[WOJ] Pistons and Blake Griffin agree to buyout *UPDATE 3/7 Agrees to Deal with Brooklyn...

[DirtyDez]

How does this work with his option?

[Black Jack]

I don't get the Nets fit, he overlaps the big 3s skillset. Nets need a big not another scorer.

He would have been perfect for Philly.

[poultryfan]

Blake made out like a bandit.

Only if he can get the full MLE from the Nets for this season and the next, in which case I'm still not sure it qualifies as a robbery considering he won't break even. Otherwise it's like he's giving up 8-10 million to play elsewhere assuming he gets vet min deals instead.

[cjx]

Blake is pulling a Harden, folks. When he joins the Nets, the hops and athletic ability will return. Harden dropped the "fat suit", Blake will drop the "physical decline suit". Durant needs to load up for Jokic and the Nuggets! LOL!!

[johanliebert]

Blake just needs a guard to set him up and he’ll surprise many. He never developed a post game or go to move..can’t manipulate doubles either.

Playing next to harden/kyrie will be huge for him.

[lamscott]

I hope he goes to the Nets. Blake is not the answer for us.

Blake would have a more crucial role on the Lakers. His playmaking would help a lot and he'd easily just take Markieffs minutes.

Not sure Blake is going to be better than Green on the Nets, at least for the role they want him to play. But he's good insurance and could be really good.

Lakers lose out here I think

We can easily offer him a starting role or a sixth man role and more money between the Taxpayers MLE or DPE.

He easily becomes the leader of the bench unit or the guy who opens the floor for the starting lineup.

Kyrie / Harden / Harris / KD / Griffin + Brown becomes a death lineup to close games.

Green comes off the bench again like he was expected to do coming into the season most likely.

Nets will still have to decide on Dinwiddie at the deadline in a trade and decide on a couple more open spots. Adding Griffin doesn’t change anything we’re trying to do but add a quality big that isn’t incompetent of playmaking like Drummond.

Fans thinking potentially adding Griffin is the only move to improve the roster will be sorely mistaken.

This is a monster team if Blake signs with the Nets. Barring injury, Lakers have no chance.

[HMFFL]

@ 31 years old Blake just needs to focus on team and personal success. Whatever makes Blake happy is what he needs to pursue going forward. He deserves it and overall I believe he handled the trade to Detroit very well. Yes, even if he didn't play much, but he still was positive, and not a cancer to my knowledge.

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[pr0gr4m]

Blake's a Trojan horse would love to see him start beef in Brooklyn lol

[JJ_PR]

Blake Griffin made 61 million in one day. I can't think of any better scenerio in any regard. Good for him!

[kamaze]

I don't get the Nets fit, he overlaps the big 3s skillset. Nets need a big not another scorer.

He would have been perfect for Philly.

We have $11 million in exceptions they can pay Blake AND get a center.

[DirtyDez]

Blake Griffin made 61 million in one day. I can't think of any better scenerio in any regard. Good for him!

He’s getting his full salary this year and next?

[kuclas]

I read on Reddit. Blake is giving up 13 million in guarantee money. No stretch provision

Assuming nets give him their 5.7 million injury exemption.

Blake is counting on getting paid at least 7 million for 2021-2022 season so he will be made whole

I told you guys. These nba players barely ever give up more guarantee money.

Look at all the buyouts. They mostly become whole again with secondary contracts they sign.

[h4rrison]

How does this work with his option?

Curious about this as well. So basically they paid him the full remaining MINUS 13m? So in theory, he can sign with a team this year and potentially next year for more salary?

He could end up making more money than his original contract lol. Am I reading that correctly?

[SashaTheMachine]

Blake is pulling a Harden, folks. When he joins the Nets, the hops and athletic ability will return. Harden dropped the "fat suit", Blake will drop the "physical decline suit". Durant needs to load up for Jokic and the Nuggets! LOL!!

CJ my man! Hope all is well with you!

[xdrta+]

How does this work with his option?

Curious about this as well. So basically they paid him the full remaining MINUS 13m? So in theory, he can sign with a team this year and potentially next year for more salary?

