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Trade Talk (Part Six)

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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1121 » by Baseline81 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:12 pm

_AIJ_ wrote:I still think we will end up with Collins

I don't.

I imagine any moves will be to shuffle contracts or for future picks.
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Post#1122 » by UnFadeable21 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:14 pm

_AIJ_ wrote:I still think we will end up with Collins



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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1124 » by winforlose » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:59 pm

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Isn’t he the guy who said he wanted to play next to KAT
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1125 » by jpatrick » Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:23 pm

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_AIJ_ wrote:I still think we will end up with Collins



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Isn’t he the guy who said he wanted to play next to KAT


Lol. You can’t take anything Collins says seriously, about KAT or ATL. He wants to play where they will give him a max contract and enough shots so he can get a second max contract.
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Post#1126 » by winforlose » Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:39 pm

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Isn’t he the guy who said he wanted to play next to KAT


Lol. You can’t take anything Collins says seriously, about KAT or ATL. He wants to play where they will give him a max contract and enough shots so he can get a second max contract.


That’s kind of my point. If you say you want to spend your career in A but also put out publicly that you want to be in B, why should anyone anywhere believe you?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1127 » by Calinks » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:05 pm

It's a tough spot to get any big-name player. The asking price is really high and we may not want to sell one of our assets for a so-so return. Beasley is very tradable but again, he has a ton of value to our team right now. Gordon is a guy who maybe brings us more value, so maybe we do that but a move like Collins involving Beasley is a gamble IMO.

Collins seems like a really good fit but paying him a max (or at the least a contract much higher than Beasley's) seems like a bad idea if we got Russell and Towns under max deals. We can't bring in any more max players and it may be hard to move Collins or Russell in the future.

Also the chance that Collins walks, then we lose out big on the value scale as we have up a pure shooter/scorer that we really need and maybe other assets.

I could see some low level guys shifting around. Like another Jauncho like trade where we bring in an under-the-radar PF and hope they fit in well. Don't think a big move is happening but could see a small one involving fringe guys.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1128 » by Calinks » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:11 pm

Also a few days ago I heard that the Wolves have been asking about damn near every PF in the league. We are looking hard, it's not just Gordon or Collins.
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Post#1129 » by winforlose » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:15 pm

Calinks wrote:It's a tough spot to get any big-name player. The asking price is really high and we may not want to sell one of our assets for a so-so return. Beasley is very tradable but again, he has a ton of value to our team right now. Gordon is a guy who maybe brings us more value, so maybe we do that but a move like Collins involving Beasley is a gamble IMO.

Collins seems like a really good fit but paying him a max (or at the least a contract much higher than Beasley's) seems like a bad idea if we got Russell and Towns under max deals. We can't bring in any more max players and it may be hard to move Collins or Russell in the future.

Also the chance that Collins walks, then we lose out big on the value scale as we have up a pure shooter/scorer that we really need and maybe other assets.

I could see some low level guys shifting around. Like another Jauncho like trade where we bring in an under-the-radar PF and hope they fit in well. Don't think a big move is happening but could see a small one involving fringe guys.


Rosas might have a questionable history at the top of the draft but he has an eye for talent elsewhere. He saw Beasley and moved to get him. I wonder if there is another similar player who is being underutilized who Rosas might trade for. The good news is we don’t have to wait long to find out.

One other thing to consider. While trading now and helping to develop chemistry during meaningless games is valuable, knowing if you get your draft pick next year is also valuable. Moving Ricky has more value now, but others moves might wait until after the lottery.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1130 » by Neeva » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:47 pm

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Calinks wrote:It's a tough spot to get any big-name player. The asking price is really high and we may not want to sell one of our assets for a so-so return. Beasley is very tradable but again, he has a ton of value to our team right now. Gordon is a guy who maybe brings us more value, so maybe we do that but a move like Collins involving Beasley is a gamble IMO.

Collins seems like a really good fit but paying him a max (or at the least a contract much higher than Beasley's) seems like a bad idea if we got Russell and Towns under max deals. We can't bring in any more max players and it may be hard to move Collins or Russell in the future.

Also the chance that Collins walks, then we lose out big on the value scale as we have up a pure shooter/scorer that we really need and maybe other assets.

I could see some low level guys shifting around. Like another Jauncho like trade where we bring in an under-the-radar PF and hope they fit in well. Don't think a big move is happening but could see a small one involving fringe guys.


Rosas might have a questionable history at the top of the draft but he has an eye for talent elsewhere. He saw Beasley and moved to get him. I wonder if there is another similar player who is being underutilized who Rosas might trade for. The good news is we don’t have to wait long to find out.

One other thing to consider. While trading now and helping to develop chemistry during meaningless games is valuable, knowing if you get your draft pick next year is also valuable. Moving Ricky has more value now, but others moves might wait until after the lottery.


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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1131 » by Klomp » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:48 pm

_AIJ_ wrote:I still think we will end up with Collins

Yeah the Collins front is eerily quiet
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1132 » by winforlose » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:56 pm

Neeva wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Calinks wrote:It's a tough spot to get any big-name player. The asking price is really high and we may not want to sell one of our assets for a so-so return. Beasley is very tradable but again, he has a ton of value to our team right now. Gordon is a guy who maybe brings us more value, so maybe we do that but a move like Collins involving Beasley is a gamble IMO.

Collins seems like a really good fit but paying him a max (or at the least a contract much higher than Beasley's) seems like a bad idea if we got Russell and Towns under max deals. We can't bring in any more max players and it may be hard to move Collins or Russell in the future.

Also the chance that Collins walks, then we lose out big on the value scale as we have up a pure shooter/scorer that we really need and maybe other assets.

I could see some low level guys shifting around. Like another Jauncho like trade where we bring in an under-the-radar PF and hope they fit in well. Don't think a big move is happening but could see a small one involving fringe guys.


Rosas might have a questionable history at the top of the draft but he has an eye for talent elsewhere. He saw Beasley and moved to get him. I wonder if there is another similar player who is being underutilized who Rosas might trade for. The good news is we don’t have to wait long to find out.

One other thing to consider. While trading now and helping to develop chemistry during meaningless games is valuable, knowing if you get your draft pick next year is also valuable. Moving Ricky has more value now, but others moves might wait until after the lottery.


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Not sure yet. Rosas is the one who has to believe in the player. I guess we will know tomorrow.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1133 » by SmokeyPaw » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:57 pm

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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1134 » by jpatrick » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:17 pm

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_AIJ_ wrote:I still think we will end up with Collins

Yeah the Collins front is eerily quiet


Woj flat out said they are not moving him today on the ESPN special.
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Post#1135 » by Baseline81 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:21 pm

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Post#1136 » by ChiefKeith91 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:37 pm

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This shouldn’t couldn’t as a surprise to anyone. The core of him KAT and Ant doesn’t have enough sample size yet.


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Post#1137 » by NebWolvesFan » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:40 pm

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This shouldn’t couldn’t as a surprise to anyone. The core of him KAT and Ant doesn’t have enough sample size yet.


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I do wonder if Minnesota is laying some groundwork for a Dlo trade if the Timberwolves win the lottery and plan to draft Cade.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1138 » by IceManBK1 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:41 pm

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This shouldn’t couldn’t as a surprise to anyone. The core of him KAT and Ant doesn’t have enough sample size yet.


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They didn't say wouldn't trade Beasley... We might have to add a 1st rder to get Gordon or Collins. If only we can flip Rubio or Culver for a 1st.
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Post#1139 » by Dual » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:42 pm

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Post#1140 » by Baseline81 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:50 pm

Better not trade McDaniels.
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