#1 Pick

[The-Power]

For me personally, the question is rather how to rank the guys from 2 to 5 behind Cade. I think I've talked myself in and out of every single one of the remaining top 5 guys as my #2 – such a difficult group to rank.

[RookieStar]

Quick question, are there any more games the gleague will host so Green and Kuminga can showcase some more?

Because as it stands now with ncaat and all.. iys only cade suggs mobley that can raise their stocks in the top 5

the top5 is pretty much set at this point, most likely Cade #1 and then whatever combo of Mobley, Suggs, Green and Kuminga next depending on who you talk to

I know but what if you are Kuminga and people see you as the #5 but you wanna be #2 or even #1. Only way to do that is to let more people see you play more yes?

[clyde21]

Quick question, are there any more games the gleague will host so Green and Kuminga can showcase some more?

Because as it stands now with ncaat and all.. iys only cade suggs mobley that can raise their stocks in the top 5

the top5 is pretty much set at this point, most likely Cade #1 and then whatever combo of Mobley, Suggs, Green and Kuminga next depending on who you talk to

I know but what if you are Kuminga and people see you as the #5 but you wanna be #2 or even #1. Only way to do that is to let more people see you play more yes?

not necessarily, and they are gonna get more exposure in the team workouts and combine anyways.

[No-Man]

For me personally, the question is rather how to rank the guys from 2 to 5 behind Cade. I think I've talked myself in and out of every single one of the remaining top 5 guys as my #2 – such a difficult group to rank.

It's pretty easy imo, I don't get the issues

Suggs, then Mobley (close), then Green (close), gap, Kuminga/Keon/Moody

[clyde21]

For me personally, the question is rather how to rank the guys from 2 to 5 behind Cade. I think I've talked myself in and out of every single one of the remaining top 5 guys as my #2 – such a difficult group to rank.

It's pretty easy imo, I don't get the issues

Suggs, then Mobley (close), then Green (close), gap, Kuminga/Keon/Moody

you need to stop saying things are "easy" when you change your mind every week, two weeks ago you didn't even have Green in the tier 2.

[No-Man]

I've had Green 4th for a while now, since his 3rd G-League game, I don't update my rankings here all the time

[The-Power]

Maybe it's easy for you but don't pretend it has to be easy for everyone – especially when you yourself consider it ‘close’ between multiple guys.

[Sea2003]

Cade's gonna be the number one pick. 6'8 point forward who can shoot exceptionally well, pass, and defend? He's a lock for sure. However, I've been really impressed with Mobey. And that's coming from someone who had ranked 7 heading into the seeason Mobley's a 7'1 C that excels in every facet of the game. I don't think he has any glaring weakness( besides strength but that's usually the case for most prospects). His mobility on defense allows him to guard the 1-5( which is super rare for C). He has great vision and IQ. He's a solid low post guy and he has a great stroke. I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say he's probably the best C prospect since AD/Embild. I currently have both in their own tier right now. Hopefully, my thunder are able to get one of them

[EMG518]

I don't know how anyone thinks it is a lock. Taking him at 1 is going to be a mistake. It's either going to be Green or Mobley in my opinion.

[PhilBlackson]

I'm taking Cade.

I don't think anyone in the top 5 is going to be too disappointed.

[DCasey91]

Cade - Paul Pierce/Aggressive Hayward hybrid? Or a way more polished Barrett (though they have the same glaring weaknesses picks up from the stats but the eye test confirms it)

Mobley - Bosh/Davis Hybrid

Green - ???? comp is Kobe gun to my head some of his moves in the g league I swear it was him lol.

Cade is the safe pick same with Mobley (who I have number one)

Green is a slightly bigger unknown (not the best player right now) but if there was a superstar to come from this draft in five years time my money is on Green. Lord have mercy on the league when he fills out and hits his ceiling. But a more comparable comp Derozan with a 3 ball shot? That’s still one heck of a player.

[DowJones]

I would make it a top-6. I love Scottie Barnes. I think he could be a top-3 selection. He can literally guard 1-5, he can handle the ball a bit, he has perimeter skills, and his length is ridiculous. He also plays with an attitude on the court and by all accounts he is a good guy off the court.

[drob320]

Cade, Mobley, Suggs, Green in that order. Been liking Moody as well.

[Sactowndog]

I think it might be a time where need comes into play if you are a top 5 pick. All 5 are very strong.

