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Post#181 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:35 pm

Whiskey Slick wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I'm going to be blunt. James Harden shows up for this team every night. Kyrie takes time off, and KD has been plagued by injury and covid foolishness.

James Harden is the leader of this team and he will lead us to the championship. Respect him and love him

Agreed. I shudder to think where we would be without that Harden trade, considering the length of time we lost KD and Kyrie essentially having a license to go AWOL anytime he feels like it, and he's not shy about using if not abusing the privilege. THANK GOD for James Harden.

As I said elsewhere, if it's true that Bradley Beal can be had for the right price, I would offer the Wizards a one for one swap, Kyrie for Bradley Beal. I won't argue Beal has more talent and is the better player. Despite leading the league in scoring, IMO Kyrie is the better talent and player ... but Bradley Beal is a bit younger and an elite SG in his own right. That said, a wise man once said the most important "ability" in pro sports is "availability".

In that respect there's NO DOUBT Beal is the more reliable of the two.

Incidentally Beal had his best game of the season this year when he dropped 60 Points on the 76ers.


We need Kyrie/KD in the playoffs, not vs Portland on a random tuesday. Beal isnt close to Kyrie. Kyrie is a far superior player and has proven it on the biggest stages. as good a scorer as beal is, Kyrie is better. and Beal is much more of a chucker, lower IQ player, and while Kyrie is no rock on D, Beal is horrendous.

Kyrie is 4th ALL-TIME in NBA finals PPG. And he hit arguably the most clutch shot in NBA finals history. After dropping 40 points back to back to tie it at 3-3 when they were down 3-1. He is one of the biggest closer in the league who has proven that in the playoffs vs. elite defenders he can still score.

Trading for Beal significantly lowers our title chances. Trading Kyrie makes 0 sense. especially since we know he works well with both harden and KD already.

Bradley Beal, with Westbrook cant even lead their team to a 10th seed playin spot. thats not the guy you want to replace one of the best playoff ceiling raising guards in the league
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Post#182 » by MGrand15 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:46 pm

Prokorov wrote:"picked"

Life isnt that convienent when you get to pick and choose when family issues arise.


It's not even worth getting into this discussion again.
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Post#183 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:00 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Whiskey Slick wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I'm going to be blunt. James Harden shows up for this team every night. Kyrie takes time off, and KD has been plagued by injury and covid foolishness.

James Harden is the leader of this team and he will lead us to the championship. Respect him and love him

Agreed. I shudder to think where we would be without that Harden trade, considering the length of time we lost KD and Kyrie essentially having a license to go AWOL anytime he feels like it, and he's not shy about using if not abusing the privilege. THANK GOD for James Harden.

As I said elsewhere, if it's true that Bradley Beal can be had for the right price, I would offer the Wizards a one for one swap, Kyrie for Bradley Beal. I won't argue Beal has more talent and is the better player. Despite leading the league in scoring, IMO Kyrie is the better talent and player ... but Bradley Beal is a bit younger and an elite SG in his own right. That said, a wise man once said the most important "ability" in pro sports is "availability".

In that respect there's NO DOUBT Beal is the more reliable of the two.

Incidentally Beal had his best game of the season this year when he dropped 60 Points on the 76ers.


I'm not interested in trading Kyrie, nor am I going to question his absence. He had to attend to a family matter, and I am fine with that explanation.

However, availability is everything in life, not just basketball, and right now, James Harden has always been available while our other 2 stars have not been, regardless of the circumstances. The Harden trade in hindsight is the difference between the Nets being a top 4 team in the league and a middle of the pack club.

I'm not trying to be unfair to KD and Kyrie, I am just being honest. Harden is available every night and is carrying this team to victory night after night playing a heavy load. We need to get Kyrie and KD back on the floor ASAP to prevent Harden from breaking down.


But we knew this coming in... if you go back to the harden trade thread, this was the #1 reason i listed that the trade is a no brainer. Harden is an iron man and Kyrie/KD are gonna miss 15-20 games a year.

Regular season wins are important. but to win a title you need elite players healthy when it counts. The Raptors were carried by lowry/Siakim in the regular season while Kawhii missed 14 games for maintenance. In the playoffs, Kawhi turned into Michael Jordan, was fresh, rested, and focus and carried them to a title.

