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I don’t , number one all the way. higher value is always better and Mobley is alright but I aint taking a big that high again, especially where there are playmaking guards/wings with just as much potential right there for the taking.
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I think I'm still on the Cade side right now, hard to say. I've been so out of the college hoops loop this year.
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Mobley is the easiest fit into the team we have, but it depends on whether you think we should be drafting around Ant and Russell. Cunningham is pretty ball dominant and wouldn’t be a great fit.
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Neeva wrote:I don’t , number one all the way. higher value is always better and Mobley is alright but I aint taking a big that high again, especially where there are playmaking guards/wings with just as much potential right there for the taking.
I know you love Green but if you had to make a choice between him and Cade, what are you doing?
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Worm Guts wrote:Mobley is the easiest fit into the team we have, but it depends on whether you think we should be drafting around Ant and Russell. Cunningham is pretty ball dominant and wouldn’t be a great fit.
He is now. No way he can play that way in the NBA. He just doesn’t have the athletic ability or creativity to consistently create separation. Doncic, Harden, and maybe even LaMelo are not upper tier athletes but they just have a handle, creativity, agility that Cunningham doesn’t have.
Cunningham will have to be more of a #2 on a good team. Hitting open shots, always making the right play, etc. I think he can actually be a decent fit because of his shooting ability. I’m not sure I see as a clear tier ahead of Mobley, Suggs, and Green though.
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ChiefKeith91 wrote:If we keep our pick I’d want 2 rather than 1. Cade seems like the obvious #1 but I want Mobley for this team. People say they see Kg in his game but I see a lot of AD in him.
I, too, am intrigued by Mobley. Going from small ball to a 3-4-5 of McDaniels, Mobley and Towns would a breath of fresh air.
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Foye wrote:Jedzz wrote:Norseman79 wrote:
If Karl Towns isn't good enough to get the #1 overall, what the hell we building around him for?
He's certainly good enough for a #1 pick trade. I don't care how hyped the next draft is. The only time he wouldn't be is if the team with #1 is stocked with a star at his position already. They still likely would take it and just play Towns at the 4.
People and their insane overvaluing of draft picks can all kma.
Personally, I think about the only team that would take Towns for a top pick is Golden State. And that is Wolves very own 1st lmao. Rosas will rightfully get roasted by media if he makes such a trade.
Houston, Detroit, Washington, Orlando...they all suck. There‘s no incentive for them to get Towns. Would barely move them to .500 cementing their mediocrity status for the next couple years.
Well you would be wrong. Just because the Timberwolves can't seem to make it work for playoffs yet doesn't mean other teams can't instantly thrive with him and different decisionmaking around him, schemes, and a real desire to compete, etc. This has always been nearly the dumbest team in pro sports and they literally almost never try to even have a winning record. Go ahead and try and argue it hasn't. You wonder why a special player's top end value is being questioned? It's what this team does to everyone.
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Norseman79 wrote:Foye wrote:Jedzz wrote:
He's certainly good enough for a #1 pick trade. I don't care how hyped the next draft is. The only time he wouldn't be is if the team with #1 is stocked with a star at his position already. They still likely would take it and just play Towns at the 4.
People and their insane overvaluing of draft picks can all kma.
Personally, I think about the only team that would take Towns for a top pick is Golden State. And that is Wolves very own 1st lmao. Rosas will rightfully get roasted by media if he makes such a trade.
Houston, Detroit, Washington, Orlando...they all suck. There‘s no incentive for them to get Towns. Would barely move them to .500 cementing their mediocrity status for the next couple years.
Maybe OKC might roll the dice with their 500 draft picks coming up. But then again they will most likely only offer this years draft pick if they don‘t like anyone at their position.
People have roasted me here for saying at least a year that Wolves should sell high on Towns.
Now that his value is at all time low the „trade Towns bandwagon“ on the board finally starts to move.
Its too late already. Not getting the great offers anymore. At max. you are getting a .70 cent return for a dollar since the top teams know exactly that the Wolves are headed nowhere with Towns as franchise leader.
If you actually don't think several of those teams wouldn't jump at the chance to land Towns you are nuts. Washington??? Hmmm Russell, Beal and Towns...yeah they would hate that. I get your logic with some of the teams, but Houston would load us up...Towns and Wood at C and PF...
If you asking what makes their situation different from the Wolves...roster build, salary room, and Eastern Conference. Detroit is in the playoffs with a frontcourt of Bay, Grant, and Towns.
I think you are overrating Towns.
Regarding Washington. There is only one ball to play with. Towns would get less touches there with ballhogs Beal and Westbrook limiting his offensive impact. However, you still have to deal with his terrible defense. Not what you want.
The Eastern conference is far more competitive than you think. Teams like Miami, Chicago and Boston are struggling to even get in the playoffs. All with a far better roster than Was, Detroit and Orl.
Detroit is not going to the playoffs simply by adding Towns. They have the worst roster in the entire league.
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Washington I think would have to be interested if they’re keeping Beal, Detroit I don’t know. Of course I think it’s the same for us. If we get to keep our pick, we have to look at which stars might be available for a trade.
