Welcome to Virtual Boston, Yam Madar!

[Hal14]

He NEEDS to get to a Euroleague club next season...playing in Israeli league just won`t cut it.

You do realize that the Israeli pro league is higher competition than NCAA, right?

Yet NBA teams all throughout the history of the game have had no problems with drafting kids out of college, putting them on NBA rosters and putting them into NBA games.

By your logic, every kid out of college should go from NCAA to the euroLeague before being able to play in the NBA

I am from Europe, so you do not have to tell me. But Israeli league is not a top league in Europe. I want him to got to eurolegaue club (or maybe to ACB to a team that plays in Eurocup) to play in much better competition.

Do not see us bringing him over next season with Kemba, Smart, Pritchard here, so he needs to go play at a higher level to improve. No point in staying at Hapoel, IMO.

According to this, Israeli is a top 5 league in Europe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_Champions_League_rankings

Smart is much better suited to the 2. Only reason he's played the 1 this season is because Kemba has missed so many games and because Pritchard is just a rookie and a liability on D so isn't able to play big mins.

Good chance that between Kemba and Smart, 1 of them (maybe both) get traded this offseason. Even if both remain, that's still only 1 true PG (Kemba since Smart is much better suited for the 2) as the only PG ahead of Madar. IMO Madar is just as good (possibly better) than Pritchard. Perhaps you bring Madar on slowly in the beginning with him as 3rd string PG and as the season goes along he could end up taking mins from Pritchard..

Or 1 more year overseas - this time in the EuroLeague could be a good option. We'll see.

I figure you've got nothing to lose by at least bringing him over, put him in the summer league this summer and see how he does..

[BillessuR6]

You do realize that the Israeli pro league is higher competition than NCAA, right?

Yet NBA teams all throughout the history of the game have had no problems with drafting kids out of college, putting them on NBA rosters and putting them into NBA games.

By your logic, every kid out of college should go from NCAA to the euroLeague before being able to play in the NBA

I am from Europe, so you do not have to tell me. But Israeli league is not a top league in Europe. I want him to got to eurolegaue club (or maybe to ACB to a team that plays in Eurocup) to play in much better competition.

Do not see us bringing him over next season with Kemba, Smart, Pritchard here, so he needs to go play at a higher level to improve. No point in staying at Hapoel, IMO.

According to this, Israeli is a top 5 league in Europe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_Champions_League_rankings

Smart is much better suited to the 2. Only reason he's played the 1 this season is because Kemba has missed so many games and because Pritchard is just a rookie and a liability on D so isn't able to play big mins.

Good chance that between Kemba and Smart, 1 of them (maybe both) get traded this offseason. Even if both remain, that's still only 1 true PG (Kemba since Smart is much better suited for the 2) as the only PG ahead of Madar. IMO Madar is just as good (possibly better) than Pritchard. Perhaps you bring Madar on slowly in the beginning with him as 3rd string PG and as the season goes along he could end up taking mins from Pritchard..

Or 1 more year overseas - this time in the EuroLeague could be a good option. We'll see.

I figure you've got nothing to lose by at least bringing him over, put him in the summer league this summer and see how he does..

That is FIBA ranking for Champions league to determine how many teams from which country can participate in it...This coefficient is determined by past results of the clubs in this league.

But two best euro leagues are Euroleague and Eurocup which are much, much better than this competition. The rankings do not include the teams that play in these competitions.

Along with Euroleage and Eurocup I would rate domestic leagues in Spain, Italy, France, Germany, Turkey, Russia, Greece and regional leagues like Adriatic league and VTB all higher than Israeli league...

If we trade one of the PGs I wouldn`t mind bringing him over but I do not think he is ready. If he stays one more year at Hapoel it would be a waste, IMO, he needs to get to a better league...

[Bleeding Green]

The Celtics aren't going to trade Kemba Walker and Marcus Smart to make room for a 20 year old they just drafted 47th.

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The Celtics aren't going to trade Kemba Walker and Marcus Smart to make room for a 20 year old they just drafted 47th.

Yam would not be their reason for trading either Kemba or Marcus. But if they trade Smart, which I think is fairly likely, that potentially helps to break something of a logjam at PG (and SG)--and that might open a window for Yam.

[Bleeding Green]

The Celtics aren't going to trade Kemba Walker and Marcus Smart to make room for a 20 year old they just drafted 47th.

Yam would not be their reason for trading either Kemba or Marcus. But if they trade Smart, which I think is fairly likely, that potentially helps to break something of a logjam at PG (and SG)--and that might open a window for Yam.

Why is it fairly likely they would trade Smart? And why would they trade him for someone who wouldn't be better than a skinny Israeli kid drafted in the second round half a year ago? There is no logjam on this team; they had zero healthy games the entire season.

