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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#601 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:27 pm

CaPiTanAK wrote:If you want Lonzo, you need to throw the max out there. That will make the Pelicans think twice. They're a small market team, so they will think twice about having three max's on their team with a fringe playoff team. But then again, it's kind of pointless to look down on a small market team when mom and pop Reinsdork has been operating this team like a bottom 5 small market when it comes to budget.


AK should be fired if he even considered offering Lonzo Ball a max contract.
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#602 » by Cabbage bulls » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:09 am

Max Lonzo Ball. You have to do it.
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#603 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:13 am

Cabbage bulls wrote:Max Lonzo Ball. You have to do it.


Please be joking. Lonzo Ball is a role player.
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#604 » by Cabbage bulls » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:22 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
Cabbage bulls wrote:Max Lonzo Ball. You have to do it.


Please be joking. Lonzo Ball is a role player.

You're right. It would be a bad contract, realistically. I'm just desperate for additional talent and an actual PG, and this upcoming free agency is trash. He's the best option and will likely get overpaid.
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#605 » by BullChit » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:43 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
Cabbage bulls wrote:Max Lonzo Ball. You have to do it.


Please be joking. Lonzo Ball is a role player.
The problem for Chicago is that we always want value contracts for value players bit value in today's league is only ever accidental..

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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#606 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:25 am

BullChit wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Cabbage bulls wrote:Max Lonzo Ball. You have to do it.


Please be joking. Lonzo Ball is a role player.
The problem for Chicago is that we always want value contracts for value players bit value in today's league is only ever accidental..

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No one is paying Ball a max contract. $20 million per would be the absolute upper limit for me. New Orleans probably won’t match a deal that high. I don’t want value contract. I just don’t want an albatross contract. Same applies to Lauri.
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#607 » by ZOMG » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:46 am

Once again - not to take anything away from Lonzo's improved ability to make spot up jumpers, but he's playing in an offense where he's an afterthought. Defenses have their hands full with Zion and Ingram, so Lonzo can chill at the perimeter and wait for the ball to find its way back to him.

He most definitely isn't a playmaker anymore for the Pels. I think he's looking for a more on-ball role, but the team that gives that to him may be in for a shock. IMO this is how he should be used, not as some floor general.
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#608 » by bearadonisdna » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:06 am

FA pointguards aint bare.
UFA:
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kyle lowry
victor oladipo
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#609 » by sco » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:31 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:FA pointguards aint bare.
UFA:
mike conley
kyle lowry
victor oladipo

Lowry may be there, but IMO, Conley stays put and Dipo (who I'd try to trade for now) isn't a PG (but I'd still take him and let Zach be PG).
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#611 » by CaPiTanAK » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:32 pm

Can’t wait to see the moves made around the league and the execution vs inactive Paxson Jr
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#612 » by imagge » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:18 pm

CaPiTanAK wrote:Can’t wait to see the moves made around the league and the execution vs inactive Paxson Jr



The man has only been here less than a season and not making moves right away qualifies him for being inactive? The Spurs have never made an in season trade until now if they trade Aldridge yet they have been one of the best organizations around....we need to chill sometimes with the overreactions :D
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#613 » by TheFinishSniper » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:25 pm

imagge wrote:
CaPiTanAK wrote:Can’t wait to see the moves made around the league and the execution vs inactive Paxson Jr



The man has only been here less than a season and not making moves right away qualifies him for being inactive? The Spurs have never made an in season trade until now if they trade Aldridge yet they have been one of the best organizations around....we need to chill sometimes with the overreactions :D

Pistons new GM changed entire team in meantime. I dont want that, but I certainly dont want neither this crap I am watching from AK
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#614 » by imagge » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:37 pm

TheFinishSniper wrote:
imagge wrote:
CaPiTanAK wrote:Can’t wait to see the moves made around the league and the execution vs inactive Paxson Jr



The man has only been here less than a season and not making moves right away qualifies him for being inactive? The Spurs have never made an in season trade until now if they trade Aldridge yet they have been one of the best organizations around....we need to chill sometimes with the overreactions :D

Pistons new GM changed entire team in meantime. I dont want that, but I certainly dont want neither this crap I am watching from AK



That's my point would you rather be the Pistons or the Spurs, one strategy has clearly worked above the other...The Bulls had pieces, it is fair to the players and the organization to evaluate those pieces in its totality to ensure you make the right move....This summer everyone was getting antsy about the coach and clearly AK made the right choice. Pat Williams will take another couple of years to evaluate on if he was the right draft choice...This is a real franchise with real people, fit matters with other players, coaches and organization, so taking your time to determine the right moves to make are very different than just doing nothing. I would argue that Gar/Pax were to quick to make moves like the trading of Drose, Butler, the signing of Dwade and Rondo....I think longer evaluation and surveying the market could have netted better players and bigger packages
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#615 » by TheFinishSniper » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:57 pm

imagge wrote:
TheFinishSniper wrote:
imagge wrote:

