Killian Hayes set to return Saturday vs Knicks

[flow]

Bey's not playing summer league. He's a solidified starting/6th-man player at this point. Stewart probably won't, either.

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[Manocad]

Calling it early. He is a bust and was a bad pick. 4-6 better Guards picked after him. Here’s hoping we get a PG with a top 5 pick.

You were saying?

[treefi]

Hayes looked like a future star tonight.

[Han Solo]

He looked like a point guard that will lead the league in assists at some point. He’s going to be good man.

[Pharaoh]

But but but those 7 games!

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[440BB]

Hayes being forced to miss nearly 2/3 of the season may have worked in his favor in some ways. Returning to the lineup after Rose and Griffin were gone gave him a fresh start. Watching and learning his new teammates' tendencies and preferences seems to have helped him settle in at the point too.

Small sample size but Hayes looks like the player we thought we drafted. Hope he stays healthy and keeps growing his game.

It may be that Troy Weaver drafted four rotation players, possibly one or two starters. I'm starting to think he has an eye for talent.

[Pharaoh]

Careful praising our GM too much on here.

There's still people who believe he's got no idea what he's doing

Hayes being forced to miss nearly 2/3 of the season may have worked in his favor in some ways. Returning to the lineup after Rose and Griffin were gone gave him a fresh start. Watching and learning his new teammates' tendencies and preferences seems to have helped him settle in at the point too.

Small sample size but Hayes looks like the player we thought we drafted. Hope he stays healthy and keeps growing his game.

It may be that Troy Weaver drafted four rotation players, possibly one or two starters. I'm starting to think he has an eye for talent.

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[vic]

Not a bust, but not a star either.

https://www.theringer.com/video/2021/4/29/22409394/killian-hayes-is-not-a-bust

His defense and passing was always good from the beginning of the year, but as I said before, star pGs don't have trouble scoring at all 3 levels.

Good thing is, we don't need him to be a star. Passing and defense is enough at the point guard position.

I'd much rather have this year's pick be the superstar on the team. A tall wing like Cade, Evan (who I see as a wing PF), Green, or even Kuminga can develop in to the 2-way shot creation stars for a contender.

But hopefully Killian will spend this summer learning to be more aggressive and start making more layups and getting more balance on his outside shots.

[Manocad]

Not a bust, but not a star either.

https://www.theringer.com/video/2021/4/29/22409394/killian-hayes-is-not-a-bust

His defense and passing was always good from the beginning of the year, but as I said before, star pGs don't have trouble scoring at all 3 levels.

Good thing is, we don't need him to be a star. Passing and defense is enough at the point guard position.

I'd much rather have this year's pick be the superstar on the team. A tall wing like Cade, Evan (who I see as a wing PF), Green, or even Kuminga can develop in to the 2-way shot creation stars for a contender.

But hopefully Killian will spend this summer learning to be more aggressive and start making more layups and getting more balance on his outside shots.

Good thing no one with realistic expectations thought he'd be a star in his rookie season, injured or not. There are some players who you can see being stars in the NBA as a rookie, but those are your Jordans, Lebrons, Shaqs, etc. Not a PG, especially not a one or two and done, who is a typical PG (i.e. not Lebron or Magic).

[zeebneeb]

Not a bust, but not a star either.

https://www.theringer.com/video/2021/4/29/22409394/killian-hayes-is-not-a-bust

His defense and passing was always good from the beginning of the year, but as I said before, star pGs don't have trouble scoring at all 3 levels.

Good thing is, we don't need him to be a star. Passing and defense is enough at the point guard position.

I'd much rather have this year's pick be the superstar on the team. A tall wing like Cade, Evan (who I see as a wing PF), Green, or even Kuminga can develop in to the 2-way shot creation stars for a contender.

But hopefully Killian will spend this summer learning to be more aggressive and start making more layups and getting more balance on his outside shots.

Again, declarative statements;

"Not a bust, but not a star either"

Never, ever, age well, and certainly make very little sense after 17 pro games.

[Snakebites]

No declarative statements, or at least not predictions.

I will say that to be a rotation player or starter in the long run he’s got to be a better scorer than we’ve seen. He’s a nice passer but his scoring is so bad that it’s too easy for defenses to slag on him. That will put a ceiling on the impact of his passing.

[zeebneeb]

No declarative statements, or at least not predictions.

I will say that to be a rotation player or starter in the long run he’s got to be a better scorer than we’ve seen. He’s a nice passer but his scoring is so bad that it’s too easy for defenses to slag on him. That will put a ceiling on the impact of his passing.

Now this is something I can agree with, and I'll add that he absolutely, positively, has to develop his right hand. That is what will make him a better scorer more then anything else.

His defense, and his passing are already there. I'm just hoping he is willing to put in the work needed to complete his game, and doesn't become one of those slacker athletes with talent, but no drive to become better.

The team is going to be his, if he puts in the work.

[tmorgan]

We need Killian. There’s almost no one on the roster that SHOULD be creating their own shot right now. Maybe we draft one, that would be nice. Grant does it, but only passably well. Stewart certainly doesn’t, Bey mostly doesn’t. Jackson does, but he’s kind of insane in his approach to it.

Killian gets people good shots when he isn’t turning it over with his suspect handle. Go dribble, Killian, a lot. With your right hand. Put up a ton of shots, off the catch, off the dribble. Refine the floater. If he takes a big step forward, so does the team.

[El Chivo]

Hayes must mold his offense after Rajon Rondo's.

[DetroitSho]

Hayes must mold his offense after Rajon Rondo's.

Said no one ever. Ugh, no.

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[Manocad]

Hayes must mold his offense after Rajon Rondo's.

Said no one ever. Ugh, no.

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Well, that statement could actually be interpreted two ways:

Hayes needs to/should mold his after Rondo (agreed--ugh, no)
Hayes must be trying to mold his offense after Rondo, i.e. trying to be Rondo; like "You're dumb AF, bro; you must eat paint chips"

[flow]

Lol. Please. We'll be doing cartwheels if Hayes approaches Rondo status as a floor general. He's a savant.

[tmorgan]

Lol. Please. We'll be doing cartwheels if Hayes approaches Rondo status as a floor general. He's a savant.

He really is. And he has to be, because he’s one of the surliest dickbags on the planet. No one likes him, but you have to respect him.

[FloridaMan78]

Baby steps for me. If he can just get his runner that would huge for him. Being able to dribble right would be nice. Year after that a solid 15-17ft jump shot. Right hand layups then the three. Right now he has no confidence in any of that. Right now he really needs that runner to fall so the defender doesn’t stay with Stewart every time.

[Snakebites]

I too would prefer Hayes NOT to end up like Rondo offensively. I was never a fan of his offensive game.