DetroitSho wrote:What context is needed? If you say you're done with the team if X happens, then X happens.....be gone mf. No context necessary.thesack12 wrote:vege wrote:
Hilarius is taking things out of context.
Its completely out of context.
The situation then was quite different at that time.
1) At the time, Detroit hadn't traded away their 2nd rounders for the next 7 seasons, which is where they are now.
2) At the time, Bullock was fresh off being the 2nd best 3 point shooter in the entire league, and was making a mere $2.5 mil. In other words, he was valuable.
To try and tie in the reactions of the 2 trades together, is a short sighted exercise since no context was used.
And Bullock at the time of that trade was not much different than Ellington a month or so ago. The only context needed is some y'all need to stop using recency bias when assigning value to the team's assets. The league knew who Bullock was then and knew who Ellington was a few weeks back. Further context such as who are the potential suitors for that asset and what would they reasonably have to offer would also make sense.
But naw, let's just assume Detroit got the short end of every deal. Just because, well you know, because....
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First off many people are reactive in the moment, its a natural human emotion. Within the relevancy of this topic, what you are alluding to is no different than the scads of people who constantly say they are done with the team in game threads based on what they are seeing at the time.
Secondly, context absolutely needs to be considered if you are trying to compare people's thoughts on a transaction 3 years ago to one that is brand new. Especially, when the aim of your post was to attempt to call people out for hypocrisy for having 2 different opinions on 2 different transactions. The current landscape at the time of each move needs to be factored in to accurately compare. Otherwise, its a classic apples to oranges type evaluation.
If you consider the current Wayne Ellington situation similar to the Reggie Bullock situation in 2018, then I just flat out disagree entirely. For starters Bullock was 26 at the time he was traded and Ellington is currently 33 years old. Also, at the time Bullock had only been a rotation player for about 1.5 seasons, so to say the league knew who Bullock is pretty presumptuous. Secondly, Bullock sustained his shooting for an entire season, and as I mentioned was 2nd in the entire league that year at 44.5%, whereas Ellington got hot for for a 10-12 game span then crashed hard back to the mean. In addition, Ellington signed with Detroit for the league minimum which means all 29 other teams could of signed him for the same. While we'll never how many teams actually made him that offer, the smart money says its wasn't very many considering he chose to sign with a bottom dwelling team in the twilight of his career.
As far as recency bias and 2nd round picks go, until the league eliminates the 2nd round from the draft I will personally continue to hold strong on the belief that contrary to popular belief around here, they do actually have value. While admittedly, they aren't the hardest thing to acquire teams aren't just going to give them to Detroit out of charity. The Pistons will have to give up something of else of value to acquire them. Case in point the last 3 times Detroit acquired 2nd rounders on draft night, they gave Philly 2 future 2nds to draft Khyri Thomas, they gave Cleveland a 1st for multiple 2nds that they eventually pissed away, and they gave Utah raw cap space to draft Saben Lee.
My point is, Detroit isn't out there just using Gore's cash to get 2nd rounders, which would not require the sacrifice of baketball assets.