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Worm Guts wrote:Washington I think would have to be interested if they’re keeping Beal, Detroit I don’t know. Of course I think it’s the same for us. If we get to keep our pick, we have to look at which stars might be available for a trade.
Let’s say we get the #3 pick. #3 pick and Edwards for Beal? I normally would say absolutely not but I’m pretty down on Edwards ability to play winning basketball at the moment.
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Jedzz wrote:Foye wrote:Jedzz wrote:
He's certainly good enough for a #1 pick trade. I don't care how hyped the next draft is. The only time he wouldn't be is if the team with #1 is stocked with a star at his position already. They still likely would take it and just play Towns at the 4.
People and their insane overvaluing of draft picks can all kma.
Personally, I think about the only team that would take Towns for a top pick is Golden State. And that is Wolves very own 1st lmao. Rosas will rightfully get roasted by media if he makes such a trade.
Houston, Detroit, Washington, Orlando...they all suck. There‘s no incentive for them to get Towns. Would barely move them to .500 cementing their mediocrity status for the next couple years.
Well you would be wrong. Just because the Timberwolves can't seem to make it work for playoffs yet doesn't mean other teams can't instantly thrive with him and different decisionmaking around him, schemes, and a real desire to compete, etc. This has always been nearly the dumbest team in pro sports and they literally almost never try to even have a winning record. Go ahead and try and argue it hasn't. You wonder why a special player's top end value is being questioned? It's what this team does to everyone.
Towns is fools gold.
Any „dumbest“ starts with him.
From wanting his buddy D-Lo in Minny to not giving a damn on D to not showing any leadership on the court.
People need to understand that he is much closer to being on Vukcevic level than he is to Jokic, AD and Embiid.
He is just putting up numbers on a bad team. Hasn‘t lead the Wolves to a single 40 win season as the main guy on the team.
The one time Wolves got 47 wins this was all on Jimmy.
To say it in Jimmy‘s words:
Towns is soft. Soft as charmin.
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I don’t think Towns will ever be the best player on a great team. He may be a great #2 though behind a true leader. It’s too bad Jimmy couldn’t make it so here. Towns really needed some of his tough love even if he didn’t want it.
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jpatrick wrote:I don’t think Towns will ever be the best player on a great team. He may be a great #2 though behind a true leader. It’s too bad Jimmy couldn’t make it so here. Towns really needed some of his tough love even if he didn’t want it.
The sooner everyone on this board and the Wolves organization realizes this, the better.
I would even go that far to say Towns would have to be the third best player for the team to be a contender unless paired with LeBron.
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Anyway back to this draft Green is 1A, Suggs is 1B
This would be a dream backcourt.
This would be a dream backcourt.
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Foye wrote:jpatrick wrote:I don’t think Towns will ever be the best player on a great team. He may be a great #2 though behind a true leader. It’s too bad Jimmy couldn’t make it so here. Towns really needed some of his tough love even if he didn’t want it.
The sooner everyone on this board and the Wolves organization realizes this, the better.
I would even go that far to say Towns would have to be the third best player for the team to be a contender unless paired with LeBron.
I think everyone knows we need another star. I’m not sure why we should feel the need to define Towns as a 1 or a 2. We need more good players. Period.
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Worm Guts wrote:Washington I think would have to be interested if they’re keeping Beal, Detroit I don’t know. Of course I think it’s the same for us. If we get to keep our pick, we have to look at which stars might be available for a trade.
They aren't going to get a significant star player for a single top pick. Maybe if they attached Edwards and the pick they might pry someone stuck on a bad team. Why would a team with multiple cast any out instead of further build themselves. I wonder what's the list of those singular star players remaining out there after all the shuffling towards mega teams lately.
Beal and ...even Beal is with Westbrook now. But they didn't do anything great at deadline, maybe they would be able to part with on.
How many others? Going to put Sabonis next to Kat?
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Worm Guts wrote:Foye wrote:jpatrick wrote:I don’t think Towns will ever be the best player on a great team. He may be a great #2 though behind a true leader. It’s too bad Jimmy couldn’t make it so here. Towns really needed some of his tough love even if he didn’t want it.
The sooner everyone on this board and the Wolves organization realizes this, the better.
I would even go that far to say Towns would have to be the third best player for the team to be a contender unless paired with LeBron.
I think everyone knows we need another star. I’m not sure why we should feel the need to define Towns as a 1 or a 2. We need more good players. Period.
Exactly. And this team is likely going to need to do this with three to four or more middling star like talents instead of aiming for a Lebron like many fans seem to think has to happen.
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If we got the 1# we must pick the best player possible and not the best fit.
That is my opinion.
That is my opinion.
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TwolvesFanRome wrote:If we got the 1# we must pick the best player possible and not the best fit.
That is my opinion.
If we get the #1 pick and Rosas picks Mobley because he will "fit great next to Towns" I think i'm officially done with this team.
You know what, I shouldn't say that. Evan Mobley is potentially the #1 pick
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Started watching this USC/Oregon game five minutes ago. Based on that, Mobley can definitely play some PF. His handle and passing are impressive for that size.
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