We have seen the Cavs lose titles cause Kyrie was out
We have seen the GSW lose a title cause KD was out

We have seen Kyrie play a MASSIVE role in winning a title, including super clutch 4th quarter play
We have seen KD play a MASSIVE role in winning a title. including super clutch 4th quarter play

Its been said perfectly by a few people in a few places. Harden is this teams floor raisers. he will prevent us from being anything less then a 1-2 seed. KD/Kyrie are our ceiling raisers. if we want to win a title, we need those guys healthy and fresh
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Post#184 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:02 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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MrDollarBills wrote:Last night was Claxton's best performance on the boards I feel like. He was hauling in everything.

When I posted that poll asking who would be the better Center in two years, Claxton or Allen, Jarrett Allen won convincingly. I wonder how that same poll would look if I posted it now instead of a few weeks ago?

I don't know if Claxton will be an All-Star in his prime, but it wouldn't surprise me.

However with all due respect to Allen, I would be surprised if he's ever an All-Star.


well, Claxton is off to a good start. He just needs to stay healthy and we can revisit the conversation :D


Yeah, and he doesnt need to be better then allen to be really good and important part of this team.

Allen has had some mosnter games vs cleveland and seems to get up to play top players. he has had a couple 25+/15+/3+ games recently. and he has gone toe to toe with some beasts this year and come out on top (Gobert/Jokic/Embiid)
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Post#185 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:04 pm

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Whiskey Slick wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I'm going to be blunt. James Harden shows up for this team every night. Kyrie takes time off, and KD has been plagued by injury and covid foolishness.

James Harden is the leader of this team and he will lead us to the championship. Respect him and love him

Agreed. I shudder to think where we would be without that Harden trade, considering the length of time we lost KD and Kyrie essentially having a license to go AWOL anytime he feels like it, and he's not shy about using if not abusing the privilege. THANK GOD for James Harden.

It's not only Harden carrying the load for us, imagine this season right now if he had went to the Sixers instead. They would be killing everyone and the media would be having an absolute field day.


This is a super underrated point. if he goes to philly, they are favorites in my mind. even with a healthy Kyrie/KD in the playoffs. it was an enormous add for us.

Similarly, id love to see Lowry anywhere but philly
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Post#186 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:09 pm

I didnt watch this one. trying to watch it now but it loses its luster once you know the result.

Watching second half brickfest for Lillard from three. that was huge for us. If lilards threes are not falling he is kind of blah. Where as Harden goes 0-7 from three but can dominate in like 5 other ways.

Shocked TLC didnt have 8 turnovers and 2 airballs. that was helpful too.

TJ quietly plays super solid ball. Blake seems smart enough to avoid being exposed for not being able to move very well. his IQ is off the charts. maybe a little passive on threes, but thats better then the other end of the spectrum.

Claxton like allen plays within his role. he gets his lobs and easy finsihes and is aggressive in spots that make sense. him and DJ give us a ton of that. watching other teams it underrated having a center who doesnt go Yolo with hook shots, mid range, or ill advised dribble drives
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Post#187 » by Papi_swav » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:33 pm

GTR11 wrote:
Whiskey Slick wrote:KING: The Beard
KNIGHT: Claxton & Uncle Jeff
JESTER: Kyrie (Picked the worst time to do this again, right after Nash admitted Harden can really use a blow.)

That said, after unexpectedly beating Portland in Portland, unexpected because we are so short-handed, I would just give Harden the night off verses Utah, COMPLETELY, and if we lose, we lose.

We can't kill this poor guy. If we can steal this game without him, great. If not, so be it.


Chill.

yea he's right. Kyrie is kinda selfish for just taking off games when he feel like, especially knowing Harden has been playing a bunch of minutes with no games off and he hurt his neck the other day. You gotta admit that's pretty selfish. How many family days does this guy get?
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Post#188 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:37 pm

Papi_swav wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
Whiskey Slick wrote:KING: The Beard
KNIGHT: Claxton & Uncle Jeff
JESTER: Kyrie (Picked the worst time to do this again, right after Nash admitted Harden can really use a blow.)

