think he is getting fired this season but if this team continues to be miserable, and then we find up giving away the 3-4th pick and are still bad next season, it's over. I don't think he would tank and risk his career over trying to get lucky with a draft pick unless he thinks that's the only way he can improve this team and thus, save his job.


If we end up as the worst team in the NBA and that pick ends up to be out of the top-3 Rosas should be fired immediately. Or if he has some pride he should quit.

In a scenario like this and it would be official that Rosas made one of the worst trades in NBA history.

He should pray for those ping pong balls to be in his favor.


I disagree. The trade was made to keep Towns. Towns was getting more and more unhappy here and we knew we were trading Roco who was very close to KAT. We didn’t think we would be this bad, but so many factors went into that. Is it Rosas fault that Towns missed 20 games? Is it Rosas fault Ryan was our head coach, (I really want to know the answer to this one?) Is it Rosas fault Beasley got himself suspended or Dlo had injury issues this season? Is it Rosas fault that Culver regressed after a few games then got hurt a month into the season? We really haven’t seen this team healthy yet. We were 2-0 against good teams and then KAT went down. Rosas biggest sin is small ball, and that needs to end this season. If he is willing to move past it, he should be given another year regardless of the pick.




It wasn't the ONLY way to keep Towns.

It's fine that the Wolves went after Russell when he was a FA. But the moment he took that ridiculous helicopter ride with the Wolves for their pitch meeting... AFTER signing with Golden State... but did NOT tell the Wolves about it...

The pursuit should have ended.

That the Wolves still kept chasing the guy for months after he showed his true colors and couldn't man up and tell them himself he signed with the Warriors... Rosas should have known what kind of player/person he was. So instead, they keep waiting and waiting and end up paying infinitely more for that guy after he proved he was not wanted by yet another team.

Only the Timberwolves.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#755 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Mar 4, 2021 1:53 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:
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Is Edwards lazy as hell, clueless or just both?



To be fair, he had to save his energy for the last 10 seconds of the half.
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Post#756 » by winforlose » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:00 pm

AbeVigodaLive wrote:
winforlose wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
If we end up as the worst team in the NBA and that pick ends up to be out of the top-3 Rosas should be fired immediately. Or if he has some pride he should quit.

In a scenario like this and it would be official that Rosas made one of the worst trades in NBA history.

He should pray for those ping pong balls to be in his favor.


I disagree. The trade was made to keep Towns. Towns was getting more and more unhappy here and we knew we were trading Roco who was very close to KAT. We didn’t think we would be this bad, but so many factors went into that. Is it Rosas fault that Towns missed 20 games? Is it Rosas fault Ryan was our head coach, (I really want to know the answer to this one?) Is it Rosas fault Beasley got himself suspended or Dlo had injury issues this season? Is it Rosas fault that Culver regressed after a few games then got hurt a month into the season? We really haven’t seen this team healthy yet. We were 2-0 against good teams and then KAT went down. Rosas biggest sin is small ball, and that needs to end this season. If he is willing to move past it, he should be given another year regardless of the pick.




It wasn't the ONLY way to keep Towns.

It's fine that the Wolves went after Russell when he was a FA. But the moment he took that ridiculous helicopter ride with the Wolves for their pitch meeting... AFTER signing with Golden State... but did NOT tell the Wolves about it...

The pursuit should have ended.

That the Wolves still kept chasing the guy for months after he showed his true colors and couldn't man up and tell them himself he signed with the Warriors... Rosas should have known what kind of player/person he was. So instead, they keep waiting and waiting and end up paying infinitely more for that guy after he proved he was not wanted by yet another team.

Only the Timberwolves.


The wolves needed to move Wiggins to sign Dlo. No one knew how long that would take or what that would cost. Dlo meanwhile was a FA being offered a max as the money window was beginning to close (teams were making moves and spending their cap space.) Can you blame the guy for taking the money in front of him instead of the money that might be there for him a bit later? If that is your principle objection to Dlo then I would ask you to look at other players who fu**** over their actual team instead of their prospective team.

