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Trade Talk (Part Six)

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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#381 » by Norseman79 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 1:12 am

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb88emh4

Phi in: Lowry, Nowell
Out: Bradley, Maxie, Scott, Green

Tor in: Rubio, Culver, Maxey, Bradley
Out: Lowry, Anunoby

Min in: Green, Scott, Anunoby
Out: Rubio, Culver, Nowell

Phili gets their PG, and a nice potential shooter off the bench.
Toronto moves on from Lowry, adds prospects in Maxey, Culver, and Bradley that fill positions of need for them. While parting with OG may seem a stretch (and it is) 1. he is about to get expensive 2. He's had some injury issues. 3. Powell has been playing amazing.

Lowry
Curry
Harris
Simmons
Embiid

Tor
Rubio, Maxey
Van Fleet, Davis
Powell, Culver
Siakim, Boucher
Baynes, Bradley

Mn
DLo, JMac
Beasley, Edwards
Anunoby, Layman
Vanderbilt, Mcdaniels
Towns, Reid

Since they seem committed to this core, this helps balance roster and add another Beasley level player to lineup. If blowing it up isn't an option, this might be. If people feel Edwards needs to start, maybe Beasley for Gordon to fill it out.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#382 » by post0115 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 1:17 am

How about this 4 team trade

Mn out- Rubio
Mn in- pat beverly, kabengele

Lac in lowry
Lac out Beverly, kabengele, Morris

Tor in Rubio, Drummond
Tor out Haynes, Boucher, Lowry

Cavs in Morris, Boucher, Baynes
Cavs out Drummond
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#383 » by Norseman79 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 1:32 am

Norseman79 wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb88emh4

Phi in: Lowry, Nowell
Out: Bradley, Maxie, Scott, Green

Tor in: Rubio, Culver, Maxey, Bradley
Out: Lowry, Anunoby

Min in: Green, Scott, Anunoby
Out: Rubio, Culver, Nowell

Phili gets their PG, and a nice potential shooter off the bench.
Toronto moves on from Lowry, adds prospects in Maxey, Culver, and Bradley that fill positions of need for them. While parting with OG may seem a stretch (and it is) 1. he is about to get expensive 2. He's had some injury issues. 3. Powell has been playing amazing.

Lowry
Curry
Harris
Simmons
Embiid

Tor
Rubio, Maxey
Van Fleet, Davis
Powell, Culver
Siakim, Boucher
Baynes, Bradley

Mn
DLo, JMac
Beasley, Edwards
Anunoby, Layman
Vanderbilt, Mcdaniels
Towns, Reid

Since they seem committed to this core, this helps balance roster and add another Beasley level player to lineup. If blowing it up isn't an option, this might be. If people feel Edwards needs to start, maybe Beasley for Gordon to fill it out.


As a follow up I would offer Edwards and Juancho to Hawks for Collins and Snell.

DLo
Beasley
Anunoby
Collins
Towns

That should be able to compete in the west
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#384 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:36 am

Toronto isn't going to give up the 2 best players in the deal to get 4 worse players back.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#385 » by Big_Red1988 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:29 am

What's peoples thoughts about a trade with the Magic:

Hernangomez
Culver
Davis

for

Gordon

Seems to works on NBA trade machine
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#386 » by Jedzz » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:41 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Toronto isn't going to give up the 2 best players in the deal to get 4 worse players back.


Well they are in an unusual spot. Are they going to keep paying Lowry 30/yr to stay? He's ufa after this season. Maybe they are idk. Or maybe picks have to enter the equation to make them feel better about the two player moves. Maybee Edwards has to head there and a pick or two comes back this way.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#387 » by Jedzz » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:45 am

Hopefully the Wolves jump in and make some moves early in the month and not wait for those final day earth movers like last season.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#388 » by Jedzz » Thu Mar 4, 2021 6:53 am

Baseline81 wrote:
Jedzz wrote:I just heard a Vucevic interview and he described the season as knocked off it's original course due to injuries but that his play is up and so is others because they are fighting still to get to the playoffs, still emboldened by the play in this season, and talked about how they have won quite a bit the past two weeks and plan to keep that going. He talked about how playing for something is much better than not playing for anything. He believes they have something to play for even if it isn't a finals trip.

