"We Tried So Hard, and (Haven't) Got so Far, But in the End, It Doesn't Even Matter" Trade Thread

[djFan71]

Im now of the opinion of dont trade for Barnes. If the Kings want to keep him then **** em, let them keep him

They're going to have serious non-seller's remorse if Barnes is still on that team come November.

[Bleeding Green]

The Kings might have a better record than the Celtics in a few weeks.

[La Flame]

Jaylen for Lonzo? Jaylen Underappreciated Brown..

Adding Lonzo doesn’t mean that ball movement is suddenly contagious - it hasn’t been in New Orleans.. Ball whips the ball around in milliseconds already

Thats an awful trade..... even with Ball playing better thats an awful trade.

OG is a really good player too, a much better defender than Jaylen, and a legit knock down shooter from 3. Obviously Jaylen is the much better individual player, but OG is a damn good young player himself.

Ball/Smart/OG/Tatum/Theis or RW is better than our current team, IMO. As always, it comes down to how posters view Jaylen, and our current teams fit. I won’t argue with anyone who wouldn’t want to do it, but I also won’t argue with djFan and zoya, or anyone else who probably would do it. Also need to consider that you’re dumping Kemba’s contract as part of it.

If trading Jaylen, I’d rather take a chance on someone like Towns, but i understand why some would consider a move like this that upgrades our depth with two young players, who are really good themselves. I think the Hawks are another team where that would be feasible.

That team will have a haaaaard time scoring in the playoffs

[SmartWentCrazy]

Im now of the opinion of dont trade for Barnes. If the Kings want to keep him then **** em, let them keep him

They're going to have serious non-seller's remorse if Barnes is still on that team come November.

Same thing with Gordon. **** em. Our pick may be a lotto pick, sadly enough. And now you want Nesmith and/or Langford too? **** off. Keep him you **** losers.

[Ben-N1ce]

Ainge should stay pat. If one of Semi, Grant, Pritchard and Teague can get all Star level by the end of the year they can surprise people in the playoffs.

[Celts17Pride]

The Kings might have a better record than the Celtics in a few weeks.

So might 20 other teams.

[Celts17Pride]

Ainge should stay pat. If one of Semi, Grant, Pritchard and Teague can get all Star level by the end of the year they can surprise people in the playoffs.

Don't forget Carsen and Javonte.

[Feed Your Head]

Thats an awful trade..... even with Ball playing better thats an awful trade.

OG is a really good player too, a much better defender than Jaylen, and a legit knock down shooter from 3. Obviously Jaylen is the much better individual player, but OG is a damn good young player himself.

Ball/Smart/OG/Tatum/Theis or RW is better than our current team, IMO. As always, it comes down to how posters view Jaylen, and our current teams fit. I won’t argue with anyone who wouldn’t want to do it, but I also won’t argue with djFan and zoya, or anyone else who probably would do it. Also need to consider that you’re dumping Kemba’s contract as part of it.

If trading Jaylen, I’d rather take a chance on someone like Towns, but i understand why some would consider a move like this that upgrades our depth with two young players, who are really good themselves. I think the Hawks are another team where that would be feasible.

That team will have a haaaaard time scoring in the playoffs

This team has a hard time scoring lol, but yeah the offense clearly wouldn’t be the strength. Would be EXCELLENT defensively though.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Read on Twitter

This is the Celtics biggest issue this season. For whatever reason the Celtics have no desire to play defense this year. Celtics now 23rd in the league in defensive efficiency out of 30 teams.

Hard for me to blame Stevens for this since his teams have regularly been in the Top 10 to Top 5 every year but who knows. Celtics players act like they are entitled to me and no longer want to dig in and work but that’s my opinion.

Celtics defense has been a huge problem this year

I think the lack of practice, covid, and short off-season are all contributing factors to the Celtics right now. Last season, they came out with something to prove. But this year, they look like they are sleep-walking through the season.

Every single team is in the same boat. There is zero excuse for the product the Celtics are putting on the floor especially when they continually lose to some of the worst teams in the league.

[Celts17Pride]

I know this is the week for posturing around the NBA but it seems like all of Ainge's targets are drying up. Looks like Collins, Grant, Barnes and Vucevic are unlikely to be moved. Again take reports with a grain of salt.

Who is the next target? Growth from within?

[JHTruth]

Im now of the opinion of dont trade for Barnes. If the Kings want to keep him then **** em, let them keep him

They're going to have serious non-seller's remorse if Barnes is still on that team come November.

Same thing with Gordon. **** em. Our pick may be a lotto pick, sadly enough. And now you want Nesmith and/or Langford too? **** off. Keep him you **** losers.

Have no idea why people get so hot for Aaron Gordon. TS .526%, PER 14.7 .044 WS/48 .5 BPM. Dude is the definition of mediocrity. I guess if it doesn't cost you much he can replace Grant/Semi minutes.

Hasn't Celtic nation been dreaming up KAT trades on the trade machine for like 5 years now?

