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I love the way he talked to the media. He genuinely seems excited to get going. He said all the right things during his presser too.
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When everyone is healthy, I wonder if Drummond closes most games or they stick with a smaller lineup and an extra shooter
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Schroeder / KCP / Bron / AD / AD2
This line up is great on both ends of the court.
AC / THT / Kuz /Trez / Gasol plus Morris and Wes, we are very solid when every one comes back.
This line up is great on both ends of the court.
AC / THT / Kuz /Trez / Gasol plus Morris and Wes, we are very solid when every one comes back.
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Loved his interview. Seemed very genuine and excited to wear the purple and gold.
He's here as a contract mercenary that is obvious. However I hope he does his mercenary work well.
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He's definitely saying all the right things.
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I'm not even sure there's a way to lock him up long term, but I'm glad he's here, and let's hope it translates well..
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Kilroy wrote:I'm not even sure there's a way to lock him up long term, but I'm glad he's here, and let's hope it translates well..
Tax MLE of 5 mil. It has to be that to not hard cap the team. Then the following year his salary can start at 11mil a year.
If they are not hard capped by being the recipient of a sign and trade and only use the MLE that comes with being a tax payer, they can do more things. Dennis can get his raise pass that 18M a year start that he is limited to now. Trez can opt in if he chooses and make 11M for a year and get early bird rights. Morris can get his raise and take the salary of a guy like Wes with early bird rights.
The best hope is you win a ring. Marc retires and gets his money that he took a wink wink deal like Duncan for with 2 years when he had better free agent offers including from Toronto. Dudley plays Haslem for another year on the bench. Wes walks away to a new team role, but you give his 3 mil plus salary to Markieff, BAE like money without the exception. Then you use Caruso to get you a nice trade exemption when some team over pays for him. You match THT. KCP and Kuzma comeback. Bron and AD get real rest from a real off season. Drummond takes the tax mle. The 2 ways get released to sign two guards to be developed like Tucker and Caruso were. Jones gets a contract like what Cook got which was unguaranteed but at the minimum. Drummond takes the tax MLE and your word you will take care of him. Call up Javale for the minimum that is guaranteed. Then wait to buyout season next year and after Rondo has broek the Clippers down and let him retire a Laker after he breaks Kawhi and PG when he tells them straight up what he thinks of them
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kblo247 wrote:Kilroy wrote:I'm not even sure there's a way to lock him up long term, but I'm glad he's here, and let's hope it translates well..
Tax MLE of 5 mil. It has to be that to not hard cap the team. Then the following year his salary can start at 11mil a year.
If they are not hard capped by being the recipient of a sign and trade and only use the MLE that comes with being a tax payer, they can do more things. Dennis can get his raise pass that 18M a year start that he is limited to now. Trez can opt in if he chooses and make 11M for a year and get early bird rights. Morris can get his raise and take the salary of a guy like Wes with early bird rights.
The best hope is you win a ring. Marc retires and gets his money that he took a wink wink deal like Duncan for with 2 years when he had better free agent offers including from Toronto. Dudley plays Haslem for another year on the bench. Wes walks away to a new team role, but you give his 3 mil plus salary to Markieff, BAE like money without the exception. Then you use Caruso to get you a nice trade exemption when some team over pays for him. You match THT. KCP and Kuzma comeback. Bron and AD get real rest from a real off season. Drummond takes the tax mle. The 2 ways get released to sign two guards to be developed like Tucker and Caruso were. Jones gets a contract like what Cook got which was unguaranteed but at the minimum. Drummond takes the tax MLE and your word you will take care of him. Call up Javale for the minimum that is guaranteed. Then wait to buyout season next year and after Rondo has broek the Clippers down and let him retire a Laker after he breaks Kawhi and PG when he tells them straight up what he thinks of them
So in other words Drummond is gone after this season.
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iamworthy wrote:kblo247 wrote:Kilroy wrote:I'm not even sure there's a way to lock him up long term, but I'm glad he's here, and let's hope it translates well..
Tax MLE of 5 mil. It has to be that to not hard cap the team. Then the following year his salary can start at 11mil a year.
If they are not hard capped by being the recipient of a sign and trade and only use the MLE that comes with being a tax payer, they can do more things. Dennis can get his raise pass that 18M a year start that he is limited to now. Trez can opt in if he chooses and make 11M for a year and get early bird rights. Morris can get his raise and take the salary of a guy like Wes with early bird rights.
