DirtyDez wrote:Lost92Bricks wrote:This team is easily better than any of the Clippers teams.
The 13-14’ Clippers were 2nd in Net and SRS despite Paul missing games. They lost to the KD-Russ Thunder.
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DirtyDez wrote:Lost92Bricks wrote:This team is easily better than any of the Clippers teams.
The 13-14’ Clippers were 2nd in Net and SRS despite Paul missing games. They lost to the KD-Russ Thunder.
dygaction wrote:grumpysaddle wrote:dygaction wrote:
They could be but I don't think any team is afraid of meeting them the first round.
I think most teams wouldn't want to meet them in the first round. This isn't the Suns of 2 seasons ago.
vs. Teams Over .500 19 6 76.0
Trust me, when you can choose among healthy Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz, Clippers, and Suns, the choice is simple. A 6'0, 35 yr old, injury prone CP3 is the only player on the team with mention-worthy playoff experience.
dhsilv2 wrote:Dupp wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:
Being deeper than 8-9 is worthless in the playoffs.
Not necessary. But being deeper also doesn’t mean better. It just depends. Teams like 11 Dallas, 14 spurs went pretty deep into their rotation. Maybe 16 warriors too? Sure there’s heaps.
Generally 8-9 is normal but if you have the talent I don’t think it’s worthless.
Warriors went 8 deep in 2016 with in guys missing games a few guys like Clark, Ezeili and Speights got some time on the court. I'm not really sure that was all that needed though.
14 spurs went 9 unless you count the random minutes bonner got.
11 mavs went 9 deep and really that was it. Not really anyone else to consider.
But yeah, you're not wrong that it's nice to have more depth but in terms of actual impact, it's really not needed without injuries or if you had some realize nicely specialized players (what we used to call role players).
spanishninja wrote:Uh, my guy, Crowder was in the FINALS last year and even Torrey Craig was in the WCF against the Lakers.dygaction wrote:grumpysaddle wrote:I think most teams wouldn't want to meet them in the first round. This isn't the Suns of 2 seasons ago.
vs. Teams Over .500 19 6 76.0
Trust me, when you can choose among healthy Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz, Clippers, and Suns, the choice is simple. A 6'0, 35 yr old, injury prone CP3 is the only player on the team with mention-worthy playoff experience.
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Metallikid wrote:SunsLyf3 wrote:Metallikid wrote:
Doesn't mean a single thing for players like Booker and Ayton who have never played a playoff game let alone a Game 7 of the second round or a conference finals game.
It does for players like Craig, Saric, Crowder and CP3 who are key rotation players(cp3 a star) and have experienced lengthy runs before.
Yes, it does, but when two of your best three have not been seasoned at all yet, you have no chance of winning the title. And I mean none. I don't even think they have a 10% chance to make the WCF. I would put more trust in the Blazers.
spanishninja wrote:Uh, my guy, Crowder was in the FINALS last year and even Torrey Craig was in the WCF against the Lakers.dygaction wrote:grumpysaddle wrote:I think most teams wouldn't want to meet them in the first round. This isn't the Suns of 2 seasons ago.
vs. Teams Over .500 19 6 76.0
Trust me, when you can choose among healthy Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz, Clippers, and Suns, the choice is simple. A 6'0, 35 yr old, injury prone CP3 is the only player on the team with mention-worthy playoff experience.
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DirtyDez wrote:The 13-14’ Clippers were 2nd in Net and SRS despite Paul missing games. They lost to the KD-Russ Thunder.
Dupp wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:Dupp wrote:
Not necessary. But being deeper also doesn’t mean better. It just depends. Teams like 11 Dallas, 14 spurs went pretty deep into their rotation. Maybe 16 warriors too? Sure there’s heaps.
Generally 8-9 is normal but if you have the talent I don’t think it’s worthless.
Warriors went 8 deep in 2016 with in guys missing games a few guys like Clark, Ezeili and Speights got some time on the court. I'm not really sure that was all that needed though.
14 spurs went 9 unless you count the random minutes bonner got.
11 mavs went 9 deep and really that was it. Not really anyone else to consider.
But yeah, you're not wrong that it's nice to have more depth but in terms of actual impact, it's really not needed without injuries or if you had some realize nicely specialized players (what we used to call role players).
I’m almost certain mavs went 10 or 11 deep. Meaning all those guys made an impact in one playoff series. Obviously the finals the rotation tightened.
Guess I was wrong about the other too. They were more guesses though.
It just doesn’t happen much because it’s hard to have that many contributors on a good team salary wise and having ok players being ok with not getting a huge role.
SunsLyf3 wrote:Metallikid wrote:SunsLyf3 wrote:It does for players like Craig, Saric, Crowder and CP3 who are key rotation players(cp3 a star) and have experienced lengthy runs before.
Yes, it does, but when two of your best three have not been seasoned at all yet, you have no chance of winning the title. And I mean none. I don't even think they have a 10% chance to make the WCF. I would put more trust in the Blazers.
Yeah and Chris Paul is old and the best the Suns will do is a play in game. Heard it before.
SunsLyf3 wrote:Metallikid wrote:SunsLyf3 wrote:It does for players like Craig, Saric, Crowder and CP3 who are key rotation players(cp3 a star) and have experienced lengthy runs before.
Yes, it does, but when two of your best three have not been seasoned at all yet, you have no chance of winning the title. And I mean none. I don't even think they have a 10% chance to make the WCF. I would put more trust in the Blazers.
Yeah and Chris Paul is old and the best the Suns will do is a play in game. Heard it before.
dhsilv2 wrote:Dupp wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:
Warriors went 8 deep in 2016 with in guys missing games a few guys like Clark, Ezeili and Speights got some time on the court. I'm not really sure that was all that needed though.
14 spurs went 9 unless you count the random minutes bonner got.
11 mavs went 9 deep and really that was it. Not really anyone else to consider.
But yeah, you're not wrong that it's nice to have more depth but in terms of actual impact, it's really not needed without injuries or if you had some realize nicely specialized players (what we used to call role players).
I’m almost certain mavs went 10 or 11 deep. Meaning all those guys made an impact in one playoff series. Obviously the finals the rotation tightened.
Guess I was wrong about the other too. They were more guesses though.
It just doesn’t happen much because it’s hard to have that many contributors on a good team salary wise and having ok players being ok with not getting a huge role.
Mavs played 12 guys in the playoffs that year period.
Hayword played 18 of 21 games and 15.3 minutes, so we could count him as the 9th man.
Ian Mahinmi - 6 games 5.5 minutes per game
Brian Cardinal - 9 games 6.1 per game
Corey Brewer - 6 games 3.8 per game
Those are your other 3 guys who played at all. 10 deep? What? I guess brewer had one good game and it was in a tough series vs the lakers? But that's kinda stretching it isn't it?
Optms wrote:Lost92Bricks wrote:This team is easily better than any of the Clippers teams.
Those Cippers team were second round fodder. This Suns team looks like first round fodder. If there was an overachieving award, they'd get it handedly.