[Ben-N1ce]

I know this is the week for posturing around the NBA but it seems like all of Ainge's targets are drying up. Looks like Collins, Grant, Barnes and Vucevic are unlikely to be moved. Again take reports with a grain of salt.

Who is the next target? Growth from within?

" we where really close on a few deals but at the end of the day we couldn't agree "

[CeltsfaninDC]

I know this is the week for posturing around the NBA but it seems like all of Ainge's targets are drying up. Looks like Collins, Grant, Barnes and Vucevic are unlikely to be moved. Again take reports with a grain of salt.

Who is the next target? Growth from within?

and Ball wants to play for the Knicks so thats just a rental too.

[Bleeding Green]

Read on Twitter

This is the Celtics biggest issue this season. For whatever reason the Celtics have no desire to play defense this year. Celtics now 23rd in the league in defensive efficiency out of 30 teams.

Hard for me to blame Stevens for this since his teams have regularly been in the Top 10 to Top 5 every year but who knows. Celtics players act like they are entitled to me and no longer want to dig in and work but that’s my opinion.

Celtics defense has been a huge problem this year

I think the lack of practice, covid, and short off-season are all contributing factors to the Celtics right now. Last season, they came out with something to prove. But this year, they look like they are sleep-walking through the season.

Every single team is in the same boat. There is zero excuse for the product the Celtics are putting on the floor especially when they continually lose to some of the worst teams in the league.

The excuse is that young teams are going to be hurt more than experienced teams in a year like this where you can't practice much at all.

https://en.hispanosnba.com/teams/comparison

Celtics have the 8th youngest roster, 9th youngest rotation. Denver is the only younger team that is obviously better, and they started out very poorly, have maybe the MVP on their roster.

[JHTruth]

I know this is the week for posturing around the NBA but it seems like all of Ainge's targets are drying up. Looks like Collins, Grant, Barnes and Vucevic are unlikely to be moved. Again take reports with a grain of salt.

Who is the next target? Growth from within?

" we where really close on a few deals but at the end of the day we couldn't agree "

Danny and ownership have been saying they'll use the TPE in the offseason most likely. It would be far more surprising if they made a major deadline move than if they didn't.

[djFan71]

OG is a really good player too, a much better defender than Jaylen, and a legit knock down shooter from 3. Obviously Jaylen is the much better individual player, but OG is a damn good young player himself.

Ball/Smart/OG/Tatum/Theis or RW is better than our current team, IMO. As always, it comes down to how posters view Jaylen, and our current teams fit. I won’t argue with anyone who wouldn’t want to do it, but I also won’t argue with djFan and zoya, or anyone else who probably would do it. Also need to consider that you’re dumping Kemba’s contract as part of it.

If trading Jaylen, I’d rather take a chance on someone like Towns, but i understand why some would consider a move like this that upgrades our depth with two young players, who are really good themselves. I think the Hawks are another team where that would be feasible.

That team will have a haaaaard time scoring in the playoffs

This team has a hard time scoring lol, but yeah the offense clearly wouldn’t be the strength. Would be EXCELLENT defensively though.

Absolutely a concern, and you'd have to address it with other moves.

But.... Brad had the IT/AB/Jae/Horford crew scoring. Our offense used to be really good at generating open 3s, even last year at times. I think/hope that a guy like Lonzo would do what Al/Gordon did and provide that ball movement spark to open things up a little more. Tatum carries bench lineups now, and Rob stretches things vertically. Having that starting lineup could be better on offense than expected.

Ideally, you let Kemba go ham as 6th man (I think playing he & Jaylen together is diminishing returns, tbh).
Maybe Romeo/Nesmith show something on that end as well.

Or you get yourself a bench scorer.

[Feed Your Head]

Need a good (doesn’t even have to be good) rumor to get this thing to 100 pages tonight.

Maybe Froob can help out there.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I know this is the week for posturing around the NBA but it seems like all of Ainge's targets are drying up. Looks like Collins, Grant, Barnes and Vucevic are unlikely to be moved. Again take reports with a grain of salt.

Who is the next target? Growth from within?

If theres no liquidity in the market, we should be sellers.

[Celts17Pride]

I know this is the week for posturing around the NBA but it seems like all of Ainge's targets are drying up. Looks like Collins, Grant, Barnes and Vucevic are unlikely to be moved. Again take reports with a grain of salt.

Who is the next target? Growth from within?

" we where really close on a few deals but at the end of the day we couldn't agree "

Danny and ownership have been saying they'll use the TPE in the offseason most likely. It would be far more surprising if they made a major deadline move than if they didn't.

The only reason they are saying this is to give the organization some cover in case they can't complete a deal by March 25th.

[Celts17Pride]

I know this is the week for posturing around the NBA but it seems like all of Ainge's targets are drying up. Looks like Collins, Grant, Barnes and Vucevic are unlikely to be moved. Again take reports with a grain of salt.

Who is the next target? Growth from within?

If theres no liquidity in the market, we should be sellers.

Sell Kemba. I agree.