Scoot Henderson is skipping his senior year of high school and will sign a contract with the G League Ignite team.
Henderson's contract will be worth $1 million.
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Scoot Henderson is skipping his senior year of high school and will sign a contract with the G League Ignite team.
Henderson's contract will be worth $1 million.
Lockdown504090 wrote:i dont see how this isnt a no brainer? High school basketball/AAU is almost useless, practice with players who arent that good to play against players who are not that good, Whats the point? Theres barely any important games.
njknicks wrote:Sincerely hope that the G League prepares these young talented teens for understanding how to invest, save their money and develop their knowledge of the game / life -- great opportunity to shine & build their future.
The G League is a great opportunity for recently retired NBA vets to mentor these young men for a long / successful career both on and off the court.
Imagine Vince Carter, Dirk, KG, TD ... spending just a little bit of time ( via zoom, in person ) to offer insights on how to navigate the league and develop their professionalism.
Wishing Scoot & all the G Leaguers great success.
njknicks wrote:Sincerely hope that the G League prepares these young talented teens for understanding how to invest, save their money and develop their knowledge of the game / life -- great opportunity to shine & build their future.
The G League is a great opportunity for recently retired NBA vets to mentor these young men for a long / successful career both on and off the court.
Imagine Vince Carter, Dirk, KG, TD ... spending just a little bit of time ( via zoom, in person ) to offer insights on how to navigate the league and develop their professionalism.
Wishing Scoot & all the G Leaguers great success.
tiderulz wrote:njknicks wrote:Sincerely hope that the G League prepares these young talented teens for understanding how to invest, save their money and develop their knowledge of the game / life -- great opportunity to shine & build their future.
The G League is a great opportunity for recently retired NBA vets to mentor these young men for a long / successful career both on and off the court.
Imagine Vince Carter, Dirk, KG, TD ... spending just a little bit of time ( via zoom, in person ) to offer insights on how to navigate the league and develop their professionalism.
Wishing Scoot & all the G Leaguers great success.
I used to work in Orlando when the NFL would bring all the rookies in for seminars on handling money, handling fans, women (wanting to get pregnant). They would bring in the successful players, the players that messed up and could give them real world situations. 90% of the rookies would walk out after saying that would never happen to them. I hope these young guys listen
my kid goes to Henderson's high school and knows him. he is a good kid and smart. he has enough credits to graduate now
HangTime wrote:Anyone else not like the idea of the ignite team?
Having all the kids on the same team.
I say let these kids enter the draft.
If they are taken in the first round, then they get 5 year contract rather than the standard 4.
Year 1 - G-league contract
Year 2 - garunteed at the Rookie scale
Year 3 - garunteed
Year 4 - team option
Year 5 - team option
In year 1, the player can do everything with the NBA team (travel, practice, sit on the bench and watch the games, rehab etc) except actually play in the games.
Maybe you have him join you on grueling road trip, 4 games in 5 night, just to get him used to the travel, and prep.
Also, if he's with your g-league team, he's learning everything the coach wants him too, and he can hit the ground running his rookie year.
Am2626 wrote:HangTime wrote:Anyone else not like the idea of the ignite team?
Having all the kids on the same team.
I say let these kids enter the draft.
If they are taken in the first round, then they get 5 year contract rather than the standard 4.
Year 1 - G-league contract
Year 2 - garunteed at the Rookie scale
Year 3 - garunteed
Year 4 - team option
Year 5 - team option
In year 1, the player can do everything with the NBA team (travel, practice, sit on the bench and watch the games, rehab etc) except actually play in the games.
Maybe you have him join you on grueling road trip, 4 games in 5 night, just to get him used to the travel, and prep.
Also, if he's with your g-league team, he's learning everything the coach wants him too, and he can hit the ground running his rookie year.