[916fan]

I would make it a top-6. I love Scottie Barnes. I think he could be a top-3 selection. He can literally guard 1-5, he can handle the ball a bit, he has perimeter skills, and his length is ridiculous. He also plays with an attitude on the court and by all accounts he is a good guy off the court.

Barnes is so intriguing because of his size, athleticism, and skillset. 6'9 227lbs who flaunts defensive potential. I think it's becoming evident more and more that the NBA is valuing high IQ passers and play makers at non-PG positions. I was really cold on him initially because of his poor shooting ability, but you can't deny the talent. Looks to be a legit 2-way playmaker. I have him ranked somewhere 6-10.

[916fan]

Cade is the #1 prospect for me. 6'8 wing who can do everything on the floor. Shoot, dribble, pass, and defend. He looks every part a franchise player and someone you can easily build around because he has no real weakness to his game aside from turnovers. He can play on or off-ball. In today's league, he's the ideal franchise player.

Not to discredit Mobley who I have #2 or 3, but how many successful teams are built around bigs right now? In New Orleans, AD only made the playoffs in 2 out of 7 years. KAT will only be 1 out of 6 years after this season. Joel Embiid and Nikola Jokic have only been the successful bigs who have lead their team.

Let's look at recently drafted centers in the lotto:

2019 8th overall Jaxson Hayes: backup, raw
2018 1st overall Deandre Ayton: solid starter
2018 6th overall Mo Bamba: bust, raw
2018 7th overall Wendall Carter Jr: fringe starter
2017 10th overall Zach Collins: backup plagued by injuries
2017 14th overall Bam Adebayo: great starter
2016 9th overall Jakob Poeltl: bust, backup


I think the 2018 Luka vs. Ayton argument should dis-spell any Cade vs. Mobley debates. I would even point to LaMelo vs. Wiseman. It's just easier to build around and win with a perimeter wing in today's game.



honorable mentions for PFs who could be classified as centers by others:
2018 2nd overall Marvin Bagley: fringe starter
2018 4th overall Jaren Jackson Jr: good starter
2017 6th overall Jonathan Isaac: average starter
2017 7th overall Lauri Markkanen: good starter
2016 4th overall Dragen Bender: bust
2016 10th overall Thon Maker: bust

[EMG518]

Cade is the #1 prospect for me. 6'8 wing who can do everything on the floor. Shoot, dribble, pass, and defend. He looks every part a franchise player and someone you can easily build around because he has no real weakness to his game aside from turnovers. He can play on or off-ball. In today's league, he's the ideal franchise player.

Not to discredit Mobley who I have #2 or 3, but how many successful teams are built around bigs right now? In New Orleans, AD only made the playoffs in 2 out of 7 years. KAT will only be 1 out of 6 years after this season. Joel Embiid and Nikola Jokic have only been the successful bigs who have lead their team.

Let's look at recently drafted centers in the lotto:

2019 8th overall Jaxson Hayes: backup, raw
2018 1st overall Deandre Ayton: solid starter
2018 6th overall Mo Bamba: bust, raw
2018 7th overall Wendall Carter Jr: fringe starter
2017 10th overall Zach Collins: backup plagued by injuries
2017 14th overall Bam Adebayo: great starter
2016 9th overall Jakob Poeltl: bust, backup


I think the 2018 Luka vs. Ayton argument should dis-spell any Cade vs. Mobley debates. I would even point to LaMelo vs. Wiseman. It's just easier to build around and win with a perimeter wing in today's game.



honorable mentions for PFs who could be classified as centers by others:
2018 2nd overall Marvin Bagley: fringe starter
2018 4th overall Jaren Jackson Jr: good starter
2017 6th overall Jonathan Isaac: average starter
2017 7th overall Lauri Markkanen: good starter
2016 4th overall Dragen Bender: bust
2016 10th overall Thon Maker: bust

The thing is though, Mobley is a better prospect than all of those guys outside of AD and Embiid. There success or non success has no bearing on him. You could pick out a ton of busts at all positions if you want. Cade to me will never be a two way player like Mobley so he will always be limited. Mobley can be elite on defense and an efficient scorer on offense. Cade lacks the physical tools and athleticism to make any type of impact remotely close on defense and his offense is not necessarily more tailored to the league than Mobley. Mobley could be the better offensive player as well.