The best hope is you win a ring. Marc retires and gets his money that he took a wink wink deal like Duncan for with 2 years when he had better free agent offers including from Toronto. Dudley plays Haslem for another year on the bench. Wes walks away to a new team role, but you give his 3 mil plus salary to Markieff, BAE like money without the exception. Then you use Caruso to get you a nice trade exemption when some team over pays for him. You match THT. KCP and Kuzma comeback. Bron and AD get real rest from a real off season. Drummond takes the tax mle. The 2 ways get released to sign two guards to be developed like Tucker and Caruso were. Jones gets a contract like what Cook got which was unguaranteed but at the minimum. Drummond takes the tax MLE and your word you will take care of him. Call up Javale for the minimum that is guaranteed. Then wait to buyout season next year and after Rondo has broek the Clippers down and let him retire a Laker after he breaks Kawhi and PG when he tells them straight up what he thinks of them
So in other words Drummond is gone after this season.
Short of getting a movie deal, being a spokesman for AIG, or the first member of Team Lebron for his shoe line which he wanted to sign Luka for .. yep
I mean you never know, Jeanie might have the juice her dad had. Jeanies pops got Rick Fox to give up millions on the I will take care of you later promise, and Jerry followed through and paid him later. Kobe cut Jerry a discount too by not going for free agency before th e 3 peat and jerry paid him back later. If Jeanie can sell him on a discount next year of half his value, then make it up later, she’s truly her daddy’s daughter. And I say half his value because really 8-12 mil is the going rate for him, just look at Plumlee, Harrell, Ibaka, and Triesten while Noel, Javale, and Dwight get less than that and Aldridge and Blake are looking at bae to vet min for the rest of their days too
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One interesting thing I noticed along those lines, from the interview... When the reporter from the OC Register (**** paper) asks him basically why the lakers because they can't sign him after this season anyway, like why a half a season rental? He gets this confused look on his face and looks away for a moment... Like either he didn't realize we couldn't sign him, or that wasn't the plan...
There are always ways to make deals happen, so maybe they have something worked out...
There are always ways to make deals happen, so maybe they have something worked out...
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Last year, we had Howard and McGee. This year, we have M Gasol, Trez and Drummond. The level at which Robber P is putting together this roster, I’m not worried about him doing it again next year.
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Another thing, Harrell can now move to the PF spot in the second unit, next to Gasol at C. Gasol can be a stretch five while Trez can not only pull his man down low but also operate more in that mid range that he’s so good at.
With Kuz and THT cutting from the three and two spots it gets very difficult for the opponent to guard our second unit.
This is why I want Schröder to come off the bench. A second unit of Schröder, THT, Kuzma, Trez, Gasol is badass.
The starters: Caruso, KCP, LeBron, AD, AD2.
Defense!!! There’s already enough scoring and playmaking ability between LBJ and AD and AD2. Especially with the screens AD2 sets.
With Kuz and THT cutting from the three and two spots it gets very difficult for the opponent to guard our second unit.
This is why I want Schröder to come off the bench. A second unit of Schröder, THT, Kuzma, Trez, Gasol is badass.
The starters: Caruso, KCP, LeBron, AD, AD2.
Defense!!! There’s already enough scoring and playmaking ability between LBJ and AD and AD2. Especially with the screens AD2 sets.
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Cant wait to see him play tonite.
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Will know pretty quickly whether he's just an empty stats guy on a low-level team, or a legit all-star big. Hoping this organization can unlock that competitive drive in him.
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bb22 wrote:Will know pretty quickly whether he's just an empty stats guy on a low-level team, or a legit all-star big. Hoping this organization can unlock that competitive drive in him.
I’m not too worried, though. He’s never played on a contender with two(!) top five players next to him (once both are healthy). I think he’ll shine like never before when they’re both back.
Even if he just bangs down low and pulls down 14 rebounds per game and gets cheap putbacks and sets hard screens, that’s huge!
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Going to have to lower our expectations a little bit the first game. I know for sure if Dre has a bad game, there will be A LOT of hot takes. I'm hoping I'm wrong and he comes out the gate swinging. I know for sure it's going to be a learning process for Dre, and I'm okay with that. Going to have to treat Dre like we did with AD on his contract year if we want any chance at resigning Dre.
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ScHoolBoy B wrote:Going to have to lower our expectations a little bit the first game. I know for sure if Dre has a bad game, there will be A LOT of hot takes. I'm hoping I'm wrong and he comes out the gate swinging. I know for sure it's going to be a learning process for Dre, and I'm okay with that. Going to have to treat Dre like we did with AD on his contract year if we want any chance at resigning Dre.
Yep, I think he’ll show his full worth first once LBJ and AD are back. Having said that, he has a lot to prove so I’d guess he’ll have a big first game.
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