2020-2021 Regular Season Game 48: Orlando Magic (16-31) at New Orleans Pelicans (21-25)

basketballRob · Post #501 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 4:39 am

I don't think this team has played it's best ball yet. We have some good 3PT shooters, and we'll have games where we'll make over 10.

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Post #502 » by **Knightro** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 4:40 am

The Effect wrote:So now we are giving up assets to get something we could get for free by playing the cards right?

*Maybe* get for free. There's no guarantees.

The Magic had 15 wins at the trade deadline. There's no guarantee that Minnesota or Houston is going to get to 16.

So it's possible Orlando could have lost every single game post trades, gone 0-28, and still ended up picking worse than 5th.

Dub_Sax · Post #503 » by **Dub_Sax** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 4:41 am

KillMonger wrote:
Dub_Sax wrote:
KillMonger wrote:and we're a good franchise...........

We're a franchise with a coaches and players that's ain't trying to lose games for a CHANCE to be LUCKY!

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you forgot that we're also a franchise that's been on the treadmill for a decade.....with one of the league's highest payrolls while being on the league's worst teams....the issue is deeper than players and coaches brodie

Let the past go.. that's what Weltman did. Check out the cap post trade..

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BCS · Post #504 » by **BCS** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 4:42 am

Some quickly forget the results of not tanking. 1 pick shy of Embid, Porzingis, Trae who could have turned to Luka. It is just tiring not learning from it and continuing on making the same mistakes and relying on pure luck to get us a top pick by giving ourselves a lesser chance at one. We have to put in some work for it, we can't just rely solely and heavily on just lotto luck like how we got Penny, that was an outlier.

It is what it is if we win games the right way, but if we are relying on 30 year old for the big plays and big shots, that is not the right way. That is just repeating the same mistakes that made us mediocre and might once again happen unless we get extremely lucky on the lottery again as in the 90's.

RookieStar · Post #505 » by **RookieStar** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 4:48 am

Knightro wrote:My guess on the rotation after this West Coast trip...

G: Anthony -> MCW
G: Harris -> Ross
F: Ennis - Porter Jr
F: Okeke -> Birch
C: WCJ -> Bamba

Hampton, unfortunately, I think will get the squeeze.

If it were me...

Anthony -> MCW
Harris -> Hampton
Ennis -> Ross
Okeke -> Porter Jr.
WCJ -> Bamba

with Birch out.

Where is our lord and savior the double BACON cheeaeburger?

Nyce_1 · Post #506 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 4:49 am

Knightro wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:One thing to beware of... they said on the broadcast that Harris will be available to play once they get back to Orlando.

Anthony too.

My guess is that Randle and Hampton both get squeezed.

I'm hoping Bacon getting squeezed over RJ.

Post #507 » by **Knightro** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 4:50 am

RookieStar wrote:Where is our lord and savior the double BACON cheeaeburger?

Jeez. I totally forgot about him.

Maybe Porter gets squeezed too?

RookieStar · Post #508 » by **RookieStar** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 4:54 am

Knightro wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Where is our lord and savior the double BACON cheeaeburger?

Jeez. I totally forgot about him.

Maybe Porter gets squeezed too?

In a perfect world qe shouldve bought put Ennis and Bacon cuz the contenders needed them for their finals run.

Then i woke up and realized no one wants them except us. lol

Nyce_1 · Post #509 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:02 am

next season, when we close games out with Isaac/Okeke/WCJ....watch TF out.

I can't wait to see what Harris & Cole look like in a few games with these guys.

KillMonger · Post #510 » by **KillMonger** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:03 am

BCS wrote:Some quickly forget the results of not tanking. 1 pick shy of Embid, Porzingis, Trae who could have turned to Luka. It is just tiring not learning from it and continuing on making the same mistakes and relying on pure luck to get us a top pick by giving ourselves a lesser chance at one. We have to put in some work for it, we can't just rely solely and heavily on just lotto luck like how we got Penny, that was an outlier.

It is what it is if we win games the right way, but if we are relying on 30 year old for the big plays and big shots, that is not the right way. That is just repeating the same mistakes that made us mediocre and might once again happen unless we get extremely lucky on the lottery again as in the 90's.

we need our batman....when we had vuc and company all we had was some rotation players, nice complimentary players(AG+Evan+Ross) and a robin(Vuc) but no batman.....my fear is history repeating itself, this team now has a few nice complimentary players but that's it at this point....we will see going forward....

basketballRob · Post #511 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:03 am

33 pts., 17 rebs., combined for Mo and WCJ.

Hopefully they both stay energetic and not let the lack of playing time get them down.