[pcbothwel]

I would make it a top-6. I love Scottie Barnes. I think he could be a top-3 selection. He can literally guard 1-5, he can handle the ball a bit, he has perimeter skills, and his length is ridiculous. He also plays with an attitude on the court and by all accounts he is a good guy off the court.

Barnes is so intriguing because of his size, athleticism, and skillset. 6'9 227lbs who flaunts defensive potential. I think it's becoming evident more and more that the NBA is valuing high IQ passers and play makers at non-PG positions. I was really cold on him initially because of his poor shooting ability, but you can't deny the talent. Looks to be a legit 2-way playmaker. I have him ranked somewhere 6-10.

I dont see it with Barnes. People want to see Draymond/Simmons, but I dont. He is intruiging, but there are some real concerns.
His shooting is atrocious right now and I dont see it improving much.
While he gathers assist, I dont see creativity or vision. I see hustle and making easy passes in transition. Still good, but not all assist are created equal.
Lastly, his rebounding and blocks are comparable to most shooting guards. For a guy with his size and activity, poor rebounding and shot blocking show a real lack of IQ/awareness/positioning.
Looking back at guys with his general size/skill with similar rebounding/shot blocking numbers: Cam Reddish, Kevin Knox, DJ Wilson, Taurean Prince, Sam Dekker, Justin Anderson, Rodney Hood, Shabazz Muhammad, Solomon Hill, etc.

If you need an ultra versatile defender and hope the shooting gets better, then draft Scottie Lewis in the 40's and save yourself the top 8 pick.
Again, I dont hate him as a prospect. But I think people are focusing on to much on his size, activity, assists, and defensive versatility and not enough on the entire package.

[916fan]

I would make it a top-6. I love Scottie Barnes. I think he could be a top-3 selection. He can literally guard 1-5, he can handle the ball a bit, he has perimeter skills, and his length is ridiculous. He also plays with an attitude on the court and by all accounts he is a good guy off the court.

Barnes is so intriguing because of his size, athleticism, and skillset. 6'9 227lbs who flaunts defensive potential. I think it's becoming evident more and more that the NBA is valuing high IQ passers and play makers at non-PG positions. I was really cold on him initially because of his poor shooting ability, but you can't deny the talent. Looks to be a legit 2-way playmaker. I have him ranked somewhere 6-10.

I dont see it with Barnes. People want to see Draymond/Simmons, but I dont. He is intruiging, but there are some real concerns.
His shooting is atrocious right now and I dont see it improving much.
While he gathers assist, I dont see creativity or vision. I see hustle and making easy passes in transition. Still good, but not all assist are created equal.
Lastly, his rebounding and blocks are comparable to most shooting guards. For a guy with his size and activity, poor rebounding and shot blocking show a real lack of IQ/awareness/positioning.
Looking back at guys with his general size/skill with similar rebounding/shot blocking numbers: Cam Reddish, Kevin Knox, DJ Wilson, Taurean Prince, Sam Dekker, Justin Anderson, Rodney Hood, Shabazz Muhammad, Solomon Hill, etc.

If you need an ultra versatile defender and hope the shooting gets better, then draft Scottie Lewis in the 40's and save yourself the top 8 pick.
Again, I dont hate him as a prospect. But I think people are focusing on to much on his size, activity, assists, and defensive versatility and not enough on the entire package.

You don't see creativity or vision in his assist? He's a very good passer. He averages 4.2apg in 24.9minutes. In 10 out of 21 games, he's had at least 5 assists. You can't just dismiss his passing ability. He has a 32.5% assist rate. None of those guys you've listed even come similar to his assist rate, although I know you only listed them for their rebounding and shotblocking.


FSU doesn't allow for big rebound numbers. In the last 5 years, they've only had 3 players who averaged more than 6rpg. So rebounding numbers are low across the board, plus he's guarding out in the perimeter.

So with Barnes at the very least, you have an athletic 6'8 227lb SF with a 7'2 wingspan who can switch on the perimeter and guard multiple positions. He's also a high IQ player who can handle the ball and pass.

Scottie Lewis is 6'5 189lbs with a 6'11 wingspan, how is that anywhere remotely close to Barnes' physical profile? Barnes has a much higher ceiling. He flashees potential all over the court. Just check out his UNC game where he didn't have a huge stat line, only 11pts 5rebs 4asts 2stls, but he proves to be a big time prospect int he NBA.

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[Klomp]

I think Cade has been done a disservice by OSU putting him at PG. He's not a PG at the next level imo, so that affects the perception people have of him.