Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2020-21, Part 2

[Bleeding Green]

Andre Drummond doing God's work, absolutely destroying the Lakers chances. You love to see it.

[GoCeltics123]

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[Bleeding Green]

Little did we know the real reason behind the Celtics talking to Drummond when he was a free agent. Ainge is paying him under the table to tank the Lakers.

This guy made two all star games.

To be fair I could see Grant Williams doing this too if he could jump high enough.

[bisme37]

Apparently Damion Lee of the Warriors got COVID after being fully vaccinated. Would hella suck if that happened to one of our guys.

[GoGreen]

Let's goooooo Minny and Phoenix.

[exculpatory]

Apparently Damion Lee of the Warriors got COVID after being fully vaccinated. Would hella suck if that happened to one of our guys.

As I very recently posted in the Covid thread, as per the CDC, the chances of acquiring a Covid infection more than 2 weeks after the second shot is 6000/84,000,000 = 0.00007 = 0.007% = 1 in every 14,000 fully vaccinated patients.

If the NBA had 900 teams with 15 players per team = 14,250 players, & all 14,250 players completed their second vaccination more than 2 weeks ago, it is possible that 1 player might develop Covid.

Of course, OJ was acquitted when the chances that the blood at the crime scene belonged to anyone else on planet earth was 1 in 170,000,000 - but, unless we are truly cursed, I think we ‘might’ be safe with a 1 in 14,000 probability if the NBA had 900 teams or a 1 in 420,000 probability given that the NBA has 30 teams.

[threrf23]

As I very recently posted in the Covid thread, as per the CDC, the chances of acquiring a Covid infection more than 2 weeks after the second shot is 6000/84,000,000 = 0.00007 = 0.007% = 1 in every 14,000 fully vaccinated patients.

If the NBA had 900 teams with 15 players per team = 14,250 players, & all 14,250 players completed their second vaccination more than 2 weeks ago, it is possible that 1 player might develop Covid.

Of course, OJ was acquitted when the chances that the blood at the crime scene belonged to anyone else on planet earth was 1 in 170,000,000 - but, unless we are truly cursed, I think we ‘might’ be safe with a 1 in 14,000 probability if the NBA had 900 teams or a 1 in 420,000 probability given that the NBA has 30 teams.

I think the claim is that 6,000 people tested positive despite being fully vaccinated (versus 84 mil)? It doesn't take into account fuiture cases, undiagnosed cases, unreported cases, existing antibodies, etc.

If I am not mistaken phase III trials showed ~90% efficacy after two shots, and more recently a peer reviewed "real life trial" amongst front line health workers also showed ~90% effectiveness. There have been a number of breakthrough cases reported in the media, and for every case reported there are likely at least several unreported and unrecognized cases, considering that those who are vaccinated are less likely to experience symptoms. If every member of the public was tested as regularly as NBA players, I'm sure we would see many more cases. Then there's the prospect of new strains becoming more prevalent...

Of course, in the trials, those who did get infected post vaccination were unlikely to develop serious symptoms and I don't think anyone died. Acc to the CDC, of the 6,000 who tested positive and the others who went undiagnosed - a group likely skewed towards the older and/or vulnerable since those are the people who are most likely to have been fully vaccinated loong enough to be cited in the study - only 400 ended up hospitalized and only 7 died. It suggests a post vaccination mortality rate of about 0.1% or lower amongst vulnerable-ish segments of the population.

There was also that nursing home study where being vaccinated clearly did not prevent transmission - possibly due to the strain involved - but still appeared to have a big effect on symptom severity.

IMO there is lots of evidence that the vaccines are highly effective at fighting covid off, either before or after hypothetical infection, but less evidence that they are effective at preventing infection to begin with.

[exculpatory]

As I very recently posted in the Covid thread, as per the CDC, the chances of acquiring a Covid infection more than 2 weeks after the second shot is 6000/84,000,000 = 0.00007 = 0.007% = 1 in every 14,000 fully vaccinated patients.

If the NBA had 900 teams with 15 players per team = 14,250 players, & all 14,250 players completed their second vaccination more than 2 weeks ago, it is possible that 1 player might develop Covid.