That said, after unexpectedly beating Portland in Portland, unexpected because we are so short-handed, I would just give Harden the night off verses Utah, COMPLETELY, and if we lose, we lose.

We can't kill this poor guy. If we can steal this game without him, great. If not, so be it.


Chill.

yea he's right. Kyrie is kinda selfish for just taking off games when he feel like, especially knowing Harden has been playing a bunch of minutes with no games off and he hurt his neck the other day. You gotta admit that's pretty selfish. How many family days does this guy get?


He gets as many as he needs.

Harden can sit whenever he/nash choose. The fix is harden sitting, not Kyrie ignoring a family issue.
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Post#189 » by Stone » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:51 pm

In regards to Kyrie, the only reason this superteam was possible to begin with is because Kyrie wanted to be here with the Nets.

Kyrie is a high maintenance player, he is like a Ferrari. Sometimes he needs needs some time in the shop for a proper tune up, so when he is out there going 150 MPH you be confidant there will be no break downs.

Enjoy it fellas, not everyone has a high performance vehicle and we have three. A Ferrari, a Lamborghini and some Tank-Bentley.
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Post#190 » by Papi_swav » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:20 pm

Prokorov wrote:
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Chill.

yea he's right. Kyrie is kinda selfish for just taking off games when he feel like, especially knowing Harden has been playing a bunch of minutes with no games off and he hurt his neck the other day. You gotta admit that's pretty selfish. How many family days does this guy get?


He gets as many as he needs.

Harden can sit whenever he/nash choose. The fix is harden sitting, not Kyrie ignoring a family issue.

No he does not get as many as he need, that's not how it suppose to be, if that's the case then he might as well just take the season off. Harden is a real leader, Kyrie isn't. Nobody else in the NBA gets to leave when they just feel like it, we need to stop babying this guy and call it like it is. Everybody has family and family issues, he isn't the only one in the world. He's just going to let Harden handle all the dirty work knowing Harden doesn't take any days off but Kyrie gets to whenever he needs to change his underwear.
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Post#191 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:27 pm

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Prokorov wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:yea he's right. Kyrie is kinda selfish for just taking off games when he feel like, especially knowing Harden has been playing a bunch of minutes with no games off and he hurt his neck the other day. You gotta admit that's pretty selfish. How many family days does this guy get?


He gets as many as he needs.

Harden can sit whenever he/nash choose. The fix is harden sitting, not Kyrie ignoring a family issue.

No he does not get as many as he need, that's not how it suppose to be, if that's the case then he might as well just take the season off. Harden is a real leader, Kyrie isn't. Nobody else in the NBA gets to leave when they just feel like it, we need to stop babying this guy and call it like it is. Everybody has family and family issues, he isn't the only one in the world. He's just going to let Harden handle all the dirty work knowing Harden doesn't take any days off but Kyrie gets to whenever he needs to change his underwear.


Yea, that is how it is supposed to be. Family and self care come first. period. Why should he take the season off if he doesnt need it? if he needs a day he takes a day if he needs a week he takes a week. All he needs to do is be transparent and open with the team and get their consent, which he has in both cases.

"harden is a real leader". you mean the guy who quit on his team and was out maskless at strip clubs while not playing games trying to force a trade? that leader?

And yeah, actually, everyone does get to just leave for family issues... at least since 1993 when the Family and Medical Leave act was passed by congress. and its even stronger in some states, that require minimum time off allowances for mental healthy, paternal/maternal leave, and other situations.

Kyrie has a family issue. the team has stated its an excused absence. thats it. period. he doesnt have to play because some random nets fan is mad he cant take days off work or doesnt want him to miss games.
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Post#192 » by Papi_swav » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:40 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
He gets as many as he needs.

Harden can sit whenever he/nash choose. The fix is harden sitting, not Kyrie ignoring a family issue.

No he does not get as many as he need, that's not how it suppose to be, if that's the case then he might as well just take the season off. Harden is a real leader, Kyrie isn't. Nobody else in the NBA gets to leave when they just feel like it, we need to stop babying this guy and call it like it is. Everybody has family and family issues, he isn't the only one in the world. He's just going to let Harden handle all the dirty work knowing Harden doesn't take any days off but Kyrie gets to whenever he needs to change his underwear.


