What are the Knicks getting out of playing Payton?
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What are the Knicks getting out of playing Payton?
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What are the Knicks getting out of playing Payton?
1. CAA Perks?
2. Thibs lulling the opposing team to a false sense of security?
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401307704
Only player with a negative +/- and -9
2. Thibs lulling the opposing team to a false sense of security?
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401307704
Only player with a negative +/- and -9
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9 wins in a row apparently
all part of thibs master plan to lure opponents into a false sense of security
edit: I just read the thread title and didn't even read your "false sense of security" take when I typed mine but yeah that's it
all part of thibs master plan to lure opponents into a false sense of security
edit: I just read the thread title and didn't even read your "false sense of security" take when I typed mine but yeah that's it
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Payton is using the American Disability Act to hold on to his job.
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I just finished watching a replay of the game. He’s an atrocious player, and that’s being nice.
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Rose and IQ are not strong defenders so ELfrid is our best defensive PG
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Except he's the worst defender in the starting 5, BY A LOT.Kampuchea wrote:Rose and IQ are not strong defenders so ELfrid is our best defensive PG
How many times he's fallen asleep off the ball? Or keeps getting swallowed by picks? Also, his turnovers and bricks at the rim is easy points for the opposition.
Get him off the team.
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You're frustrated now?
Wait til playoff Payton is spotting an elite team 10pts every 1st and 3rd quarter.
Wait til playoff Payton is spotting an elite team 10pts every 1st and 3rd quarter.
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Thibs always has attachments to random bums... but Just out of curiosity where would yall rank the best players on this knicks team?after randle ofc
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He makes a few nice floaters and makes a couple of decent passes here and there, but he's not worth putting out there based on the inconsistent shooting and mistakes he makes on the court.
If we started Frank I'm very confident we'd get more. He's a defensive hound, moves the ball, and can knock down 3s.
Imagine if we get Lowry in the summer? Or had signed VanVleet? Both would fit in with this roster seamlesly.
If we started Frank I'm very confident we'd get more. He's a defensive hound, moves the ball, and can knock down 3s.
Imagine if we get Lowry in the summer? Or had signed VanVleet? Both would fit in with this roster seamlesly.
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shmeakone wrote:He makes a few nice floaters and makes a couple of decent passes here and there, but he's not worth putting out there based on the inconsistent shooting and mistakes he makes on the court.
If we started Frank I'm very confident we'd get more. He's a defensive hound, moves the ball, and can knock down 3s.
Imagine if we get Lowry in the summer? Or had signed VanVleet? Both would fit in with this roster seamlesly.
If Frank didn’t have 40-year-old virgin energy 90% of the time he gets a shot to make something happen with the ball he might have held onto the job at some point.
But even with that history it’s probably time to try something else, especially if defense is what’s keeping Elf starting. At least Frank spaces the floor.
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Kampuchea wrote:Rose and IQ are not strong defenders so ELfrid is our best defensive PG
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ZUDAMAGIC wrote:Thibs always has attachments to random bums... but Just out of curiosity where would yall rank the best players on this knicks team?after randle ofc
RJ
Mitch
Noel
Rose
Bullock
Burks
Quickley
Taj
Frank
Toppin
Knox
Pelle
Harper
Pinson
RIP magnumt
welcome home, thibs.
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ZUDAMAGIC wrote:Thibs always has attachments to random bums... but Just out of curiosity where would yall rank the best players on this knicks team?after randle ofc
RJ
Mitch
Rose
Quickley
Noel
Burks
Frank
Bullock
Gibson
Payton
Knox
Toppin
The rest don't play enough
RIP, magnumt '19
PG: M Smart/E Bledsoe/I Smith
SG: D Russell/C LeVert/L Stephenson
SF: H Barnes/T Horton Tucker/
PF: T Harris/C Boucher/B Griffin/
C: J Valanciunas/J McGee/
PG: M Smart/E Bledsoe/I Smith
SG: D Russell/C LeVert/L Stephenson
SF: H Barnes/T Horton Tucker/
PF: T Harris/C Boucher/B Griffin/
C: J Valanciunas/J McGee/
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Kampuchea wrote:Rose and IQ are not strong defenders so ELfrid is our best defensive PG
Last I checked Rose was number 3 in defensive ratings amongst all guards in the NBA. This was according to nba.com advanced stats site.
Payton's defense really is overrated. His overall BBIQ is so low that it negates anything good he rarely does on the defensive end.
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Same agent as Randle. Randle could come back on a discount. Also doesn’t want Payton to make the bench a negative. That’s all I could think of.
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Kampuchea wrote:Rose and IQ are not strong defenders so ELfrid is our best defensive PG
False Rose and IQ don’t trail their man by 3 steps.
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Just stoppin' by to +1 any and all anti-Elf posts. It's nothing personal but he couldn't get off this team fast enough.
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he gets to the rim better than anyone on the team and has the size Thibs likes on D.
he also misses too many of those shots at the rim and is late on D since he's moping about because he can't shoot.
he also misses too many of those shots at the rim and is late on D since he's moping about because he can't shoot.
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Pain.
New York Knicks franchise W-L record as of 9/2/22 since James L Dolan assumed full ownership (2001):
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honestly, at this point, i think it's more Thibs trying to not disrupt things than anything else. he doesn't finish any games, so he clearly can't be that important. i can't see how he's back next year ... at least not as a starter.