He could end up making more money than his original contract lol. Am I reading that correctly?

There is a set-off of his Detroit salary depending on how much he signs for with his new team. But yes, it is possible he could make slightly more between the two salaries. The Pistons can stretch the cap hit for his next year's salary over 3 years if they choose to.

[cupcakesnake]

I was shocked the first time I saw Blake play this year. His mobility was gone. In some situations he looked like a shorter, thiccer version of 39-year-old Dirk Nowitzki. A loose ball scramble, an turnover resulting in change of direction... he looked unable to move and sometimes seemed like he was just trying to avoid getting injured. He looked like bending or changing direction was a painful thing.

Stats back it up. 0 dunks on the years from one of the best run and jump athletes ever. Bigtime career-lows in block rate, rebounding-rate, free-throw rate. Usage not even in the same universe. Only 14% of his shots come from inside 3 feet (previous career low was 27%, and for his career it's 35%).

This version of Blake Griffin has zero ability to help an NBA contender. I don't understand why a team would sign him, unless it's a make-good rehab chance like Boogie on the Lakers last year. He can't play. It would be great if he got healthy and found a way to be a productive player in some capacity... but right now... yeah why would someone sign him?

I mean you're talking about a roster spot that would otherwise go to Iman Shumpert or Andre Roberson.

What is the downside exactly?

Its certainly possible that he was tanking his way out of Detroit and will become way better once motivated. We've literally seen other players do the same things. Ex: Vince Carter in Toronto

If hes that bad you just cut him or bench him.

It doesn't preclude you from signing other buyout guys either if need be.

Not sure what the Vince example has to do with this. Vince was a healthy 27-year-old. His immediate bounce back in NJ was a surprise, but his spiraling play in Toronto was a bit of a mystery and clearly a mental issue. Blake Griffin turns 32 in a couple weeks. He's been mostly injured for the better parts of the last 6 seasons. Despite that, I'd still maybe hold out hope for a Blake comeback if I hadn't watched him play this season. The man can't move. Can't jump. Can't change directions. Doesn't even run in straight lines with his normal form. It's only been getting worse the last 2 seasons.

Yeah pretty much give me Andre Roberson, Iman Shumpert, MKG, RHJ, I dunno... Blake Griffin is Boogie Cousins from 1 year ago or 2010 Tracy McGrady. His name is big but his game is gone.

To be clear, I'd be super happy if Blake somehow reversed this trajectory and balled out in Brooklyn. But it's wild to expect it. Like you say there's no downside, I'm just not sure how anyone who has watched Blake Griffin this year would think it makes sense to sign him. Also, even peak Blake doesn't help Brooklyn's backline defense, their only realy weakness

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I was shocked the first time I saw Blake play this year. His mobility was gone. In some situations he looked like a shorter, thiccer version of 39-year-old Dirk Nowitzki. A loose ball scramble, an turnover resulting in change of direction... he looked unable to move and sometimes seemed like he was just trying to avoid getting injured. He looked like bending or changing direction was a painful thing.

Stats back it up. 0 dunks on the years from one of the best run and jump athletes ever. Bigtime career-lows in block rate, rebounding-rate, free-throw rate. Usage not even in the same universe. Only 14% of his shots come from inside 3 feet (previous career low was 27%, and for his career it's 35%).

This version of Blake Griffin has zero ability to help an NBA contender. I don't understand why a team would sign him, unless it's a make-good rehab chance like Boogie on the Lakers last year. He can't play. It would be great if he got healthy and found a way to be a productive player in some capacity... but right now... yeah why would someone sign him?

I mean you're talking about a roster spot that would otherwise go to Iman Shumpert or Andre Roberson.

What is the downside exactly?

Its certainly possible that he was tanking his way out of Detroit and will become way better once motivated. We've literally seen other players do the same things. Ex: Vince Carter in Toronto

If hes that bad you just cut him or bench him.

It doesn't preclude you from signing other buyout guys either if need be.