[Hal14]

The Celtics aren't going to trade Kemba Walker and Marcus Smart to make room for a 20 year old they just drafted 47th.

I'm not saying they would.

Simply saying that there's been tons of trade rumors involving both Kemba and Smart so simply saying it seems like a decent chance that at least 1 of them will be gone by next season:

https://985thesportshub.com/2021/02/23/report-celtics-tried-like-hell-to-trade-kemba-walker/

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2021/03/marcus-smart-trade-rumors-celtics-guard-has-drawn-interest-from-atlanta-hawks-before-deadline-report.html

And I wouldn't harp too much on where Madar got drafted:

a) International players typically get drafted later than they should
b) Madar slipped because he still had a couple years left on his contract with Israeli team so it's harder to get him over to US
c) When Madar was drafted he was a 19 year old who was only a 26% shooter from 3 and 2 years of professional experience. Now he's a 20 year old who shoots 40% from 3 and has 3 years of professional experience. No doubt he would get drafted higher today than he did last year

No one is saying to trade Kemba and Smart and just hand Madar the starting PG job from day 1 - I think you're taking it too far.

If you read my posts, I'm saying you bring him over, see how he does in summer league. See if it's worth it to put him on the roster as your 3rd string PG to start the season, bring him along slowly and maybe by end of the season he is getting solid mins contributing as your backup PG and possibly becomes starting PG by 2022-2023.

[Hal14]

The Celtics aren't going to trade Kemba Walker and Marcus Smart to make room for a 20 year old they just drafted 47th.

Yam would not be their reason for trading either Kemba or Marcus. But if they trade Smart, which I think is fairly likely, that potentially helps to break something of a logjam at PG (and SG)--and that might open a window for Yam.

Why is it fairly likely they would trade Smart? And why would they trade him for someone who wouldn't be better than a skinny Israeli kid drafted in the second round half a year ago? There is no logjam on this team; they had zero healthy games the entire season.

Some indication they may look to trade Smart here:

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2021/03/marcus-smart-trade-rumors-celtics-guard-has-drawn-interest-from-atlanta-hawks-before-deadline-report.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/kendrick-perkins-marcus-smarts-time-000152116.html

If they traded Smart, it might be wise to try and get a good stretch 4 or a good 5 instead which are arguably greater positions of need than a 1 or a 2.

If you trade Smart, at the 1 you still have Kemba/Pritchard/Madar and at the 2 you still have Brown/Fournier/Nesmith/Langford but we have much less quantity and quality of talent at the 4 and 5.

[Justin33]

The Celtics aren't going to trade Kemba Walker and Marcus Smart to make room for a 20 year old they just drafted 47th.

It's sad this needs to be said

[Justin33]

After 2 postponements for war a nice blowout win

Watch on YouTube

[cloverleaf]

The Celtics aren't going to trade Kemba Walker and Marcus Smart to make room for a 20 year old they just drafted 47th.

Yam would not be their reason for trading either Kemba or Marcus. But if they trade Smart, which I think is fairly likely, that potentially helps to break something of a logjam at PG (and SG)--and that might open a window for Yam.

Why is it fairly likely they would trade Smart? And why would they trade him for someone who wouldn't be better than a skinny Israeli kid drafted in the second round half a year ago? There is no logjam on this team; they had zero healthy games the entire season.

Because Smart is on a tradeable, soon to be expiring-year contract and they probably don't/shouldn't want to pay him what he might command next. Plus the Jays are tired of his yapping and play.

And no, the Yamster wouldn't likely be better than what they traded Smart for straight up--and he could well be combined with other assets. A durable big could be nice. Or maybe bundled with a pick or two for a possible starting PG. But if Smart goes and Tremont isn't back, there could, I'm not saying would but could, be a deep bench seat for Yam.

Should the C's succeed in trading Kemba this year, somehow, that could also help to open up a deep seat for Yam.

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Along with Euroleage and Eurocup I would rate domestic leagues in Spain, Italy, France, Germany, Turkey, Russia, Greece and regional leagues like Adriatic league and VTB all higher than Israeli league...

If we trade one of the PGs I wouldn`t mind bringing him over but I do not think he is ready. If he stays one more year at Hapoel it would be a waste, IMO, he needs to get to a better league...

This sounds right, but I'd imagine a little tricky considering the multiyear deal he signed in Israel?

[Bleeding Green]

Yam would not be their reason for trading either Kemba or Marcus. But if they trade Smart, which I think is fairly likely, that potentially helps to break something of a logjam at PG (and SG)--and that might open a window for Yam.

Why is it fairly likely they would trade Smart? And why would they trade him for someone who wouldn't be better than a skinny Israeli kid drafted in the second round half a year ago? There is no logjam on this team; they had zero healthy games the entire season.

