Official 2021 NBA Draft Thread

The Effect · Post #1201 » by **The Effect** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:41 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
The Effect wrote:Man I can see it now, barnes is going to be one of those guys who you'll love on your team but hate if he's not

Just something about his personality tells me he's going to be a winner. I haven't seen the top 5 talent yet but I get the hype

His game is flawed right now but his intangibles and measurables are everything you could want.

Yeah his game isn't there yet, but you can see it coming along and like you said the intangibles are off the charts

He's one of those guys who I think will have a slow start to his career, but probably has the lowest bust rating long term

He's might be the first FSU I've actually liked pre-draft

Post #1202 » by **Def Swami** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:42 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:Don't you just hate it when you do Tankathon and the Bulls jump into the top 3 and we drop like 3 spots?

This is such a real possibility. Which is why I hated the protection on the pick. And why it's important to confirm what happens to the pick if it doesn't convey this year.

Post #1203 » by **Def Swami** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:45 pm

BDill012 wrote:Who are guys you all are eyeing right now for the Chicago pick?

What do people think about Kispert from Gonzaga? I think he could be a good pick to add the shooting that will be needed around Flutz and Isaac.

I wouldn't mind Cade/Green and Kispert. Obviously still a ways to go and lots to happen.

Thoughts

Scottie Barnes if the Bulls are bad enough.

MasterGMer · Post #1204 » by **MasterGMer** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:29 pm

What are we going to do with Fultz, if Magic draft Suggs or Cade? Is Fultz our future at PG? Or the newcomer?

BDill012 · Post #1205 » by **BDill012** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:44 pm

Def Swami wrote:
BDill012 wrote:Who are guys you all are eyeing right now for the Chicago pick?

What do people think about Kispert from Gonzaga? I think he could be a good pick to add the shooting that will be needed around Flutz and Isaac.

I wouldn't mind Cade/Green and Kispert. Obviously still a ways to go and lots to happen.

Thoughts

Scottie Barnes if the Bulls are bad enough.

Does he shoot it well enough? I like him, but worry about his shooting.

Post #1206 » by **Knightro** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:48 pm

Franz Wagner is a very good player.

Nyce_1 · Post #1207 » by **Nyce_1** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:53 pm

MasterGMer wrote:What are we going to do with Fultz, if Magic draft Suggs or Cade? Is Fultz our future at PG? Or the newcomer?

Fultz can absolutely play with Cade; whom, I project to play SG/SF in the league.

Suggs....yeah...someone gotta go if he's the one :dontknow:

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Post #1208 » by **Knightro** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:54 pm

MasterGMer wrote:What are we going to do with Fultz, if Magic draft Suggs or Cade? Is Fultz our future at PG? Or the newcomer?

If you draft Cade, he plays SF and assumes a primary scorer/secondary creator role with Fultz remaining as the starting PG.

If you draft Suggs, you could try to play them together, but I'd probably look to move on from Fultz in relatively short order with Suggs being the new engine PG of the team.

RookieStar · Post #1209 » by **RookieStar** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:01 pm

BDill012 wrote:Who are guys you all are eyeing right now for the Chicago pick?

What do people think about Kispert from Gonzaga? I think he could be a good pick to add the shooting that will be needed around Flutz and Isaac.

I wouldn't mind Cade/Green and Kispert. Obviously still a ways to go and lots to happen.

Thoughts

Yup, Krispert.. a perfect 3pt shooting wing for us. However, I really think we will be picking in the 10-15 for CHI and we have to go with Moody,Bouknight,Keon,Zaire

RookieStar · Post #1210 » by **RookieStar** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:23 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:What are we going to do with Fultz, if Magic draft Suggs or Cade? Is Fultz our future at PG? Or the newcomer?

Fultz can absolutely play with Cade; whom, I project to play SG/SF in the league.

Suggs....yeah...someone gotta go if he's the one .

Absolutely.Cade can play with anyone on our roster right now. Fultz Cole Cade, Fultz Harris Cade, Fultz RJ Cade

IF Suggs.. only because we might be a lilt undersize but we shall see. 3 players all 6'4-6'5ish occupying the 1-3 spots..

Magicfanatic82 · Post #1211 » by **Magicfanatic82** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:24 pm

Watch on YouTube

New video breakdown of Cade.

RookieStar · Post #1212 » by **RookieStar** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:24 pm

Knightro wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:What are we going to do with Fultz, if Magic draft Suggs or Cade? Is Fultz our future at PG? Or the newcomer?

If you draft Cade, he plays SF and assumes a primary scorer/secondary creator role with Fultz remaining as the starting PG.

If you draft Suggs, you could try to play them together, but I'd probably look to move on from Fultz in relatively short order with Suggs being the new engine PG of the team.