Yea, that is how it is supposed to be. Family and self care come first. period. Why should he take the season off if he doesnt need it? if he needs a day he takes a day if he needs a week he takes a week. All he needs to do is be transparent and open with the team and get their consent, which he has in both cases.

"harden is a real leader". you mean the guy who quit on his team and was out maskless at strip clubs while not playing games trying to force a trade? that leader?

And yeah, actually, everyone does get to just leave for family issues... at least since 1993 when the Family and Medical Leave act was passed by congress. and its even stronger in some states, that require minimum time off allowances for mental healthy, paternal/maternal leave, and other situations.

Kyrie has a family issue. the team has stated its an excused absence. thats it. period. he doesnt have to play because some random nets fan is mad he cant take days off work or doesnt want him to miss games.

NO tf that isn't how it suppose to be. Why don't u go ahead and just take a month off at your job how about that? He should just donate those 3 checks for those 3 games. Nobody else in the NBA gets away with this but here u are babying him. He's about to set a trend now, now watch the next coming entitled spoiled stars just take off weeks whenever they feel like it. A bunch of overpaid cry babies in the NBA. He might need the whole season off the way he just takes games off.

Yes that same leader. That same leader also CARRIED a whole franchise for YEARS even after being exhausted and still didn't take no days off for "rest" of "family matters". Yes that very same leader. A guy that you can TRUST to be there when needed and you can trust to actually get his butt to a basketball game and do his job that he is paid millions for. Yes that same very leader that doesn't cry about the media being "pawns" and looking down on everybody like he is so above the flat earth. Yes that same leader, put some respect on his body.

Again, we had this argument already with the family and medical leave act blah blah blah. Some ppl can't afford to do that and some ppl don't want to deal with the annoyance that comes with it. Why can't u get that thru your rich spoiled head. Not everybody was born with a silver spoon like u and Kyrie.

Your paid to do your job, like everybody else in this world , period. Even Jordan said "you're paid to play 82 games". Make NBA players great again. Like I said nobody else in the NBA gets away with this BS not even Lebron. And here you are putting your cape on for what? because he's your favorite player on your favorite team? You have to keep it real with yourself. IDC who he is, when I see BS I call it out point blank. We're going to be in the middle of the playoffs on a championship run and watch him leave for "family matters" . And your going to be here capping for him again.
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Post#193 » by DarkXaero » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:45 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:also can we give some love to Jeff Green? Dude was a BEAST last night 20 pts 4rebs on 7-14 shooting. He has been a solid player all season long and doesn't get enough props.
He's one of our leaders, on and off the court. He gives us the veteran presence at vet min (along with really good production) that DJ can't give us at $10 mill/yr.
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Post#194 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:19 pm

Papi_swav wrote:NO tf that isn't how it suppose to be. Why don't u go ahead and just take a month off at your job how about that? He should just donate those 3 checks for those 3 games. Nobody else in the NBA gets away with this but here u are babying him. He's about to set a trend now, now watch the next coming entitled spoiled stars just take off weeks whenever they feel like it. A bunch of overpaid cry babies in the NBA. He might need the whole season off the way he just takes games off.


According to the United states, Congress, State and federal law, YES that is "tf" how it is supposed to be. I have unlimited PTO at my job, i can take whatever i want off. but if i didnt, and i had a family or mental health reason i could leave work and my employer could not fire me AND they would still have to pay me AND i could sue them if they tried to pressure me not to take that time or penalized me for it.

Taking time for family or mental health isnt "being spoiled". thats taking care of yourself, which everyone should do and congress in 1993 recognized everyone should do.

Why should he donate game checks for time that his team excused him for that he is entitled to? He does enough donating on his own anyway.

Yes that same leader. That same leader also CARRIED a whole franchise for YEARS even after being exhausted and still didn't take no days off for "rest" of "family matters". Yes that very same leader. A guy that you can TRUST to be there when needed and you can trust to actually get his butt to a basketball game and do his job that he is paid millions for. Yes that same very leader that doesn't cry about the media being "pawns" and looking down on everybody like he is so above the flat earth. Yes that same leader, put some respect on his body.