You do realize that none of these kids are anywhere close to being NBA ready. This league is watered down enough as it is. We saw how many prep to pro busts there were. Not a fan of the G League. Would rather see the end of amateurism and let college players make money off their likeness. The best prospects can make millions off their name. You look at NBA legends like Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway that can go back to their respective alumni bases and the brotherhood that lasts for life for them. It’s sad when the next generation of basketball players will never see that. Also the G League game isn’t anywhere close to the same as the NBA. If you have watched the games they have these crazy rules like 1 free throw gives you 2 points. This league isn’t going to develop anyone. Jalen Green was the number 1 or 2 high school prospect and he will probably be drafted 4 or 5 while Cade, Mobley, and Suggs will all go ahead of him. Suggs Final Four Shoot will be remembered forever and he will be a much more marketable athlete than Jalen Green.
HangTime wrote:Am2626 wrote:HangTime wrote:Anyone else not like the idea of the ignite team?
Having all the kids on the same team.
I say let these kids enter the draft.
If they are taken in the first round, then they get 5 year contract rather than the standard 4.
Year 1 - G-league contract
Year 2 - garunteed at the Rookie scale
Year 3 - garunteed
Year 4 - team option
Year 5 - team option
In year 1, the player can do everything with the NBA team (travel, practice, sit on the bench and watch the games, rehab etc) except actually play in the games.
Maybe you have him join you on grueling road trip, 4 games in 5 night, just to get him used to the travel, and prep.
Also, if he's with your g-league team, he's learning everything the coach wants him too, and he can hit the ground running his rookie year.
You do realize that none of these kids are anywhere close to being NBA ready. This league is watered down enough as it is. We saw how many prep to pro busts there were. Not a fan of the G League. Would rather see the end of amateurism and let college players make money off their likeness. The best prospects can make millions off their name. You look at NBA legends like Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway that can go back to their respective alumni bases and the brotherhood that lasts for life for them. It’s sad when the next generation of basketball players will never see that. Also the G League game isn’t anywhere close to the same as the NBA. If you have watched the games they have these crazy rules like 1 free throw gives you 2 points. This league isn’t going to develop anyone. Jalen Green was the number 1 or 2 high school prospect and he will probably be drafted 4 or 5 while Cade, Mobley, and Suggs will all go ahead of him. Suggs Final Four Shoot will be remembered forever and he will be a much more marketable athlete than Jalen Green.
NCAA uses different rules to the NBA.
Also, if they play with a specific rule in the g-league, and then it gets inpletemented the following year, then they're ahead of the curve.
Also, the 1st year of the contract is meant to keep their playing time in the g-leauge, while they get to learn their organization's system.
Maybe the NBA could also offer an insentive of college scholarships, for joining the g-league/NBA draft.
Get more these kids, that aspire to play in the NBA, into the system sooner. If they flame out within a few years, at least they would have made money, and have an opportunity to atend college.
Lockdown504090 wrote:i dont see how this isnt a no brainer? High school basketball/AAU is almost useless, practice with players who arent that good to play against players who are not that good, Whats the point? Theres barely any important games.
njknicks wrote:tiderulz wrote:njknicks wrote:Sincerely hope that the G League prepares these young talented teens for understanding how to invest, save their money and develop their knowledge of the game / life -- great opportunity to shine & build their future.
The G League is a great opportunity for recently retired NBA vets to mentor these young men for a long / successful career both on and off the court.
Imagine Vince Carter, Dirk, KG, TD ... spending just a little bit of time ( via zoom, in person ) to offer insights on how to navigate the league and develop their professionalism.
Wishing Scoot & all the G Leaguers great success.
I used to work in Orlando when the NFL would bring all the rookies in for seminars on handling money, handling fans, women (wanting to get pregnant). They would bring in the successful players, the players that messed up and could give them real world situations. 90% of the rookies would walk out after saying that would never happen to them. I hope these young guys listen
my kid goes to Henderson's high school and knows him. he is a good kid and smart. he has enough credits to graduate now
Am glad to hear the Henderson has his head on right - you just want the very best for all these kids regardless - its a once in a lifetime opportunity, hope the understand that and seize the moment. Looking forward to seeing Henderson on the court.
