Stone wrote:Time to transition back to DeAndre.....
Please no.
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Stone wrote:Time to transition back to DeAndre.....
Hello Brooklyn wrote:therealbig3 wrote:Claxton with only 8 minutes, while Griffin and LMA get 22 and 26 respectively.
Kind of mind-boggling to me, honestly. Yes, our offense struggled, and Griffin and LMA bring more to the table offensively, but we also struggled on defense, and were getting killed inside all game.
Don't think this game was as close as the final score indicates either. We played desperate basketball in the 4th quarter, and the closest we ever got was 7. We were down by as much as 18, and the Bulls honestly looked a little lackadaisical to even let us go on mini-runs, and then they would promptly answer back.
In my mind, this was a convincing win for the Bulls. Shut us down on offense and got whatever they wanted against our defense.
I just don't think putting in Claxton more when we desperately needed offense really moves the needle.
We lost because our offense was putrid. Neither Harris or Shamet could hit 3s. Kyrie was off. Everyone else sucked.
The Bulls were also hitting a ton of tough shots.
Sometimes losses are just nobodys fault. It was a bad game.
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Well I guess this was bit of an experimentation game for Nash.
therealbig3 wrote:I really liked TJ's hustle, defense, and 3pt shooting off the bench. And I mean, he was used as a combo guard on his previous teams, I actually felt like he could have been a solid PG off the bench, but he never really embraced that role, or the team never really asked him to. Not sure what the issue was there. Sucks to see him go down though, that was scary-looking, just completely non-contact. I mentioned if we could have signed Jeff Teague prior to him getting picked up by Milwaukee, he's been knocking down the 3 ball at an elite clip this year and he's a capable backup PG. Oh well.
With Harden and KD back soon, we won't really need a guard off the bench in the same way, because all 3 of the big 3 can handle playmaking duties, primarily Harden when he's out there, but Kyrie and KD when he's on the bench.
Sucks to also see Shamet hurt his ankle pretty much as soon as he came back. He's been turning it on since his awful start, and has been a valuable shooter off the bench.
CalamityX12 wrote:I do hope, if I were to throw my hat into the overreact ring, that this isn't a sign of how minutes and roles are going forward for both lma n Griffin.
I wasn't looking at them to get bulk share nor starters matchups.
I hope this is only to get their legs in with us for now
therealbig3 wrote:DarkXaero wrote:Kyrie had 15 assists with just 1 turnover, that's extremely impressive despite the crap shooting night.
The 1 TO is impressive given how much he had the ball in his hands, but the 15 assists to me is because he dominated the basketball. I actually think he was still a bit of a ball hog and was taking a lot of contested shots when there were open shooters around him.
C game from him, at best, imo.
HardenGoat wrote:This game shows how important Harden is running point. Kyrie went cold and he got zero foul calls, very frustrating. I think Nash used this game as an experiment and was saving Claxton for tonight’s game knowing Harden will be back. He also limited Harris who plays better when Harden is out there. This one had the feel of the throwaway game of a back to back.
MrDollarBills wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:therealbig3 wrote:Claxton with only 8 minutes, while Griffin and LMA get 22 and 26 respectively.
Kind of mind-boggling to me, honestly. Yes, our offense struggled, and Griffin and LMA bring more to the table offensively, but we also struggled on defense, and were getting killed inside all game.
Don't think this game was as close as the final score indicates either. We played desperate basketball in the 4th quarter, and the closest we ever got was 7. We were down by as much as 18, and the Bulls honestly looked a little lackadaisical to even let us go on mini-runs, and then they would promptly answer back.
In my mind, this was a convincing win for the Bulls. Shut us down on offense and got whatever they wanted against our defense.
I just don't think putting in Claxton more when we desperately needed offense really moves the needle.
We lost because our offense was putrid. Neither Harris or Shamet could hit 3s. Kyrie was off. Everyone else sucked.
The Bulls were also hitting a ton of tough shots.
Sometimes losses are just nobodys fault. It was a bad game.
This. Brush this aside and move on to tomorrow
mycorrizae wrote:Harden unlocks this team's offense in a way Kyrie doesn't. KD coming back will help, but I think things will continue to look kinda clunky until Harden is back, Kyrie just isn't a floor general.
HardenGoat wrote:This game shows how important Harden is running point. Kyrie went cold and he got zero foul calls, very frustrating. I think Nash used this game as an experiment and was saving Claxton for tonight’s game knowing Harden will be back. He also limited Harris who plays better when Harden is out there. This one had the feel of the throwaway game of a back to back.
MrDollarBills wrote:CalamityX12 wrote:I do hope, if I were to throw my hat into the overreact ring, that this isn't a sign of how minutes and roles are going forward for both lma n Griffin.
I wasn't looking at them to get bulk share nor starters matchups.
I hope this is only to get their legs in with us for now
Nash said he isn't going to use LMA and Griffin like that going forward.
LMA should start, Griffin should be with the 2nd unit.
Harden/Irving/Harris/KD/LMA
with Green, Claxton, Brown, Shamet and Griffin in reserve roles.
therealbig3 wrote:Claxton with only 8 minutes, while Griffin and LMA get 22 and 26 respectively.
Kind of mind-boggling to me, honestly.
Yes, our offense struggled, and Griffin and LMA bring more to the table offensively, but we also struggled on defense, and were getting killed inside all game.
Whiskey Slick wrote:I'm more worried about the injuries to our backcourt than I am about a single loss.
Chiozza could be in for some seriously increased minutes.
I'd much rather be healthy, but IMO Chiozza is can ball. It's insurance policy that might be about to payoff.
DarkXaero wrote: We got off to a slow start in 1st quarter initially, but we were rolling after that, getting a 9 pt lead early. Then the bench unit came in, and the offense stagnated to a halt, while the Bulls kept chipping away (including getting into the foul bonus situation early). The hope was that the starting lineup would come back in and pick up where they left off, but they sucked and the game completely shifted. Once the momentum slipped away with the extended bench time at end of 1st/2nd quarter, Nets never recovered after that.