Official 2021 NBA Draft Thread

RookieStar · Post #1821 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:22 pm

Hey guys.. semi-OT here but there is this trade offer in the trade board where a lot of fans outside Magic that thinks this is a fair deal.

I dunno... Im scratching my head but what do you think?

It is basically :

SGA for ORL 1st ( probably top 3) + CHI 1st (probably top 10) + either of Cole or RJ

Is SGA really that good? That trade offer is probably better than what Harden got.

Nyce_1 · Post #1822 » by **Nyce_1** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:12 am

RookieStar wrote:Hey guys.. semi-OT here but there is this trade offer in the trade board where a lot of fans outside Magic that thinks this is a fair deal.

I dunno... Im scratching my head but what do you think?

It is basically :

SGA for ORL 1st ( probably top 3) + CHI 1st (probably top 10) + either of Cole or RJ

Is SGA really that good? That trade offer is probably better than what Harden got.

he's really good but i rather role with Fultz + the 2 picks

Message Boar · Post #1823 » by **Message Boar** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:31 am

^ yeah SGA is nice but that's a pass for me. Also the longer team/cost-control on next year's rookies are a plus, even if they're not as good combined as SGA. Ultimately I think he falls just short of being a true "franchise player".

KillMonger · Post #1824 » by **KillMonger** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:40 am

RookieStar wrote:Hey guys.. semi-OT here but there is this trade offer in the trade board where a lot of fans outside Magic that thinks this is a fair deal.

I dunno... Im scratching my head but what do you think?

It is basically :

SGA for ORL 1st ( probably top 3) + CHI 1st (probably top 10) + either of Cole or RJ

Is SGA really that good? That trade offer is probably better than what Harden got.

no he's not that good...i would probably entertain that for Ja Morant but SGA isn't worth what could potentially be a #1 Overall pick and on top of that an additional top 10 pick and a past first rounder in Cole or RJ...nowhere near that good

basketballRob · Post #1825 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:44 am

Draftnet has us taking Green and Kispert. I'd take that right now.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

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Post #1826 » by **Bensational** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:49 am

I’m getting giddy for Giddey. He’s like the Australian wing version of Poku.

I don’t think he’s a star, but I like his glue-guy potential. If his 3pt shot becomes reliable he’s a 6’8 PG/2nd playmaker on offense and a wing (probs a 3) on defense.

Green + Giddey could be an exciting combo.

MagicFan101 · Post #1827 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:51 am

RookieStar wrote:Hey guys.. semi-OT here but there is this trade offer in the trade board where a lot of fans outside Magic that thinks this is a fair deal.

I dunno... Im scratching my head but what do you think?

It is basically :

SGA for ORL 1st ( probably top 3) + CHI 1st (probably top 10) + either of Cole or RJ

Is SGA really that good? That trade offer is probably better than what Harden got.

SGA for the Chicago pick + Cole?

Hmm, that’s a discussion we can have.

As soon as you talk about our own pick it’s a nonstarter. Absolutely not. SGA is nowhere near worth what Cade, Suggs or Green could be.

Post #1828 » by **SOUL** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:59 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Hey guys.. semi-OT here but there is this trade offer in the trade board where a lot of fans outside Magic that thinks this is a fair deal.

I dunno... Im scratching my head but what do you think?

It is basically :

SGA for ORL 1st ( probably top 3) + CHI 1st (probably top 10) + either of Cole or RJ

Is SGA really that good? That trade offer is probably better than what Harden got.

SGA for the Chicago pick + Cole?

Hmm, that’s a discussion we can have.

As soon as you talk about our own pick it’s a nonstarter. Absolutely not. SGA is nowhere near worth what Cade, Suggs or Green could be.

A discussion? Magic take that and run easily (Chicago pick + Cole).

I'd do that if our first pick is outside of the top 5, but if it's top 3 or something I'd roll with one of those guys you mentioned. SGA is already legit all-star level at 22.

PrimeThyme · Post #1829 » by **PrimeThyme** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:00 am

RookieStar wrote:Hey guys.. semi-OT here but there is this trade offer in the trade board where a lot of fans outside Magic that thinks this is a fair deal.

I dunno... Im scratching my head but what do you think?

It is basically :

SGA for ORL 1st ( probably top 3) + CHI 1st (probably top 10) + either of Cole or RJ

Is SGA really that good? That trade offer is probably better than what Harden got.

That's an excellent question.

I would do Orl 1st, CHI 1st, && Cole for Shai, personally. Unless we had the first overall pick. SGA is only 22 and is what we hope and pray one of these young guards will develop into. I don't think people realize how good/impactful he actually is.

We could still move Ross, Let Porter walk, Ennis walk, and position ourselves for a top 5 pick next season. Then once resigning Shai we will still have some cap space to work with to field a more competitive roster in 2022/2023 with Shai/Isaac/Carter hitting their primes and the top 5 pick/RJ filling out the rotation. The Chicago pick also comes back that year which could easily fall in the top 7.

Making a move for Shai isn't a win-now one. It's a move for a young star still on a rookie contract.

RookieStar · Post #1830 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:08 am

SOUL wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Hey guys.. semi-OT here but there is this trade offer in the trade board where a lot of fans outside Magic that thinks this is a fair deal.

I dunno... Im scratching my head but what do you think?

It is basically :

SGA for ORL 1st ( probably top 3) + CHI 1st (probably top 10) + either of Cole or RJ

Is SGA really that good? That trade offer is probably better than what Harden got.

SGA for the Chicago pick + Cole?

Hmm, that’s a discussion we can have.

As soon as you talk about our own pick it’s a nonstarter. Absolutely not. SGA is nowhere near worth what Cade, Suggs or Green could be.

