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Re: Official 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1161 » by Rainwater » Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:52 am

ogmagicfan wrote:
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Worst I’d want the Bulls doing is 8th worst, which gives them a 23.5% at a top 4 pick.

If they end up being the 7th worst their odds at a top 4 pick jump to 31.9%.

Relevant since the Chicago pick is top 4 protected.


I'll take the chances. I am all in for two top 5 picks.


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Post#1162 » by thelead » Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:53 am

With that loss, Chi dropped from 10th worst record to tied for 8th. If we get a top 5 pick and top 10 in the same draft, and hit on the picks, it could be a quick rebuild.
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Post#1163 » by Rainwater » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:01 am

thelead wrote:With that loss, Chi dropped from 10th worst record to tied for 8th. If we get a top 5 pick and top 10 in the same draft, and hit on the picks, it could be a quick rebuild.


Nope, say 2 top 5 picks. Speak into existence, lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Official 2021 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1164 » by ogmagicfan » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:05 am

thelead wrote:With that loss, Chi dropped from 10th worst record to tied for 8th. If we get a top 5 pick and top 10 in the same draft, and hit on the picks, it could be a quick rebuild.


When next season are Isaac & Fultz expected to come back?

I think we’re still gonna be a bottom 10 team next year even if the picks hit, probably between 4-8.

The 2022-2023 season we could contend for the playoffs, and set ourselves up for a big FA coming the following season while having Chicago’s pick that offseason and the Nuggets in 2025.

Pretty good circumstance. Really interested to see if WCJ or Bamba will be our center for the future or if we’re gonna get him through the draft/free agency.
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Post#1165 » by PrimeThyme » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:08 am

Rainwater wrote:Not necessarily. Remember Min, Det, and Orlando are in the top 4 for the number 1 spot and therefore have an even shot for it. So I don't care if Minny or Det all keep losing games. What a Rockets and Wizards win does however is increase the chances that the bulls pick is a higher pick. So this is a good night.

I want a guaranteed top 5 pick. I'm still very much chasing Minny/Detroit for that number one best odds spot. So to me, it is.
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Post#1166 » by ogmagicfan » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:10 am

PrimeThyme wrote:
Rainwater wrote:Not necessarily. Remember Min, Det, and Orlando are in the top 4 for the number 1 spot and therefore have an even shot for it. So I don't care if Minny or Det all keep losing games. What a Rockets and Wizards win does however is increase the chances that the bulls pick is a higher pick. So this is a good night.

I want a guaranteed top 5 pick. I'm still very much chasing Minny/Detroit for that number one best odds spot. So to me, it is.


The amount of times I’ve gotten the Magic getting #6 or #7 on Tankathon have me feeling the same way
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Post#1167 » by thelead » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:24 am

Where can I find Chi's strength of schedule the rest of the way?

I'm looking at the standings and I'm really starting to wonder what the Bulls were thinking. That draft pick is a big gamble for them if things don't click or one of Vuc/Lavine misses more than a handful of games.

I'm seeing A LOT of games against playoff teams the rest of the way for them
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Post#1168 » by Nyce_1 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:38 am

thelead wrote:Where can I find Chi's strength of schedule the rest of the way?

I'm looking at the standings and I'm really starting to wonder what the Bulls were thinking. That draft pick is a big gamble for them if things don't click or one of Vuc/Lavine misses more than a handful of games.

I'm seeing A LOT of games against playoff teams the rest of the way for them

http://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

and Lavine has a bum ankle. keep an eye on it because he may have to sit after tonight's game. He didn't even enter the 4th, after they got the lead down to single digit. If he sits 1-2 weeks, no way they make post season with a new roster and a tough remaining SOS.

just one game with them, but i'm trying not to get excited at the real possibility of two top-10 picks this summer.
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Post#1169 » by PrimeThyme » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:38 am

thelead wrote:Where can I find Chi's strength of schedule the rest of the way?

I'm looking at the standings and I'm really starting to wonder what the Bulls were thinking. That draft pick is a big gamble for them if things don't click or one of Vuc/Lavine misses more than a handful of games.

I'm seeing A LOT of games against playoff teams the rest of the way for them

This was my point when people were saying that these picks are guaranteed mid lottery. The Bulls have lost 5 of 6 games and have the 7th hardest schedule remaining. I never understood the posters saying that, though I suppose it could still happen. I just don't see it as likely.
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Post#1170 » by thelead » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:47 am

Nyce_1 wrote:
thelead wrote:Where can I find Chi's strength of schedule the rest of the way?

I'm looking at the standings and I'm really starting to wonder what the Bulls were thinking. That draft pick is a big gamble for them if things don't click or one of Vuc/Lavine misses more than a handful of games.

I'm seeing A LOT of games against playoff teams the rest of the way for them

http://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

and Lavine has a bum ankle. keep an eye on it because he may have to sit after tonight's game. He didn't even enter the 4th, after they got the lead down to single digit. If he sits 1-2 weeks, no way they make post season with a new roster and a tough remaining SOS.

just one game with them, but i'm trying not to get excited at the real possibility of two top-10 picks this summer.

Yeah. I was watching the game and Zach was visibly limping after an ally. They're going to be in trouble if he misses some games.
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Post#1171 » by Rainwater » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:11 am

thelead wrote:Where can I find Chi's strength of schedule the rest of the way?