Despite what Vucevic said, the Magic have lost four games in a row (currently the 4th worst record in the NBA).


I believe I posted that on Sunday the 28th. They didn't have another game until Monday night. But I know you posted yours on March 2nd, Tuesday. Vuc mentioned the past two weeks of play as I echo'd his words in my post from the radio that day. In that prior two weeks the Magic were 4-3 and I believe that's the positivity he was carrying at the time. Sure they lost since on Monday to make it 4 in a row, and again on Wed to make it 5. So in three weeks time they will have went 4-5.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#389 » by Norseman79 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:23 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Toronto isn't going to give up the 2 best players in the deal to get 4 worse players back.



Obviously their would probably be a couple draft picks coming in as well. Include Mcdaniels too, why not?

Here's the thing, Anunoby is about to get spendy, they already have Van Fleet and Siakim getting paid, Powell has been playing great. Anunoby, while showing flashes, still isn't the type of player they need to pair with their roster given the expense. Hell offer Reid too for all I care.

Here's the thing, if you are going to commit to keeping Kat and trying to win, all the young guys and even draft picks are going to have to go. Reid is a nice prospect, but he's a backup on our roster, and we need a starting lineup before we worry about a backup one.

Anunoby and Collins could be had for pretty reasonable trade offers, but you will have to pay to keep them. However, if keeping Kat and competing in the west with Kat and DLo is your goal, that's the price.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#390 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:50 pm

Norseman79 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Toronto isn't going to give up the 2 best players in the deal to get 4 worse players back.



Obviously their would probably be a couple draft picks coming in as well. Include Mcdaniels too, why not?

Here's the thing, Anunoby is about to get spendy, they already have Van Fleet and Siakim getting paid, Powell has been playing great. Anunoby, while showing flashes, still isn't the type of player they need to pair with their roster given the expense. Hell offer Reid too for all I care.

Here's the thing, if you are going to commit to keeping Kat and trying to win, all the young guys and even draft picks are going to have to go. Reid is a nice prospect, but he's a backup on our roster, and we need a starting lineup before we worry about a backup one.

Anunoby and Collins could be had for pretty reasonable trade offers, but you will have to pay to keep them. However, if keeping Kat and competing in the west with Kat and DLo is your goal, that's the price.


OG is locked up for 4 years on a team friendly deal.

Sending bench fodder isnt a sweetener.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#391 » by SCTwins » Thu Mar 4, 2021 3:29 pm

Big_Red1988 wrote:What's peoples thoughts about a trade with the Magic:

Hernangomez
Culver
Davis

for

Gordon

Seems to works on NBA trade machine


I mean, yeah. But not sure why the Magic would want our trash.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#392 » by shrink » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:08 pm

I listened to Dunc’d On yesterday, and Eric Pincus was on. He predicted that MIN would trade Malik Beasley. MIN isn’t trading KAT, and they need the potential upside that Edwards might bring. Beasley is the only other piece that could provide incentive for MIN to make the changes they need. He also mentioned that he plays the same position as Edwards, and that it’s hard to think of him as a defensive pairing for DLo.

I think there is a lot of truth in this. I would mention an alternative though. I expect Ricky Rubio to get traded at the deadline. If part of the return is expiring, Rosas would get some flexibility under the lux, and I do not believe Taylor if going to pay lux taxes.

Still, we may see both players dealt. Trading Malik would suck. He’s hitting threes and maybe more importantly, wants to be here. But he wants to be a starter, and the defense is a real concern. My hope is that he doesn’t get traded at the deadline, and he shows some defensive chops that secures his position, and we roll with D’Lo, Malik, Edwards, ???, Towns.