Am2626 wrote:njknicks wrote:tiderulz wrote:I used to work in Orlando when the NFL would bring all the rookies in for seminars on handling money, handling fans, women (wanting to get pregnant). They would bring in the successful players, the players that messed up and could give them real world situations. 90% of the rookies would walk out after saying that would never happen to them. I hope these young guys listen
my kid goes to Henderson's high school and knows him. he is a good kid and smart. he has enough credits to graduate now
Am glad to hear the Henderson has his head on right - you just want the very best for all these kids regardless - its a once in a lifetime opportunity, hope the understand that and seize the moment. Looking forward to seeing Henderson on the court.
You don’t think getting a chance to play in college in front of millions of people is a better experience than playing in some rural town where no one cares about the game? Many college teams have international pre season tournaments. I’ve included an article below. The G League will never offer anything like this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/bustingbrackets.com/2019/08/07/ncaa-basketball-importance-annual-preseason-foreign-tours-teams/amp/
tiderulz wrote:Am2626 wrote:njknicks wrote:
Am glad to hear the Henderson has his head on right - you just want the very best for all these kids regardless - its a once in a lifetime opportunity, hope the understand that and seize the moment. Looking forward to seeing Henderson on the court.
You don’t think getting a chance to play in college in front of millions of people is a better experience than playing in some rural town where no one cares about the game? Many college teams have international pre season tournaments. I’ve included an article below. The G League will never offer anything like this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/bustingbrackets.com/2019/08/07/ncaa-basketball-importance-annual-preseason-foreign-tours-teams/amp/
its definitely a choice. You do play in front of a lot of people in college arenas and on TV if you go to a big school. but Henderson will have 2 years playing against grown men, getting a better feel for the NBA game vs playing whatever scheme his college coach has. Have more time with coaches for development and also make money. I can see the pros/cons to either decision
Am2626 wrote:Lockdown504090 wrote:i dont see how this isnt a no brainer? High school basketball/AAU is almost useless, practice with players who arent that good to play against players who are not that good, Whats the point? Theres barely any important games.
In many ways the G League is an extension of the AAU system. The quality of play in the G League is garbage. It’s better to reclassify and play in college. College provides the stage, media, and exposure that the G League will never offer. How many people actually care about watching a G League game? It’s the red headed step child of the NBA.
We just need to allow college players to have no restrictions in making money off their names.
Lockdown504090 wrote:Am2626 wrote:Lockdown504090 wrote:i dont see how this isnt a no brainer? High school basketball/AAU is almost useless, practice with players who arent that good to play against players who are not that good, Whats the point? Theres barely any important games.
In many ways the G League is an extension of the AAU system. The quality of play in the G League is garbage. It’s better to reclassify and play in college. College provides the stage, media, and exposure that the G League will never offer. How many people actually care about watching a G League game? It’s the red headed step child of the NBA.
We just need to allow college players to have no restrictions in making money off their names.
Totally disagree on the quality of competition compared to college. the problem is the me first playstyle that happens on some team. The ignite team isnt like that because the team is made for the purpose of developing young players. Jarret jack amir johnson and the other vets arent looking for nba jobs to the point where they would go out and try to showcase themselves. more than half the NBA has spent time in the G leauge.
Also at this point college basketball strategies are so far from what nba teams do now, its pointless. Things like 2-3 zone, pack line defense, icing ball screens, flex cut offenses that are strong in college, dont get run often at the nba level.
When we evaluate players, we want to see them running things and playing against things that nba teams do. I dont care that Cole anthony doesnt operate and make decisions well in tight space if hes going to be playing on a bigger floor in the NBA for example.
Am2626 wrote:Lockdown504090 wrote:Am2626 wrote:
In many ways the G League is an extension of the AAU system. The quality of play in the G League is garbage. It’s better to reclassify and play in college. College provides the stage, media, and exposure that the G League will never offer. How many people actually care about watching a G League game? It’s the red headed step child of the NBA.
