dygaction wrote:The reason I asked is because if everyone is healthy, I have him right at 11 behind Jokic, Embiid, LeBron, Harden, Giannis, Luka, KD, Kawhi, AD, and Curry. In front of PG13, Irving, Butler, CP3, and Simmons.
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dygaction wrote:The reason I asked is because if everyone is healthy, I have him right at 11 behind Jokic, Embiid, LeBron, Harden, Giannis, Luka, KD, Kawhi, AD, and Curry. In front of PG13, Irving, Butler, CP3, and Simmons.
dygaction wrote:LukaTheGOAT wrote:dygaction wrote:Really? Paul George
Reg: 33.3 min 43.6 FG%, 38.4 3p%, 84.7 FT%, 6.4r, 3.4a, 2.6to, 20.1p
Post: 38.4 min 41.9 FG%, 35.6 3p%, 81.9 FT%, 7.1r, 3.8a, 3.1to, 20.1p
If you use per 100, or per min, EVERYTHING drops in playoffs except turnover. Maybe his last year dragged down the whole (89 games total) playoff stats .
Also here is Dame from 16-20 in the PS. I'll take my chances and pass
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My major concern for Dame is his drop in playoffs as mentioned in the op, but I think PG13's graph would be very similar.
LukaTheGOAT wrote:
I just made a post about George's PIPM being historically good during a certain span, so I doubt it.
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bondom34 wrote:LukaTheGOAT wrote:
I just made a post about George's PIPM being historically good during a certain span, so I doubt it.
Also FWIW, see the spoiler in my earlier post. Dame's dropoff has been generally bigger for box score metrics as well. I don't have access to PIPM/auPM.
But even using those years:
The PG playoff narrative is weird to me. He's been overall solid to good, but nobody remembers it. Dame's had memorable good moments but overall been worse, and its glossed over because of buzzer beaters. The argument for Lillard would tend to be regular season if anything.
And I don't know which of the two I'd take, but it's just weird.
LukaTheGOAT wrote:bondom34 wrote:LukaTheGOAT wrote:
I just made a post about George's PIPM being historically good during a certain span, so I doubt it.
Also FWIW, see the spoiler in my earlier post. Dame's dropoff has been generally bigger for box score metrics as well. I don't have access to PIPM/auPM.
But even using those years:
The PG playoff narrative is weird to me. He's been overall solid to good, but nobody remembers it. Dame's had memorable good moments but overall been worse, and its glossed over because of buzzer beaters. The argument for Lillard would tend to be regular season if anything.
And I don't know which of the two I'd take, but it's just weird.
I was referring to dygaction.
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bondom34 wrote:People are overreactionary.
Jimmy Butler's team has won a ton lately, he's less flashy and I'd say in the same general tier of guys. But most people seem to not really consider him. Lillard's a very weird case to me, he's fantastic but one of few stars in the league who's flaws generally seem to be glossed over. People remember stuff like last night, but don't remember the off nights, or remember the first round in 2019 but forget the Denver series, or the 2016 playoffs.
Aside, but this is an example of why I'd not trust the general forum for any substantiated opinions (not to downplay Lillard, but just reactionary stuff in general).
Second aside but holy moly Pelicans do you have some game management issues.
bondom34 wrote:People are overreactionary.
Jimmy Butler's team has won a ton lately, he's less flashy and I'd say in the same general tier of guys. But most people seem to not really consider him. Lillard's a very weird case to me, he's fantastic but one of few stars in the league who's flaws generally seem to be glossed over. People remember stuff like last night, but don't remember the off nights, or remember the first round in 2019 but forget the Denver series, or the 2016 playoffs.
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Texas Chuck wrote:
He's largely been a one man team. No disrespect to CJ or Nurkic, but those guys are nothing special. CJ has one season total of even league average efficiency and he's been the 2nd option for years now. So yeah in the playoffs against good teams, good defenses, and good coaching staffs, sometimes they will make life difficult for him. This is true of basically every offensive star. I mean look at Harden for instance.
But he's just so good and I really don't understand the arguments for guys like AD or Luka sorta being defaulted in above him. Based on what exactly?
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Vladimir777 wrote:He's right on the cusp. I'd probably put him over Luka and AD at this point, but that can change at anytime, and Luka will surely surpass him soon. I'd have my top ten as thus:
1.) LeBron
2.) Kevin Durant
3.) Giannis
4.) Nikola Jokic
5.) James Harden
6.) Steph Curry
7.) Kawhi Leonard
8.) Joel Embiid
9.) Luke Doncic (I know I said I'd put Luka under Dame above, but I changed my mind, LOL)
10.) Dame Lillard
11.) Anthony Davis (I value health and availability, so I think Dame is above him...realistically, I should probably move KD a few spaces back, due to this)
12.) Rudy Gobert
13.) Bradley Beal
14.) Jimmy Butler/PG13
15.) Chris Paul
16.) Kyrie Irving
17.) It starts getting hard to rank around here, but I'll throw some love to Zach Lavine, but this could be a ton of people
Pelly24 wrote:To me, the time for PG to be considered better than Dame or even as good ended a while ago. He's a significantly worse scorer (relies too much on his jumper, can't blow by good defenders) and he's shrunk in big moments a lot over the last couple of postseasons. Dame is flat-out a more dominant player.