A discussion? Magic take that and run easily (Chicago pick + Cole).

I'd do that if our first pick is outside of the top 5, but if it's top 3 or something I'd roll with one of those guys you mentioned. SGA is already legit all-star level at 22.

Did you guys purposely MISREAD what i wrote? it said OUR pick AND the CHI pick AND one of colr or rj

Post #1831 » by **SOUL** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:13 am

RookieStar wrote:
SOUL wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
SGA for the Chicago pick + Cole?

Hmm, that’s a discussion we can have.

As soon as you talk about our own pick it’s a nonstarter. Absolutely not. SGA is nowhere near worth what Cade, Suggs or Green could be.

A discussion? Magic take that and run easily (Chicago pick + Cole).

I'd do that if our first pick is outside of the top 5, but if it's top 3 or something I'd roll with one of those guys you mentioned. SGA is already legit all-star level at 22.

Did you guys purposely MISREAD what i wrote? it said OUR pick AND the CHI pick AND one of colr or rj

Yeah, I'm saying I'd def do it with only one pick (like MagicFan said) but for me it would depend where our other pick fell. But obviously we wouldn't know where the pick would land ahead of time so that's what makes it a tough decision lol. Top 3 I probably don't do it.

The Effect · Post #1832 » by **The Effect** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:13 am

RookieStar wrote:
SOUL wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
SGA for the Chicago pick + Cole?

Hmm, that’s a discussion we can have.

As soon as you talk about our own pick it’s a nonstarter. Absolutely not. SGA is nowhere near worth what Cade, Suggs or Green could be.

A discussion? Magic take that and run easily (Chicago pick + Cole).

I'd do that if our first pick is outside of the top 5, but if it's top 3 or something I'd roll with one of those guys you mentioned. SGA is already legit all-star level at 22.

Did you guys purposely MISREAD what i wrote? it said OUR pick AND the CHI pick AND one of colr or rj

Did you misread what MagicFan101 said?
Chi+rj, yes
That plus our own pick=nonstarter, sga not worth that

RookieStar · Post #1833 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:16 am

ah wait my bad. ik the one who didnt read properly. so its a NO if you include OUR pick then? same here.

MagicFan101 · Post #1834 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:18 am

Sorry, I don’t see SGA as a franchise SUPER STAR.

I see him a guy who might make a few all star games. We had that in Vuc and it got us no where. I’m not selling the best pick we might have in years for another run at that.

RookieStar · Post #1835 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:23 am

The Effect wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
SOUL wrote:
A discussion? Magic take that and run easily (Chicago pick + Cole).

I'd do that if our first pick is outside of the top 5, but if it's top 3 or something I'd roll with one of those guys you mentioned. SGA is already legit all-star level at 22.

Did you guys purposely MISREAD what i wrote? it said OUR pick AND the CHI pick AND one of colr or rj

Did you misread what MagicFan101 said?
Chi+rj, yes
That plus our own pick=nonstarter, sga not worth that

yup. i owned up to it. i posted that i was the onr who didnt read properly. lol

but yeah for context, the trade hinges on a top 4 pick so it means our pick

RookieStar · Post #1836 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:24 am

SOUL wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
SOUL wrote:
A discussion? Magic take that and run easily (Chicago pick + Cole).

I'd do that if our first pick is outside of the top 5, but if it's top 3 or something I'd roll with one of those guys you mentioned. SGA is already legit all-star level at 22.

Did you guys purposely MISREAD what i wrote? it said OUR pick AND the CHI pick AND one of colr or rj

Yeah, I'm saying I'd def do it with only one pick (like MagicFan said) but for me it would depend where our other pick fell. But obviously we wouldn't know where the pick would land ahead of time so that's what makes it a tough decision lol. Top 3 I probably don't do it.

Yeah my bad i didnt read properly. and for context, the trade is based on SGA for a top 3/4 pick and thus means our pick.

KillMonger · Post #1837 » by **KillMonger** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:26 am

MagicFan101 wrote:Sorry, I don’t see SGA as a franchise SUPER STAR.

I see him a guy who might make a few all star games. We had that in Vuc and it got us no where. I’m not selling the best pick we might have in years for another run at that.

Agreed....from the film i've seen? he's not worth that kind of package

Post #1838 » by **SOUL** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:29 am

KillMonger wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Sorry, I don’t see SGA as a franchise SUPER STAR.

I see him a guy who might make a few all star games. We had that in Vuc and it got us no where. I’m not selling the best pick we might have in years for another run at that.

Agreed....from the film i've seen? he's not worth that kind of package

50/41/80 as a 22 year old guard is insanely good, and he has size.

I'd say it's a tough decision/no on this draft but in weaker drafts I think I would do it.

KillMonger · Post #1839 » by **KillMonger** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:36 am

basketballRob wrote:Draftnet has us taking Green and Kispert. I'd take that right now.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

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Take that with a huge smile on my face.....It's funny because like my brain is telling me Cade....but my heart is telling me Green....i look at green and i'm seeing like a shorter T-Mac potentially

RookieStar · Post #1840 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:40 am

SOUL wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Sorry, I don’t see SGA as a franchise SUPER STAR.

I see him a guy who might make a few all star games. We had that in Vuc and it got us no where. I’m not selling the best pick we might have in years for another run at that.

Agreed....from the film i've seen? he's not worth that kind of package

50/41/80 as a 22 year old guard is insanely good, and he has size.

I'd say it's a tough decision/no on this draft but in weaker drafts I think I would do it.

interesting though.. so a weaker draft like last draft..

Edwards
Ball/Hali
( rj/cole equivalent)

for SGA