The Wolves need a lot of help. They really need their youth to develop, to generate value internally. But that takes time, and people are demanding change, NOW, so Rosas may try a job-saving trade that includes Malik.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#393 » by IceManBK1 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:21 pm

Read on Twitter
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Well get it done.. I prefer Gordon over Collins. Fournier+Gordon please, Rosas make it happen!
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#394 » by UnFadeable21 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:23 pm

Shams says wolves gonna go after Aaron Gordon


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Minnesota has shown interest in power forwards around the league, including Atlanta’s John Collins and Orlando’s Aaron Gordon, sources said. Both players have significant asking prices in the marketplace. The Timberwolves had substantive conversations with the Magic on Gordon prior to his severe ankle sprain last month, sources said, and those talks are expected to resume as he nears his return to the floor.


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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#395 » by TheZachAttack » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:33 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:Shams says wolves gonna go after Aaron Gordon


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Minnesota has shown interest in power forwards around the league, including Atlanta’s John Collins and Orlando’s Aaron Gordon, sources said. Both players have significant asking prices in the marketplace. The Timberwolves had substantive conversations with the Magic on Gordon prior to his severe ankle sprain last month, sources said, and those talks are expected to resume as he nears his return to the floor.




Another move in the wrong direction. Collins would at least be overpaid but useful.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#396 » by IceManBK1 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:35 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:Shams says wolves gonna go after Aaron Gordon


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Minnesota has shown interest in power forwards around the league, including Atlanta’s John Collins and Orlando’s Aaron Gordon, sources said. Both players have significant asking prices in the marketplace. The Timberwolves had substantive conversations with the Magic on Gordon prior to his severe ankle sprain last month, sources said, and those talks are expected to resume as he nears his return to the floor.




If we can't get both Gordon and Fournier.. We get Gordon then trade Rubio for Thad Young or Taurean Prince.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#397 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:35 pm

Their only real tradeable assets are kat and ant. You can include beasley if the team doesnt care about the off court stuff. Wolves dont even have a pick to dangle in 2 stacked drafts unless a deal is struck for the player post draft.

Tough to see a deal that brings in a game changer.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#398 » by UnFadeable21 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:37 pm

Gordon makes 18 million

Juancho and Malik for AG works both teams and keeps them both under the luxury tax

Malik, Juancho, Culver, Okogie, Layman, Davis are all the assets the wolves can move
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#399 » by UnFadeable21 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:38 pm

TheZachAttack wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:Shams says wolves gonna go after Aaron Gordon


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Minnesota has shown interest in power forwards around the league, including Atlanta’s John Collins and Orlando’s Aaron Gordon, sources said. Both players have significant asking prices in the marketplace. The Timberwolves had substantive conversations with the Magic on Gordon prior to his severe ankle sprain last month, sources said, and those talks are expected to resume as he nears his return to the floor.




Another move in the wrong direction. Collins would at least be overpaid but useful.


Collins would be a free agent. No point trading for him when he wants the max

At least AG has two years remaining on his deal
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#400 » by Norseman79 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:40 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Toronto isn't going to give up the 2 best players in the deal to get 4 worse players back.



Obviously their would probably be a couple draft picks coming in as well. Include Mcdaniels too, why not?

Here's the thing, Anunoby is about to get spendy, they already have Van Fleet and Siakim getting paid, Powell has been playing great. Anunoby, while showing flashes, still isn't the type of player they need to pair with their roster given the expense. Hell offer Reid too for all I care.

Here's the thing, if you are going to commit to keeping Kat and trying to win, all the young guys and even draft picks are going to have to go. Reid is a nice prospect, but he's a backup on our roster, and we need a starting lineup before we worry about a backup one.

Anunoby and Collins could be had for pretty reasonable trade offers, but you will have to pay to keep them. However, if keeping Kat and competing in the west with Kat and DLo is your goal, that's the price.


OG is locked up for 4 years on a team friendly deal.

Sending bench fodder isnt a sweetener.


Point for you, I didn't realize that he had signed the extension.

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