So Kyrie is a "spoiled crybaby" because he takes off for family matters. but harden is not "spoiled" for tanking games, not playing and going to strip clubs maskelss to force a trade? and he isnt spoiled because... he helped your team win games currently? would you feel he is "spoiled" if he forced his way from the nets?

the only "spoiled crybabies" is in here are ones crying that grown men dont ignore their families to help win a meaningless game.

Again, we had this argument already with the family and medical leave act blah blah blah. Some ppl can't afford to do that and some ppl don't want to deal with the annoyance that comes with it. Why can't u get that thru your rich spoiled head. Not everybody was born with a silver spoon like u and Kyrie.


IF you are a US citizen, you are entitled that time. if you let your employer bully you or you dont know how to obtain it, that isnt kyrie's problem. If you arent valuable enough at your job that isnt kyrie's problem. "silver spoon" i grew with a single parent mom who was 19 when she had me working 3 waitressing jobs so she could put food on the table for us in our broken down studio apartment in guttenberg. And you know what my hard ass working mom has to say about kyrie? "i wish more young people would take time to take care of their mental health. maybe there would be less ugliness if they did?

Your paid to do your job, like everybody else in this world , period. Even Jordan said "you're paid to play 82 games". Make NBA players great again. Like I said nobody else in the NBA gets away with this BS not even Lebron. And here you are putting your cape on for what? because he's your favorite player on your favorite team? You have to keep it real with yourself. IDC who he is, when I see BS I call it out point blank. We're going to be in the middle of the playoffs on a championship run and watch him leave for "family matters" . And your going to be here capping for him again.


If you are a contracted or salaried employement you are not paid to do a job. you are bad to be employed and adhere to the terms in your contract. Kyrie isnt a 15/hour clerk at the supermarket who is paid for the days/hours he works. Kyrie is entitled full pay regardless of how many games he misses, as long as those absenses are excused, which they are.

There is nothing to "get away with". if a player has family/healthy/personal matter and has excused time off, they are entitled to it.

the players are employees, they are not slaves. they have rights and entitlements under US/Canadian labor laws and the CBA. Like who are you really made at... Kyrie or is this just projecting your unhappiness that you have an unflexible job that doesnt care about your family, mental health and may even pressure you to not take the PTO/leave you are entitled to?
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Post#195 » by ecuhus1981 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:15 pm

Prokorov wrote:
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Whiskey Slick wrote:Agreed. I shudder to think where we would be without that Harden trade, considering the length of time we lost KD and Kyrie essentially having a license to go AWOL anytime he feels like it, and he's not shy about using if not abusing the privilege. THANK GOD for James Harden.

It's not only Harden carrying the load for us, imagine this season right now if he had went to the Sixers instead. They would be killing everyone and the media would be having an absolute field day.


This is a super underrated point. if he goes to philly, they are favorites in my mind. even with a healthy Kyrie/KD in the playoffs. it was an enormous add for us.

Similarly, id love to see Lowry anywhere but philly

I agree, and I consistently made this point before the Harden deal finally went down.

No matter what outgoing package was going to be, or what those former Nets would become, the deal was anyways going to be worth it as a defensive business play. I always thought that Harden would work here, but I said then that even *if* he didn't mesh seamlessly, keeping him from Miami or Philadelphia or Boston was reason enough to do the deal.
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Post#196 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:18 pm

Prokorov wrote:
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MrDollarBills wrote:I'm going to be blunt. James Harden shows up for this team every night. Kyrie takes time off, and KD has been plagued by injury and covid foolishness.

James Harden is the leader of this team and he will lead us to the championship. Respect him and love him

Agreed. I shudder to think where we would be without that Harden trade, considering the length of time we lost KD and Kyrie essentially having a license to go AWOL anytime he feels like it, and he's not shy about using if not abusing the privilege. THANK GOD for James Harden.

As I said elsewhere, if it's true that Bradley Beal can be had for the right price, I would offer the Wizards a one for one swap, Kyrie for Bradley Beal. I won't argue Beal has more talent and is the better player. Despite leading the league in scoring, IMO Kyrie is the better talent and player ... but Bradley Beal is a bit younger and an elite SG in his own right. That said, a wise man once said the most important "ability" in pro sports is "availability".

In that respect there's NO DOUBT Beal is the more reliable of the two.