As for his play, I don’t see how you can be so down on him. You haven’t even seen him play with KAT. You haven’t seen him play with a real system. If you can say Ricky Rubio turned things around the last 3 years (I don’t and I don’t know if you do,) then you can leave open the possibility of improvement. The kid just turned 25 last month. You honestly don’t see how a combo PG/SG who can shoot from anywhere and has excellent numbers off the ball could be useful?
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Post#757 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:05 pm

winforlose wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
winforlose wrote:
I disagree. The trade was made to keep Towns. Towns was getting more and more unhappy here and we knew we were trading Roco who was very close to KAT. We didn’t think we would be this bad, but so many factors went into that. Is it Rosas fault that Towns missed 20 games? Is it Rosas fault Ryan was our head coach, (I really want to know the answer to this one?) Is it Rosas fault Beasley got himself suspended or Dlo had injury issues this season? Is it Rosas fault that Culver regressed after a few games then got hurt a month into the season? We really haven’t seen this team healthy yet. We were 2-0 against good teams and then KAT went down. Rosas biggest sin is small ball, and that needs to end this season. If he is willing to move past it, he should be given another year regardless of the pick.




It wasn't the ONLY way to keep Towns.

It's fine that the Wolves went after Russell when he was a FA. But the moment he took that ridiculous helicopter ride with the Wolves for their pitch meeting... AFTER signing with Golden State... but did NOT tell the Wolves about it...

The pursuit should have ended.

That the Wolves still kept chasing the guy for months after he showed his true colors and couldn't man up and tell them himself he signed with the Warriors... Rosas should have known what kind of player/person he was. So instead, they keep waiting and waiting and end up paying infinitely more for that guy after he proved he was not wanted by yet another team.

Only the Timberwolves.


The wolves needed to move Wiggins to sign Dlo. No one knew how long that would take or what that would cost. Dlo meanwhile was a FA being offered a max as the money window was beginning to close (teams were making moves and spending their cap space.) Can you blame the guy for taking the money in front of him instead of the money that might be there for him a bit later? If that is your principle objection to Dlo then I would ask you to look at other players who fu**** over their actual team instead of their prospective team.

As for his play, I don’t see how you can be so down on him. You haven’t even seen him play with KAT. You haven’t seen him play with a real system. If you can say Ricky Rubio turned things around the last 3 years (I don’t and I don’t know if you do,) then you can leave open the possibility of improvement. The kid just turned 25 last month. You honestly don’t see how a combo PG/SG who can shoot from anywhere and has excellent numbers off the ball could be useful?




1. I'm 100% fine with Russell signing with the Warriors. My point was that he STILL went on the Wolves PR pitch meeting after signing with the Warriors... never telling the Wolves that the pursuit was over. Why?

That's incredibly immature. Cowardly. Entitled. Et al. Yet the Wolves shrugged it off and kept pursuing him. It's yet another sign how the organization has had an accountability issue for a long time. The Wolves acted like a boyfriend... who took his lying, cheating girl back no questions asked.

2. I never said Russell wasn't useful. Everybody knew Wiggins had to go... it was the best thing for the organization, and maybe even more so for Wiggins. And it's unfortunate that Russell and Towns haven't played much together. They could do fine together. I have my reservations about Russell's style of play where he settles for tough mid-range shots and doesn't attack the basket... and his defense has been poor for his career. But he's not a bad player. He's very talented.

But if the Wolves lose this pick to GSW... or end up giving them a top pick in the 2022 draft... the trade is a bust. There's no other way to look at it. Even the best version of Russell isn't worth that much.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#758 » by winforlose » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:26 pm

AbeVigodaLive wrote:
winforlose wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:


It wasn't the ONLY way to keep Towns.

It's fine that the Wolves went after Russell when he was a FA. But the moment he took that ridiculous helicopter ride with the Wolves for their pitch meeting... AFTER signing with Golden State... but did NOT tell the Wolves about it...

The pursuit should have ended.

That the Wolves still kept chasing the guy for months after he showed his true colors and couldn't man up and tell them himself he signed with the Warriors... Rosas should have known what kind of player/person he was. So instead, they keep waiting and waiting and end up paying infinitely more for that guy after he proved he was not wanted by yet another team.

Only the Timberwolves.