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Ducklett · Post #512 » by **Ducklett** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:06 am

When we pick Alperen Şengün with the 10th pick in the draft its going to be NOT 1 NOT 2 NOT 3 NOT 4.... rebuilds

The Real Dalic · Post #513 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:06 am

With a chance to grab another solid rookie with Chicago's pick as well.

The Real Dalic · Post #514 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:10 am

Nyce_1 wrote:next season, when we close games out with Isaac/Okeke/WCJ....watch TF out.

I can't wait to see what Harris & Cole look like in a few games with these guys.

Fultz as well hopefully. Fultz should theoretically fit in much more with this new team than the last. Shooters everywhere and stronger rolling big men. Vuc is obviously better for now, but having more lpb options and dunkers for Fultz should be better from the C postion. Plus the fact that both bigs can hit the 3 at respectable levels as well.

The ceiling to this team isn't where we need it just yet, but it definitely got higher. We need to add to it. But in 2 years, we can maybe start the process of becoming a dangerous team if the FO handles their assets correctly.

The Real Dalic · Post #515 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:12 am

The Real Dalic wrote:
Knightro wrote:With a chance to grab another solid rookie with Chicago's pick as well.

To be fair, I stuck Scottie Barnes in there. ESPN has him going 9th right now and so I slotted him in with the CHI pick.

Umm.... How did I post this when it wasn't me?... lol

The Effect · Post #516 » by **The Effect** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:12 am

Knightro wrote:
The Effect wrote:10 years of rebuilding around mediocre players, only to rebuild around more mediocre players and im suppose to be happy because we beat resting clippers and pelicans teams?

Nobody said you have to be happy about them winning, but let's also be realistic about what's going on.

This idea that the Magic are "rebuilding around mediocre players" is just nonsense. The only player they've made any sort of tangible long-term commitment to isn't even playing this season.

At least 5 of the players on the roster right now won't be here next year, and maybe more than that.

A 28-year-old complete scrub on a two-way deal played 35 minutes tonight at point guard and played terribly at that. A pro-tanking move if there ever was one.

What do you want Clifford to do? Tell these guys to miss shots and turn the ball over on purpose? That isn't how it works.

Isaac and fultz both got big pay days, they aren't going anywhere
Okeke is clearly not going anywhere
I'll bet that cole isn't going anywhere, same with Hampton (apparently that was the hold up in the denver trade)
WCjr isn't going anywhere
Ross isn't going anywhere (if he was, he would of been traded last week)
Harris is making 20m next year, no one's taking him and plus apparently weham wanted him for his leadership, so he definitely will be back next year and maybe longer
Otto is a FA, but could easily see him back if he takes a more reasonable deal
Who knows about bamba, might be back might not

So that's basically the core.....I'm not seeing any future superstars....I'm not seeing any money to sign a FA star (or a star that would want to sign). Not seeing a superstar coming via the 9th and 10th picks....

What I do see is a team that's a solid 6-8 seed next year (if healthy), so right back to what we were
A mediocre team with no stars that's gonna be happy to just make the playoffs next year

The Real Dalic · Post #517 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:16 am

The Real Dalic wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:
Knightro wrote:With a chance to grab another solid rookie with Chicago's pick as well.

To be fair, I stuck Scottie Barnes in there. ESPN has him going 9th right now and so I slotted him in with the CHI pick.

Umm.... How did I post this when it wasn't me?... lol

Also, my bad. Missed that Barnes kid you put in there as well. I don't know who he is, since I don't follow college sports, but I'll trust your judgement on it. Whoever we add with the Chicago pick is just icing on the cake. But maybe it's packaged instead to move up in the draft or to acquire another young player in a trade.

Post #518 » by **Knightro** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:19 am

The Real Dalic wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:
Knightro wrote:With a chance to grab another solid rookie with Chicago's pick as well.

To be fair, I stuck Scottie Barnes in there. ESPN has him going 9th right now and so I slotted him in with the CHI pick.

Umm.... How did I post this when it wasn't me?... lol

I hit edit instead of quote. My bad.

cedric76 · Post #519 » by **cedric76** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:47 am

KillMonger wrote:
Dub_Sax wrote:So let me get this straight, y'all pro tankers are hoping we LOSE games and that way we can get LUCKY and have a better CHANCE for a good pick?

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welcome to the nba my guy

Pro tanker are just dumb and don't understand basic math and basketball

cedric76 · Post #520 » by **cedric76** » Fri Apr 2, 2021 5:51 am

Nyce_1 wrote:next season, when we close games out with Isaac/Okeke/WCJ....watch TF out.

I can't wait to see what Harris & Cole look like in a few games with these guys.

Harris, Isaac, chuma and wcj, that s a crazy great defensive lineup

Add kelle to this and you are happy with your D when the game is on the line

In weham i trust

This team is full of 2 way players