Timberwolves are endangering themselves

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Re: Timberwolves are endangering themselves 

Post#41 » by HotelVitale » Thu Apr 8, 2021 9:46 pm

jamaalstar21 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
jamaalstar21 wrote: At least one franchise has to permanently give up. We can't all be doing the same thing: "trying". When everyone zigs, someone must zag.
I think OKC already did, SGA, Horford and Bazely are nowhere to be seen. But all those undrafted rookies, 2nd round picks and castoffs don’t seem to be cooperating. They have recently beaten fellow lottery teams Houston, Toronto and Minnesota which is taking them out of the running for the top pick.
I mean give up permanently. The Wolves are the only team that could pull it off. Just go full zen and embrace action through inaction.


True, not enough teams consider the Baumer option:
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Re: Timberwolves are endangering themselves 

Post#42 » by Wolveswin » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:27 pm

Dan Z wrote:
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clyde21 wrote:do Wolves fans prefer to keep their top 3 this year or have it convey this year and go into next year with a chance at a Holmgren/Bates (if he reclasses)?
if
Both. They need to trade Towns to Warriors and get it over with. Then attach Beasley and/or Rubio expiring to #13 (Warriors 2021 1st) and eat a bad contract to move up in 2021 draft (looking at you Rockets or Wizards or Cavs).


I know the Wizards and Rockets have big contracts that aren't very good (Westbrook and Wall), but I doubt they'd trade down to the #13 just to get rid of them. No team has a bad season and wants to end up with #13, plus Westbrook has had his moments where he's good.

I imagine the Warriors would trade the Timberwolves pick for Towns, but I don't know how salary would match up. I also don't think it's a good idea for the Wolves, but that's my two cents.

I think a win-win-win offer is there on draft day...

Wizards:
Westbrook + Bertans + #6
FOR
Russell + Wiggins + #13

Warriors:
Wiggins + Wiseman + Picks (see below)
FOR
Towns + Bertans

Wolves:
Towns + Russell
FOR
Westbrook (buyout, he would want out of MN bad)
Wiseman
2021 Wolves 1st Returned*
#6 (2021 Wizards 1st)
2022 Warriors 1st (unprotected)
2023 Warriors 1st Swap (unprotected)
2026 Warriors 1st (unprotected)

*Wolves are more likely to trade Towns if gifting Warriors 2021 #4, but one can also see Towns trade request if he doesn’t want to go another year watching a top 3 rookie develop as Wolves “big” offseason only upgrade.

Warriors get Towns.
Towns
Green
Oubre (re-sign) or Bertans
Thompson
Curry

Wizards can sell Beal that Russell and Wiggins are actually core age and the start of surrounding him with younger talent as this becomes his team long term (through a re-sign).
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Re: Timberwolves are endangering themselves 

Post#43 » by DaPessimist » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:43 pm

I'd rather take the Wolves unprotected pick in 2022.
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Re: Timberwolves are endangering themselves 

Post#44 » by brutalitops » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:47 pm

Would rather play good basketball with dlo and Kat then stressing on adding a top 3 pick. We have the foundation to not suck.ildnrather start a culture of winning right now then push it back another 3 months for a 4% better chance to keep our pick
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Re: Timberwolves are endangering themselves 

Post#45 » by Dan Z » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:53 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
Wolveswin wrote: if
Both. They need to trade Towns to Warriors and get it over with. Then attach Beasley and/or Rubio expiring to #13 (Warriors 2021 1st) and eat a bad contract to move up in 2021 draft (looking at you Rockets or Wizards or Cavs).


I know the Wizards and Rockets have big contracts that aren't very good (Westbrook and Wall), but I doubt they'd trade down to the #13 just to get rid of them. No team has a bad season and wants to end up with #13, plus Westbrook has had his moments where he's good.

I imagine the Warriors would trade the Timberwolves pick for Towns, but I don't know how salary would match up. I also don't think it's a good idea for the Wolves, but that's my two cents.

I think a win-win-win offer is there on draft day...

Wizards:
Westbrook + Bertans + #6
FOR
Russell + Wiggins + #13

Warriors:
Wiggins + Wiseman + Picks (see below)
FOR
Towns + Bertans

Wolves:
Towns + Russell
FOR
Westbrook (buyout, he would want out of MN bad)
Wiseman
2021 Wolves 1st Returned*
#6 (2021 Wizards 1st)
2022 Warriors 1st (unprotected)
2023 Warriors 1st Swap (unprotected)
2026 Warriors 1st (unprotected)

*Wolves are more likely to trade Towns if gifting Warriors 2021 #4, but one can also see Towns trade request if he doesn’t want to go another year watching a top 3 rookie develop as Wolves “big” offseason only upgrade.

Warriors get Towns.
Towns
Green
Oubre (re-sign) or Bertans
Thompson
Curry

Wizards can sell Beal that Russell and Wiggins are actually core age and the start of surrounding him with younger talent as this becomes his team long term (through a re-sign).


Why would the Wizards want Wiggins contract? If they trade down they'd want to shed salary, not get big salary back. You think Beal would buy into that? I don't think anyone looks at Russell and Wiggins and think they have a history of winning.

Also, I'd be surprised if the Wolves buy Westrbook out. He has 40 something million per year for the next two seasons. That's 80 million!
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Re: Timberwolves are endangering themselves 

Post#46 » by JR Rider » Fri Apr 9, 2021 1:23 am

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