Because Smart is on a tradeable, soon to be expiring-year contract and they probably don't/shouldn't want to pay him what he might command next. Plus the Jays are tired of his yapping and play.

And no, the Yamster wouldn't likely be better than what they traded Smart for straight up--and he could well be combined with other assets. A durable big could be nice. Or maybe bundled with a pick or two for a possible starting PG. But if Smart goes and Tremont isn't back, there could, I'm not saying would but could, be a deep bench seat for Yam.

Should the C's succeed in trading Kemba this year, somehow, that could also help to open up a deep seat for Yam.

This team is braindead if they trade Marcus Smart and also waste a year of Yam Madar's rookie contract on a deep bench spot. May as well not even watch them if they make such awful moves because it just tells me they will 100 pct waste Jayson Tatum's Hall of Fame career.

[Hal14]

I am from Europe, so you do not have to tell me. But Israeli league is not a top league in Europe. I want him to got to eurolegaue club (or maybe to ACB to a team that plays in Eurocup) to play in much better competition.

Do not see us bringing him over next season with Kemba, Smart, Pritchard here, so he needs to go play at a higher level to improve. No point in staying at Hapoel, IMO.

According to this, Israeli is a top 5 league in Europe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_Champions_League_rankings

Smart is much better suited to the 2. Only reason he's played the 1 this season is because Kemba has missed so many games and because Pritchard is just a rookie and a liability on D so isn't able to play big mins.

Good chance that between Kemba and Smart, 1 of them (maybe both) get traded this offseason. Even if both remain, that's still only 1 true PG (Kemba since Smart is much better suited for the 2) as the only PG ahead of Madar. IMO Madar is just as good (possibly better) than Pritchard. Perhaps you bring Madar on slowly in the beginning with him as 3rd string PG and as the season goes along he could end up taking mins from Pritchard..

Or 1 more year overseas - this time in the EuroLeague could be a good option. We'll see.

I figure you've got nothing to lose by at least bringing him over, put him in the summer league this summer and see how he does..

That is FIBA ranking for Champions league to determine how many teams from which country can participate in it...This coefficient is determined by past results of the clubs in this league.

But two best euro leagues are Euroleague and Eurocup which are much, much better than this competition. The rankings do not include the teams that play in these competitions.

Along with Euroleage and Eurocup I would rate domestic leagues in Spain, Italy, France, Germany, Turkey, Russia, Greece and regional leagues like Adriatic league and VTB all higher than Israeli league...

If we trade one of the PGs I wouldn`t mind bringing him over but I do not think he is ready. If he stays one more year at Hapoel it would be a waste, IMO, he needs to get to a better league...

1) What makes you think he's not ready? Next season he'll be 21 and he'll have 3 professional seasons under his belt. 3 professional seasons in a league that's superior to NCAA.

We have all these 18/19 year old kids projected as lottery picks this year after playing 1 season of NCAA ball and they're all going to join NBA teams. Madar played 3 seasons in a superior league, he's 20 years old but he's not ready?

Tony parker was 19 his rookie year. If Madar comes over next season he'll be 21, but Madar's not ready?

2) He needs to get to a better league? but the league he's in now is better competition than NCAA and we have all these kids about to get drafted in the lottery who will be going from NCAA straight to NBA teams..

[Hal14]

Watch on YouTube

[Bleeding Green]

At least we have something to watch during the Celtics game.

[Justin33]

Big scoring game and a tough win

Watch on YouTube

[31to6]

Yam's 180lbs are starting to look slight to me.

[Hal14]

Yam's 180lbs are starting to look slight to me.

Yam Madar 6'3", 180 lbs
Steve Nash 6'3", 178 lbs
Ja Morant 6'3", 174 lbs
De'Aaron Fox 6'3", 185 lbs
Allen Iverson 6'0", 165 lbs
Tony Parker 6'2", 185 lbs
Trae Young 6'1", 180 lbs

Steph Curry is 6'3", 190 lbs. but when he was drafted he was only 181 lbs:
http://www.mynbadraft.com/2009-nba-draft-measurements/

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Yam's 180lbs are starting to look slight to me.

He's definitely got a twiggy figure. I hope he can add some muscle.

[Hal14]

Yam's 180lbs are starting to look slight to me.

He's definitely got a twiggy figure. I hope he can add some muscle.

Bulk up a little bit. and tighten up his handle a little.

other than that, he's ready for the NBA. he'll be 21 when next season starts. bring him over this summer, put him in summer league, training camp and see what he can do.

this guy is tony parker, except 1 inch taller, better defender, better outside shot, but Parker had better handle and was a little quicker..