The man has only been here less than a season and not making moves right away qualifies him for being inactive? The Spurs have never made an in season trade until now if they trade Aldridge yet they have been one of the best organizations around....we need to chill sometimes with the overreactions :D

Pistons new GM changed entire team in meantime. I dont want that, but I certainly dont want neither this crap I am watching from AK



That's my point would you rather be the Pistons or the Spurs, one strategy has clearly worked above the other...The Bulls had pieces, it is fair to the players and the organization to evaluate those pieces in its totality to ensure you make the right move....This summer everyone was getting antsy about the coach and clearly AK made the right choice. Pat Williams will take another couple of years to evaluate on if he was the right draft choice...This is a real franchise with real people, fit matters with other players, coaches and organization, so taking your time to determine the right moves to make are very different than just doing nothing. I would argue that Gar/Pax were to quick to make moves like the trading of Drose, Butler, the signing of Dwade and Rondo....I think longer evaluation and surveying the market could have netted better players and bigger packages

I dont want to be neither.
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#616 » by HouseOfLight » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:14 pm

TheFinishSniper wrote:
imagge wrote:
TheFinishSniper wrote:Pistons new GM changed entire team in meantime. I dont want that, but I certainly dont want neither this crap I am watching from AK



That's my point would you rather be the Pistons or the Spurs, one strategy has clearly worked above the other...The Bulls had pieces, it is fair to the players and the organization to evaluate those pieces in its totality to ensure you make the right move....This summer everyone was getting antsy about the coach and clearly AK made the right choice. Pat Williams will take another couple of years to evaluate on if he was the right draft choice...This is a real franchise with real people, fit matters with other players, coaches and organization, so taking your time to determine the right moves to make are very different than just doing nothing. I would argue that Gar/Pax were to quick to make moves like the trading of Drose, Butler, the signing of Dwade and Rondo....I think longer evaluation and surveying the market could have netted better players and bigger packages

I dont want to be neither.


lolwut. Is this serious? Wtf? Arturas & Marc have been two of the best executives in the league thus far. They rebuilt the Bulls entire organization & got one of the best coaches in the game lmfao. What exactly are they supposed to do right now? Trade whom? For whom? You don’t know what goes on in talks, people might not like anything the Bulls have to offer. You don’t just make random trades

The ‘Stones suck ****. All those trades & nothing to show for it, AND they bit on the Killian Hayes hype. Terrible team to bring up as an example of what to do

Also, that may be the only time in history anyone has said “I don’t want (insert random sports ‘chise here) to be like the Spurs”. Literally every single team in professional sports aspires to be like the Spurs. They’re arguably the most successful NBA franchise in modern history & have some of the best management in all of pro sports
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#617 » by CaPiTanAK » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:14 pm

Standing pat is always the wrong answer when you're a team desperately trying to make the playoff but failing to do so.
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#618 » by Cabbage bulls » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:24 pm

TheFinishSniper wrote:
imagge wrote:
TheFinishSniper wrote:Pistons new GM changed entire team in meantime. I dont want that, but I certainly dont want neither this crap I am watching from AK



That's my point would you rather be the Pistons or the Spurs, one strategy has clearly worked above the other...The Bulls had pieces, it is fair to the players and the organization to evaluate those pieces in its totality to ensure you make the right move....This summer everyone was getting antsy about the coach and clearly AK made the right choice. Pat Williams will take another couple of years to evaluate on if he was the right draft choice...This is a real franchise with real people, fit matters with other players, coaches and organization, so taking your time to determine the right moves to make are very different than just doing nothing. I would argue that Gar/Pax were to quick to make moves like the trading of Drose, Butler, the signing of Dwade and Rondo....I think longer evaluation and surveying the market could have netted better players and bigger packages

I dont want to be neither.

So you want to be one of the two?
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#619 » by TheFinishSniper » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:26 pm

Cabbage bulls wrote:So you want to be one of the two?

There is healthy point between being complete passive and fully agressive.
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Re: Bulls interested in trading for Lonzo? 

Post#620 » by Kukoc-Lauri » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:40 pm

TheFinishSniper wrote:
imagge wrote:
TheFinishSniper wrote:Pistons new GM changed entire team in meantime. I dont want that, but I certainly dont want neither this crap I am watching from AK



That's my point would you rather be the Pistons or the Spurs, one strategy has clearly worked above the other...The Bulls had pieces, it is fair to the players and the organization to evaluate those pieces in its totality to ensure you make the right move....This summer everyone was getting antsy about the coach and clearly AK made the right choice. Pat Williams will take another couple of years to evaluate on if he was the right draft choice...This is a real franchise with real people, fit matters with other players, coaches and organization, so taking your time to determine the right moves to make are very different than just doing nothing. I would argue that Gar/Pax were to quick to make moves like the trading of Drose, Butler, the signing of Dwade and Rondo....I think longer evaluation and surveying the market could have netted better players and bigger packages

I dont want to be neither.

I want to be Okc. Find undrafted guys Dort,M.Brown, pump value of Paul,Horford labeled as bad contracts, find star with late lottery like SGA, aquire future draft picks. Be like Sam.

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