Not sure what the Vince example has to do with this. Vince was a healthy 27-year-old. His immediate bounce back in NJ was a surprise, but his spiraling play in Toronto was a bit of a mystery and clearly a mental issue. Blake Griffin turns 32 in a couple weeks. He's been mostly injured for the better parts of the last 6 seasons. Despite that, I'd still maybe hold out hope for a Blake comeback if I hadn't watched him play this season. The man can't move. Can't jump. Can't change directions. Doesn't even run in straight lines with his normal form. It's only been getting worse the last 2 seasons.

Yeah pretty much give me Andre Roberson, Iman Shumpert, MKG, RHJ, I dunno... Blake Griffin is Boogie Cousins from 1 year ago or 2010 Tracy McGrady. His name is big but his game is gone.

To be clear, I'd be super happy if Blake somehow reversed this trajectory and balled out in Brooklyn. But it's wild to expect it. Like you say there's no downside, I'm just not sure how anyone who has watched Blake Griffin this year would think it makes sense to sign him. Also, even peak Blake doesn't help Brooklyn's backline defense, their only realy weakness

Andre Roberson and Iman Shumpert are basically useless anyway. Why not take the risk that Blake can play better?

How can you be so confident that he can't? He's literally had had good games this season. Far better than anything Roberson has shown.

Pretty hard to argue someone whos shown flashes like this is completely washed.

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[cupcakesnake]

I mean you're talking about a roster spot that would otherwise go to Iman Shumpert or Andre Roberson.

What is the downside exactly?

Its certainly possible that he was tanking his way out of Detroit and will become way better once motivated. We've literally seen other players do the same things. Ex: Vince Carter in Toronto

If hes that bad you just cut him or bench him.

It doesn't preclude you from signing other buyout guys either if need be.

Not sure what the Vince example has to do with this. Vince was a healthy 27-year-old. His immediate bounce back in NJ was a surprise, but his spiraling play in Toronto was a bit of a mystery and clearly a mental issue. Blake Griffin turns 32 in a couple weeks. He's been mostly injured for the better parts of the last 6 seasons. Despite that, I'd still maybe hold out hope for a Blake comeback if I hadn't watched him play this season. The man can't move. Can't jump. Can't change directions. Doesn't even run in straight lines with his normal form. It's only been getting worse the last 2 seasons.

Yeah pretty much give me Andre Roberson, Iman Shumpert, MKG, RHJ, I dunno... Blake Griffin is Boogie Cousins from 1 year ago or 2010 Tracy McGrady. His name is big but his game is gone.

To be clear, I'd be super happy if Blake somehow reversed this trajectory and balled out in Brooklyn. But it's wild to expect it. Like you say there's no downside, I'm just not sure how anyone who has watched Blake Griffin this year would think it makes sense to sign him. Also, even peak Blake doesn't help Brooklyn's backline defense, their only realy weakness

Andre Roberson and Iman Shumpert are basically useless anyway. Why not take the risk that Blake can play better?

How can you be so confident that he can't? He's literally had had good games this season. Far better than anything Roberson has shown.

Pretty hard to argue someone whos shown flashes like this is completely washed.

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I'm not arguing that this isn't a low-risk move. It's fine. Why not sign Blake for the minimum. It's not like this will prevent Brooklyn from signing someone else.

But I'm not sure what you're showing me in those highlights. He's had some good shooting nights (he's not a great shooter overall) and the man can still pass. But look at how he's moving. It's tough to watch.

Anyways, I'm over it. I don't want to continue to argue against the signing because I honestly do want Blake to find some healthier days. Blake having a big game in the playoffs would be cool.

[tmorgan]

Yeah, that’s the weird part. He’s an OK shooter and pretty good passer that can rebound a little because he’s a big body. His defense is now atrocious, because he just can’t move very quickly. There was a game winner by Tatum early in the year where he went around Blake as if he wasn’t even there.

He might give Brooklyn something, but it’s not gonna be what they really need.

[HMFFL]

Vincent Goodwill: Of the $13.3 million Blake Griffin gave up, $4.3 million will be applied to this year’s salary cap and $8.7 million will go to next season’s cap number, per sources

 

– via Twitter VinceGoodwill



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