Of course, OJ was acquitted when the chances that the blood at the crime scene belonged to anyone else on planet earth was 1 in 170,000,000 - but, unless we are truly cursed, I think we ‘might’ be safe with a 1 in 14,000 probability if the NBA had 900 teams or a 1 in 420,000 probability given that the NBA has 30 teams.

I think the claim is that 6,000 people tested positive despite being fully vaccinated (versus 84 mil)? It doesn't take into account fuiture cases, undiagnosed cases, unreported cases, existing antibodies, etc.

If I am not mistaken phase III trials showed ~90% efficacy after two shots, and more recently a peer reviewed "real life trial" amongst front line health workers also showed ~90% effectiveness. There have been a number of breakthrough cases reported in the media, and for every case reported there are likely at least several unreported and unrecognized cases, considering that those who are vaccinated are less likely to experience symptoms. If every member of the public was tested as regularly as NBA players, I'm sure we would see many more cases. Then there's the prospect of new strains becoming more prevalent...

Of course, in the trials, those who did get infected post vaccination were unlikely to develop serious symptoms and I don't think anyone died. Acc to the CDC, of the 6,000 who tested positive and the others who went undiagnosed - a group likely skewed towards the older and/or vulnerable since those are the people who are most likely to have been fully vaccinated loong enough to be cited in the study - only 400 ended up hospitalized and only 7 died. It suggests a post vaccination mortality rate of about 0.1% or lower amongst vulnerable-ish segments of the population.

There was also that nursing home study where being vaccinated clearly did not prevent transmission - possibly due to the strain involved - but still appeared to have a big effect on symptom severity.

IMO there is lots of evidence that the vaccines are highly effective at fighting covid off, either before or after hypothetical infection, but less evidence that they are effective at preventing infection to begin with.

Very good comment by you.

And you are on point except for your last sentence fragment.

Even with the caveats you noted, the vaccines have been massively/enormously/prodigiously effective in preventing Covid infection - way beyond our wildest dreams.

[Tatumfor2]

Get feeling, we are going to get lucky and make the ECF yet again. And Washington will help us. I think they win the play in thing and then knock off a top team. If we can win some games and get a little luck than we only have to beat the Hawks or Knicks and then the Wizards and we are in the ECF. We are due for some good luck right?

I don't know about the Wiz knocking off a top team, but one thing's for sure, the Celts have not had a complete team for most of the season.

If the Celts' core players are all healthy in the playoffs, anything's possible.

Only team that I don't think the Celts can beat is Philly.

But Celts can beat Brooklyn and Milwaukee.

Playoff Philly?

[bisme37]

Zion out indefinitely with a broken finger. His season is over I would think.

[exculpatory]

If Beal is down this week, the chances of passing the Hawks just went from small to 0.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Little did we know the real reason behind the Celtics talking to Drummond when he was a free agent. Ainge is paying him under the table to tank the Lakers.

This guy made two all star games.

To be fair I could see Grant Williams doing this too if he could jump high enough.

Still amazed that people on this board wanted him ahead of Theis. I really thought we were better than that. Lol

[djFan71]

Might as well have the Spurs win tonight. If MEM has a better record then us, and we drop to the lottery and end up tied with the Spurs, we at least split the number of balls for 12 & 13. They're at 35 losses vs 34 for us right now.

[Darthlukey]

Totally off topic, but it has only just occurred to me. What happens to draft order and lottery odds for play in teams. Lets say all 4 teams that are 9 & 10 seeds win. Do they stay in the lottery or move out of the lottery and the 7 & 8 seeds move into the lottery?

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[playa-hater]

Anyone know if the NBA will allow a Bigger fan base to attend games come playoffs?? Especially with the CDC's announcement recently this week.

[3D Chess]

Kyrie finna have a 50/40/90 season on 27/5/6. He good.

[Shak_Celts]

Kyrie finna have a 50/40/90 season on 27/5/6. He good.

being very good was never a question.

[GoCeltics123]

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Lakers Warriors is going to be a blast

[SuperDeluxe]

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Lakers Warriors is going to be a blast

The NBA's marketing department must be frantically writing the script of that game as I type, so that it has a happy ending.