We just need to allow college players to have no restrictions in making money off their names.
Totally disagree on the quality of competition compared to college. the problem is the me first playstyle that happens on some team. The ignite team isnt like that because the team is made for the purpose of developing young players. Jarret jack amir johnson and the other vets arent looking for nba jobs to the point where they would go out and try to showcase themselves. more than half the NBA has spent time in the G leauge.
Also at this point college basketball strategies are so far from what nba teams do now, its pointless. Things like 2-3 zone, pack line defense, icing ball screens, flex cut offenses that are strong in college, dont get run often at the nba level.
When we evaluate players, we want to see them running things and playing against things that nba teams do. I dont care that Cole anthony doesnt operate and make decisions well in tight space if hes going to be playing on a bigger floor in the NBA for example.
I wasn’t referring to the G League being inferior to college from a talent / competition standpoint. It’s obvious that the G League has overall more talent. What I was referring to is that the style of play is poor. Way too much selfish basketball, ISO game, etc. It’s not an ideal environment to develop a young prospect as a 17-20 year old needs to develop fundamentals, defensive skills, etc. Also the Select Team isn’t completely about player development.
Daishen Nix and Princepal Singh didn’t get the same opportunities as Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga and both would have been better going to college.
It is very possible that a 17 year old who dominates high school basketball is not physically or mentally ready to be a professional basketball player. There is a high bust rate and possibility of ruining their basketball future. I don’t understand what is the urgency to try and make kids professionals as quickly as possible. You can’t get these years back and starting your professional career at 20 or 21 probably gives these kids a better opportunity for long term success than trying to accelerate a 17 year old to the point that he may fail because he isn’t ready yet.
Lockdown504090 wrote:Am2626 wrote:Lockdown504090 wrote:Totally disagree on the quality of competition compared to college. the problem is the me first playstyle that happens on some team. The ignite team isnt like that because the team is made for the purpose of developing young players. Jarret jack amir johnson and the other vets arent looking for nba jobs to the point where they would go out and try to showcase themselves. more than half the NBA has spent time in the G leauge.
Also at this point college basketball strategies are so far from what nba teams do now, its pointless. Things like 2-3 zone, pack line defense, icing ball screens, flex cut offenses that are strong in college, dont get run often at the nba level.
When we evaluate players, we want to see them running things and playing against things that nba teams do. I dont care that Cole anthony doesnt operate and make decisions well in tight space if hes going to be playing on a bigger floor in the NBA for example.
I wasn’t referring to the G League being inferior to college from a talent / competition standpoint. It’s obvious that the G League has overall more talent. What I was referring to is that the style of play is poor. Way too much selfish basketball, ISO game, etc. It’s not an ideal environment to develop a young prospect as a 17-20 year old needs to develop fundamentals, defensive skills, etc. Also the Select Team isn’t completely about player development.
Daishen Nix and Princepal Singh didn’t get the same opportunities as Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga and both would have been better going to college.
It is very possible that a 17 year old who dominates high school basketball is not physically or mentally ready to be a professional basketball player. There is a high bust rate and possibility of ruining their basketball future. I don’t understand what is the urgency to try and make kids professionals as quickly as possible. You can’t get these years back and starting your professional career at 20 or 21 probably gives these kids a better opportunity for long term success than trying to accelerate a 17 year old to the point that he may fail because he isn’t ready yet.
okay, my issue is that they are professionals. Both leagues have issues. Those teamswere built around those two guys getting drafted. I agree with you about the other players not getting the oppourtunities they would have liked, but thats basketball. Also there is no reason to have struggling parents like like crap for an additional 2 years longer than necessary, and if the kid gets hurt playing college or worse HS basketball, all the investment was for nothing. A million dollars is a lot of money to figure out the rest of your life. a quarter million is a lot too. There are a lot of kevin ware's out tthere that get hurt in the 11th grade that could have signed a 250 k contract.