The wolves needed to move Wiggins to sign Dlo. No one knew how long that would take or what that would cost. Dlo meanwhile was a FA being offered a max as the money window was beginning to close (teams were making moves and spending their cap space.) Can you blame the guy for taking the money in front of him instead of the money that might be there for him a bit later? If that is your principle objection to Dlo then I would ask you to look at other players who fu**** over their actual team instead of their prospective team.

As for his play, I don’t see how you can be so down on him. You haven’t even seen him play with KAT. You haven’t seen him play with a real system. If you can say Ricky Rubio turned things around the last 3 years (I don’t and I don’t know if you do,) then you can leave open the possibility of improvement. The kid just turned 25 last month. You honestly don’t see how a combo PG/SG who can shoot from anywhere and has excellent numbers off the ball could be useful?




1. I'm 100% fine with Russell signing with the Warriors. My point was that he STILL went on the Wolves PR pitch meeting after signing with the Warriors... never telling the Wolves that the pursuit was over. Why?

That's incredibly immature. Cowardly. Entitled. Et al. Yet the Wolves shrugged it off and kept pursuing him. It's yet another sign how the organization has had an accountability issue for a long time. The Wolves acted like a boyfriend... who took his lying, cheating girl back no questions asked.

2. I never said Russell wasn't useful. Everybody knew Wiggins had to go... it was the best thing for the organization, and maybe even more so for Wiggins. And it's unfortunate that Russell and Towns haven't played much together. They could do fine together. I have my reservations about Russell's style of play where he settles for tough mid-range shots and doesn't attack the basket... and his defense has been poor for his career. But he's not a bad player. He's very talented.

But if the Wolves lose this pick to GSW... or end up giving them a top pick in the 2022 draft... the trade is a bust. There's no other way to look at it. Even the best version of Russell isn't worth that much.


I think it was clear to Dlo that there was a chance he ends up with the wolves either way. He knew that he didn’t fit with the splash brothers and he knew that we wanted him to pair with KAT. I don’t know the specific timing of the recruitment situation, but I can understand wanting to try and make a good relationship with people who you might end up working with/for. I don’t object on principle to what Dlo did, but I will say if you are correct it was immature. Then again they guy was 23 at the time.

As for the value of Dlo, did anyone really think the Wolves would be this bad this year. Was it reasonable to assume everything that happened would happen to sink the season? If we had lost the 12th pick, or the 15th, pick, or the 18th pick would you still have a problem? I guess what pick would make the deal work is my question for you? Also, assume best case we keep the pick and draft a good or even great rookie. Do you really expect us to be this bad next season?
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#759 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:37 pm

The Wolves "took Russell on a helicopter ride over Los Angeles, before delivering him to a private locale for a recruitment presentation they’d been planning the previous month," Slater wrote. "On the helicopter trip back, good vibes in the air, news broke of Russell’s near agreement with the Warriors. Phones buzzed. The mood in the cabin changed. The rest of the date sounded quite uncomfortable."

1. I don't think you're following me here... I'm not blaming Russell... as much as the Wolves. Whether Russell was 23 or 33... doesn't matter... why would you mortgage your future for that type of guy? Accountability... from the Wolves. They keep proving that they lack it — and we've seen how that's translated throughout the organization and onto the court.

2. Trades are ultimately judged by results. The concern was always "but what if the pairing doesn't work... that pick could be good?" Well... here we are. The trade has not worked out. In the annals of history, the reasoning won't matter IF the Wolves lose a very high draft pick to the Warriors. The trade will be a bust.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#760 » by TheZachAttack » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:43 pm

Heimdal wrote:It's just impossible to have any kind of sustained success when a player with shooting %s that would embarrass Josh Okogie takes +20 shots/game:

Anthony Edwards in college
FG% .402
3P% .294

First 16 NBA games
FG% .344
3P% .274

Give him the green light. Give up on the season.

Last 7 NBA games
FG% .308
3P% .264

Josh Okogie's career %s are
FG% .397
3P% .267

All that while looking lost on defense. Very promising, indeed.


Edwards has been really inefficient, but if you cannot see the difference between Edwards/Okogie and their inefficiencies you're clueless.

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