Yup. As evidenced in the tourney, Cade can play the spot-up shooter role or the mid range shooter as well as the driving in terms of scoring. So he will be perfect for the 2-3 (2 if we believe Okeke can handle the 3 full time )

Nyce_1 · Post #1213 » by **Nyce_1** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:52 pm

RookieStar wrote:
Knightro wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:What are we going to do with Fultz, if Magic draft Suggs or Cade? Is Fultz our future at PG? Or the newcomer?

If you draft Cade, he plays SF and assumes a primary scorer/secondary creator role with Fultz remaining as the starting PG.

If you draft Suggs, you could try to play them together, but I'd probably look to move on from Fultz in relatively short order with Suggs being the new engine PG of the team.

Yup. As evidenced in the tourney, Cade can play the spot-up shooter role or the mid range shooter as well as the driving in terms of scoring. So he will be perfect for the 2-3 (2 if we believe Okeke can handle the 3 full time )

Fultz/Cade*/Okeke/Isaac/Bamba :dontknow:

Cole/RJ/Kispert*/?Herb Jones?/WCJ

RookieStar · Post #1214 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:19 am

Nyce_1 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Knightro wrote:
If you draft Cade, he plays SF and assumes a primary scorer/secondary creator role with Fultz remaining as the starting PG.

If you draft Suggs, you could try to play them together, but I'd probably look to move on from Fultz in relatively short order with Suggs being the new engine PG of the team.

Yup. As evidenced in the tourney, Cade can play the spot-up shooter role or the mid range shooter as well as the driving in terms of scoring. So he will be perfect for the 2-3 (2 if we believe Okeke can handle the 3 full time )

Fultz/Cade*/Okeke/Isaac/Bamba
Cole/RJ/Kispert*/?Herb Jones?/WCJ

Did something happen to Harris OPJ and Tross while i wasnt looking?

Nyce_1 · Post #1215 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:28 am

RookieStar wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Yup. As evidenced in the tourney, Cade can play the spot-up shooter role or the mid range shooter as well as the driving in terms of scoring. So he will be perfect for the 2-3 (2 if we believe Okeke can handle the 3 full time )

Fultz/Cade*/Okeke/Isaac/Bamba
Cole/RJ/Kispert*/?Herb Jones?/WCJ

Did something happen to Harris OPJ and Tross while i wasnt looking?

all traded. GONE.

RookieStar · Post #1216 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:29 am

Nyce_1 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Fultz/Cade*/Okeke/Isaac/Bamba
Cole/RJ/Kispert*/?Herb Jones?/WCJ

Did something happen to Harris OPJ and Tross while i wasnt looking?

all traded. GONE.

Thats nice. But you didnt put the player who we traded for in the lineup lol

Magicfanatic82 · Post #1217 » by **Magicfanatic82** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:54 am

Finally found the Bulls pick details from basketball insiders...

2021 — Owed a first-rounder (top-4 protected in 2021, top-3 in 2022, otherwise converts to 2024 and 2025 second-rounders) from the Chicago Bulls (Nikola Vucevic).

2023 — Owed a first-rounder (two years after the 2021 obligation to the Orland Magic, top-4 protected in 2023, top-3 in 2024, otherwise converts to 2026 and 2027 second-rounders) from the Chicago Bulls (Nikola Vucevic).

So go ahead and tank Chicago!

Post #1218 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:00 am

Magicfanatic82 wrote:Finally found the Bulls pick details from basketball insiders...
2021 — Owed a first-rounder (top-4 protected in 2021, top-3 in 2022, otherwise converts to 2024 and 2025 second-rounders) from the Chicago Bulls (Nikola Vucevic).

2023 — Owed a first-rounder (two years after the 2021 obligation to the Orland Magic, top-4 protected in 2023, top-3 in 2024, otherwise converts to 2026 and 2027 second-rounders) from the Chicago Bulls (Nikola Vucevic).

So go ahead and tank Chicago!

That's kinda awful. There's a scenario where the Magic only 2nd round picks? That's so bad. I know the odds are low, but still. The fact that there's a scenario where the Magic only get 2nd round picks is kind of off putting.

swarlesbarkley · Post #1219 » by **swarlesbarkley** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:05 am

Magicfanatic82 wrote:Finally found the Bulls pick details from basketball insiders...
2021 — Owed a first-rounder (top-4 protected in 2021, top-3 in 2022, otherwise converts to 2024 and 2025 second-rounders) from the Chicago Bulls (Nikola Vucevic).

2023 — Owed a first-rounder (two years after the 2021 obligation to the Orland Magic, top-4 protected in 2023, top-3 in 2024, otherwise converts to 2026 and 2027 second-rounders) from the Chicago Bulls (Nikola Vucevic).

So go ahead and tank Chicago!

So there's a chance that Chi wins the lottery 4 years in a row and we'd end up with 4 second-rounders? With our luck lately that seems way too likely lol.

Maybe we should root for Chi to make the playoffs as an 8th seed.

Post #1220 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:08 am

I just hate the idea that the Magic are banking on lottery odds and luck for those FRP's to convey. For a team that has been scorned by luck over 10 years, I would have made all assurances that we get a FRP at some point.