Incidentally Beal had his best game of the season this year when he dropped 60 Points on the 76ers.


We need Kyrie/KD in the playoffs, not vs Portland on a random tuesday. Beal isnt close to Kyrie. Kyrie is a far superior player and has proven it on the biggest stages. as good a scorer as beal is, Kyrie is better. and Beal is much more of a chucker, lower IQ player, and while Kyrie is no rock on D, Beal is horrendous.

Kyrie is 4th ALL-TIME in NBA finals PPG. And he hit arguably the most clutch shot in NBA finals history. After dropping 40 points back to back to tie it at 3-3 when they were down 3-1. He is one of the biggest closer in the league who has proven that in the playoffs vs. elite defenders he can still score.

Trading for Beal significantly lowers our title chances. Trading Kyrie makes 0 sense. especially since we know he works well with both harden and KD already.

Bradley Beal, with Westbrook cant even lead their team to a 10th seed playin spot. thats not the guy you want to replace one of the best playoff ceiling raising guards in the league


All Beal does is put up empty stats.

There is no comparison between him and Kyrie.

The man is averaging 30 and can't even get his team to .500 in the East.

He's also not even a great shooter. Last 3 years he has been average. And this year hes been bad.
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Post#197 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:23 pm

Papi_swav wrote:
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Papi_swav wrote:No he does not get as many as he need, that's not how it suppose to be, if that's the case then he might as well just take the season off. Harden is a real leader, Kyrie isn't. Nobody else in the NBA gets to leave when they just feel like it, we need to stop babying this guy and call it like it is. Everybody has family and family issues, he isn't the only one in the world. He's just going to let Harden handle all the dirty work knowing Harden doesn't take any days off but Kyrie gets to whenever he needs to change his underwear.


Yea, that is how it is supposed to be. Family and self care come first. period. Why should he take the season off if he doesnt need it? if he needs a day he takes a day if he needs a week he takes a week. All he needs to do is be transparent and open with the team and get their consent, which he has in both cases.

"harden is a real leader". you mean the guy who quit on his team and was out maskless at strip clubs while not playing games trying to force a trade? that leader?

And yeah, actually, everyone does get to just leave for family issues... at least since 1993 when the Family and Medical Leave act was passed by congress. and its even stronger in some states, that require minimum time off allowances for mental healthy, paternal/maternal leave, and other situations.

Kyrie has a family issue. the team has stated its an excused absence. thats it. period. he doesnt have to play because some random nets fan is mad he cant take days off work or doesnt want him to miss games.

NO tf that isn't how it suppose to be. Why don't u go ahead and just take a month off at your job how about that? He should just donate those 3 checks for those 3 games. Nobody else in the NBA gets away with this but here u are babying him. He's about to set a trend now, now watch the next coming entitled spoiled stars just take off weeks whenever they feel like it. A bunch of overpaid cry babies in the NBA. He might need the whole season off the way he just takes games off.

Yes that same leader. That same leader also CARRIED a whole franchise for YEARS even after being exhausted and still didn't take no days off for "rest" of "family matters". Yes that very same leader. A guy that you can TRUST to be there when needed and you can trust to actually get his butt to a basketball game and do his job that he is paid millions for. Yes that same very leader that doesn't cry about the media being "pawns" and looking down on everybody like he is so above the flat earth. Yes that same leader, put some respect on his body.

Again, we had this argument already with the family and medical leave act blah blah blah. Some ppl can't afford to do that and some ppl don't want to deal with the annoyance that comes with it. Why can't u get that thru your rich spoiled head. Not everybody was born with a silver spoon like u and Kyrie.

Your paid to do your job, like everybody else in this world , period. Even Jordan said "you're paid to play 82 games". Make NBA players great again. Like I said nobody else in the NBA gets away with this BS not even Lebron. And here you are putting your cape on for what? because he's your favorite player on your favorite team? You have to keep it real with yourself. IDC who he is, when I see BS I call it out point blank. We're going to be in the middle of the playoffs on a championship run and watch him leave for "family matters" . And your going to be here capping for him again.


I don't get why you're so pressed bro.

Kyrie is just missing 3 games. Its not the end of the world.

Whenever hes on the floor he plays like a top 10 player.