I'm looking at the standings and I'm really starting to wonder what the Bulls were thinking. That draft pick is a big gamble for them if things don't click or one of Vuc/Lavine misses more than a handful of games.

I'm seeing A LOT of games against playoff teams the rest of the way for them


Yeah, the Bulls may have F*cked up big time
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Post#1172 » by RookieStar » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:52 am

Its a big gamble for them. On paper they are a 5 or 6 seed for me if healthy and clicking.

However with Lavines health/injury, lesser games to click, their PG looking to get his instead of finding Vuc... well thats a big risk they could srop out of th PO race.

With that said, i dont mind the 10-15 range this draft rather than chance for a top pick next draft where you know CHI ia gonna click and be a PO team. This dradt is loaded compared to next.
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Post#1173 » by MagicStarwipe » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:44 am

Don't you just hate it when you do Tankathon and the Bulls jump into the top 3 and we drop like 3 spots?
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Post#1174 » by Skybox » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:17 pm

Rainwater wrote:
thelead wrote:Where can I find Chi's strength of schedule the rest of the way?

I'm looking at the standings and I'm really starting to wonder what the Bulls were thinking. That draft pick is a big gamble for them if things don't click or one of Vuc/Lavine misses more than a handful of games.

I'm seeing A LOT of games against playoff teams the rest of the way for them


Yeah, the Bulls may have F*cked up big time



Bulls and Vuc have a lot of ground to cover to diminish the value of this year’s pick. An injury, slow chemistry, or the realization that defenseless bigs can’t work unless Lauri and Vuc each score 25 (along with Zach...BRK gameplan). Very promising for us in the short term.

Another dimension to consider...the second pick comes as Zach becomes a FA and they don’t have the cap to extend him this offseason. Zach is just not that great a player (very good, not great- Like Vuc). If he gets frustrated or pissy or insists on a Max deal, they could quickly implode or scramble to move him (likely at a loss) but almost certainly can’t get much better without their picks or cap space. Both of those picks could be gold to us, but at least one will very likely be...One GREAT pick is worth a dozen late ones.
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Post#1175 » by nemesis37 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:11 pm

I was thinking and a doubt on this front office come to my mind. If we get the chance to select Cade on draft night, our front office will pick him?

They resigned Fultz and think is our pg of future, we have Cole and now RJ Hampton. Will they want another pg ball dominant? It's enough room to have Fultz and Cade from our GM perspective?

This kept me thinking and i think if there's an opportunity to pick him i really think this front office could pass him. What do you guys think?
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Post#1176 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:19 pm

If Orlando somehow ends up with a top 3 + #5 after Chicago enters a free fall ...

Gimme Cade/Green + Mobley to reboot the franchise.
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Post#1177 » by Rockzin4 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:29 pm

nemesis37 wrote:I was thinking and a doubt on this front office come to my mind. If we get the chance to select Cade on draft night, our front office will pick him?

They resigned Fultz and think is our pg of future, we have Cole and now RJ Hampton. Will they want another pg ball dominant? It's enough room to have Fultz and Cade from our GM perspective?

This kept me thinking and i think if there's an opportunity to pick him i really think this front office could pass him. What do you guys think?


Hard to say. If I’m a GM Fultz would have no impact on who I’m drafting. He’s been a good story so far but that’s pretty much it. There’s probably only about 3-4 starters in the league I would consider taking Fultz over right now. So if you can upgrade the PG spot do it.

Fultz becoming good after you draft Cade/Suggs is a good problem. Being stuck with a lackluster point guard when you could have drafted someone better is a bad one. Learn from the past front office, don’t let your ego keep you stuck with crap.
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Post#1178 » by Knightro » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:30 pm

nemesis37 wrote:I was thinking and a doubt on this front office come to my mind. If we get the chance to select Cade on draft night, our front office will pick him?

They resigned Fultz and think is our pg of future, we have Cole and now RJ Hampton. Will they want another pg ball dominant? It's enough room to have Fultz and Cade from our GM perspective?

This kept me thinking and i think if there's an opportunity to pick him i really think this front office could pass him. What do you guys think?


1. None of Fultz, Anthony or Hampton are good enough to keep the Magic from drafting an elite PG prospect.

2. Cade Cunningham under no circumstances is an NBA point guard. He's a wing who has creation and passing skills.
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Post#1179 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:33 pm

Cade and Fultz do not make the perfect pairing, but there is no reason they can’t play together.

Drafting Suggs likely means we should start looking at moving Fultz if and when a good offer comes.
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Post#1180 » by nemesis37 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:38 pm

Rockzin4 wrote:Hard to say. If I’m a GM Fultz would have no impact on who I’m drafting. He’s been a good story so far but that’s pretty much it. There’s probably only about 3-4 starters in the league I would consider taking Fultz over right now. So if you can upgrade the PG spot do it.

Fultz becoming good after you draft Cade/Suggs is a good problem. Being stuck with a lackluster point guard when you could have drafted someone better is a bad one. Learn from the past front office, don’t let your ego keep you stuck with crap.


I think the same but I've my doubts weham thinks like this.



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1. None of Fultz, Anthony or Hampton are good enough to keep the Magic from drafting an elite PG prospect.

2. Cade Cunningham under no circumstances is an NBA point guard. He's a wing who has creation and passing skills.


He plays PG, i assume he will play like Ben Simmons.

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