These games don't matter that much anyway.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Blazers - 3/23/2021 @ 10PM on Yes 

Post#198 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:31 pm

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Whiskey Slick wrote:Agreed. I shudder to think where we would be without that Harden trade, considering the length of time we lost KD and Kyrie essentially having a license to go AWOL anytime he feels like it, and he's not shy about using if not abusing the privilege. THANK GOD for James Harden.

As I said elsewhere, if it's true that Bradley Beal can be had for the right price, I would offer the Wizards a one for one swap, Kyrie for Bradley Beal. I won't argue Beal has more talent and is the better player. Despite leading the league in scoring, IMO Kyrie is the better talent and player ... but Bradley Beal is a bit younger and an elite SG in his own right. That said, a wise man once said the most important "ability" in pro sports is "availability".

In that respect there's NO DOUBT Beal is the more reliable of the two.

Incidentally Beal had his best game of the season this year when he dropped 60 Points on the 76ers.


I'm not interested in trading Kyrie, nor am I going to question his absence. He had to attend to a family matter, and I am fine with that explanation.

However, availability is everything in life, not just basketball, and right now, James Harden has always been available while our other 2 stars have not been, regardless of the circumstances. The Harden trade in hindsight is the difference between the Nets being a top 4 team in the league and a middle of the pack club.

I'm not trying to be unfair to KD and Kyrie, I am just being honest. Harden is available every night and is carrying this team to victory night after night playing a heavy load. We need to get Kyrie and KD back on the floor ASAP to prevent Harden from breaking down.


But we knew this coming in... if you go back to the harden trade thread, this was the #1 reason i listed that the trade is a no brainer. Harden is an iron man and Kyrie/KD are gonna miss 15-20 games a year.

Regular season wins are important. but to win a title you need elite players healthy when it counts. The Raptors were carried by lowry/Siakim in the regular season while Kawhii missed 14 games for maintenance. In the playoffs, Kawhi turned into Michael Jordan, was fresh, rested, and focus and carried them to a title.

We have seen the Cavs lose titles cause Kyrie was out
We have seen the GSW lose a title cause KD was out

We have seen Kyrie play a MASSIVE role in winning a title, including super clutch 4th quarter play
We have seen KD play a MASSIVE role in winning a title. including super clutch 4th quarter play

Its been said perfectly by a few people in a few places. Harden is this teams floor raisers. he will prevent us from being anything less then a 1-2 seed. KD/Kyrie are our ceiling raisers. if we want to win a title, we need those guys healthy and fresh


We need them in the playoffs definitely, I just worry about how much can Harden sustain. He nearly got knocked out versus Washington, he banged his knee and hit his back last night alone. He's known to be an Iron Man but there's no guarantees that he can continue to get hammered like this while playing 40 mins a night.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Blazers - 3/23/2021 @ 10PM on Yes 

Post#199 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:36 pm

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Papi_swav wrote:yea he's right. Kyrie is kinda selfish for just taking off games when he feel like, especially knowing Harden has been playing a bunch of minutes with no games off and he hurt his neck the other day. You gotta admit that's pretty selfish. How many family days does this guy get?


He gets as many as he needs.

Harden can sit whenever he/nash choose. The fix is harden sitting, not Kyrie ignoring a family issue.

No he does not get as many as he need, that's not how it suppose to be, if that's the case then he might as well just take the season off. Harden is a real leader, Kyrie isn't. Nobody else in the NBA gets to leave when they just feel like it, we need to stop babying this guy and call it like it is. Everybody has family and family issues, he isn't the only one in the world. He's just going to let Harden handle all the dirty work knowing Harden doesn't take any days off but Kyrie gets to whenever he needs to change his underwear.


It is an excused absence. It's not that big of a deal, what was communicated to the fanbase from the team is more than enough of a good explanation. I am more concerned with Harden being played 40+ mins and taking several hits a night than I am with Kyrie taking a week away to deal with family related issues.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Blazers - 3/23/2021 @ 10PM on YES 

Post#200 » by DarkXaero » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:37 pm

I'm not too worried about Harden, he's used to this kind of load from his time in Houston, this isn't anything new for him. Obviously, you'd like to reduce the high load on him, but I think we'll have the opportunity to do that once Kyrie/KD come back.

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