PLAY IN | (8) WARRIORS VS. (9) GRIZZLIES

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Poll ended at Sat May 22, 2021 1:10 pm

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Post#1301 » by JN61 » Sat May 22, 2021 4:37 am

therealbig3 wrote:Dame, Harden, and Westbrook didn’t have a play-in. Curry led his team to the playoffs in any other season, come on why do we need to be ridiculous about this? “Curry couldn’t carry a team to the playoffs” becomes the narrative when they were literally the 8th best team in their conference and would have made the playoffs in any other year? Are you guys freaking serious lmao?

Uhm. They played Grizzlies. There wasn't much easier opponent on these play ins apart of maybe the injured Hornet's. Let's not pretend like they got two hard opponents in a row and just freak of a loss. This should have been easy win for Warriors. They were massive favourites vs inexperienced super young grizzlies. Curry and company just choked. He had a great shooting night so that's all what Curry fans care about I guess. Only thing that matters in a basketball if you shoot the ball well. Shrug.
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Post#1302 » by E S V L » Sat May 22, 2021 4:38 am

A Memphis fan is here with a statement on behalf of all Memphis fans: Curry is still MVP.

It’s the Grizzlies outplayed the Warriors, not Ja outplayed Steph.
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Post#1303 » by jehosafats » Sat May 22, 2021 4:40 am

infinite11285 wrote:
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_AIJ_ wrote:Its not rocket science

It's not altogether clear either


Win one game = you lock that seed and advance to the playoffs
Lose two games = you're eliminated

Wins bump you up in the seedings and losses bump you down. In this case, GSW finished the season as the 9th seed.

Aaaah, I see ...why players hate it hahaha
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Post#1304 » by CodeBreaker » Sat May 22, 2021 4:40 am

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bluemj32 wrote:Soo a quarter dictates a guy out of the league?

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Wow you're really defending him? He's basically the reason Warriors lost that game and not make the playoffs. He was airballing and missing wide open shots and layups. Draymond probably wants to kick his nuts
Smh, you're not getting the point of the statement made....no one said he played good.

But you're saying he needs to be out of the league bc of his play?

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Do some backread and check where did I say he needs to be out of the league
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Post#1305 » by PT416 » Sat May 22, 2021 4:40 am

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This play reminded me why the T'Wolves sucked for so many years.
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Post#1306 » by TinmanZBoy » Sat May 22, 2021 4:41 am

if only the Warriors had a Nic Batum, that would have made this team a lot different...
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Post#1307 » by PistolPeteJR » Sat May 22, 2021 4:41 am

AussieCeltic wrote::wink:
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His team shouldn't of even sniffed the playoffs and he played decent. You guys are weirdos with the Curry hate.


It’s not hate at all. My point is simple: I don’t agree that this cast is as terrible as some claim it is. I don’t think it’s great at all, I don’t think it’s good even. But it’s not horrendous, I think some people are stretching that. Go back and read through all 100 pages of the Warriors-Lakers game the other day and you’ll see how the supporting cast was being praised by many who rip them to shreds to uplift Curry. That’s what bothers me.


The Lakers literally just double team Curry the whole game. Brooks one of the league best wing defenders just face guarded Curry all game plus they doubled him.

Draymond a offensive short comings along with the rest of the squad is by far the worst offensive teammates in the league.

If you watch those games and think “Steph Curry should do more” you literally have rocks in your head.


No, I watch those games and think, “Steph Curry should do more on defense and do a better job of taking care of the ball.” The Lakers played Damian Lillard very similarly last year in the playoffs. Forget the assists for a second, because Dame had a better supporting cast last playoffs than Curry does right now, but simply taking care of the ball and not being overly careless with it is something Curry has shown multiple times he has a hard time doing when the pressure is on.
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Post#1308 » by TinmanZBoy » Sat May 22, 2021 4:42 am

PT416 wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
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This play reminded me why the T'Wolves sucked for so many years.


quite honestly Wiggins has been solid all year long, including this game... can't fault his whole season to this shot...
i'd like him more aggressively attacking the rim, than settling for threes,
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Post#1309 » by BoatsNZones » Sat May 22, 2021 4:44 am

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therealbig3 wrote:Dame, Harden, and Westbrook didn’t have a play-in. Curry led his team to the playoffs in any other season, come on why do we need to be ridiculous about this? “Curry couldn’t carry a team to the playoffs” becomes the narrative when they were literally the 8th best team in their conference and would have made the playoffs in any other year? Are you guys freaking serious lmao?


Dame and the Blazers were the eighth best team in the western conference last year and had to play a play-in. We won. So no, a bit like last season. What happened to Steph and the Warriors isn't unprecedented.

Year after year a lot of Warrior fans talk about how Dame can't perform against the Warriors in the playoffs and chokes, ignoring the incredibly insane amount of defensive attention and game-planning that goes against him without the same caliber of players around him as Steph.

Well, now you guys get a little taste of what it's like in that position and maybe you'll be a bit more understanding with the new perspective.

Curry dropped an average of 38 on a 67% TS against these two teams who were guarding him to the gills (and he was a + every second against both teams). That's what you call absolute dominance my guy.

Btw, the reason the talk about Curry > Dame in the playoffs is a thing is because he absolutely crushes him every time they meet up. Regardless of circumstance.
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Post#1310 » by PT416 » Sat May 22, 2021 4:44 am

TinmanZBoy wrote:
PT416 wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
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This play reminded me why the T'Wolves sucked for so many years.


quite honestly Wiggins has been solid all year long, including this game... can't fault his whole season to this shot...
i'd like him more aggressively attacking the rim, than settling for threes,

I agree, but it's just the magnitude of this moment, and then making a losing play. It's classic Wiggins. And also he's been solid by Wiggins standards, impact-wise he's been avg to slightly below avg which is a huge improvement for him.
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Post#1311 » by JoeyLightYears » Sat May 22, 2021 4:45 am

Memories wrote:Curry thinking right now: Image


This would be a great pairing because Curry wouldn't see doubles and LeBron could guarantee himself another FMVP
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Post#1312 » by TinmanZBoy » Sat May 22, 2021 4:48 am

JoeyLightYears wrote:
Memories wrote:Curry thinking right now: Image


This would be a great pairing because Curry wouldn't see doubles and LeBron could guarantee himself another FMVP


LeBron should think about joining the Warriors..
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Post#1313 » by PT416 » Sat May 22, 2021 4:48 am

Curry needs to join Jokic in Denver.
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Post#1314 » by JoeyLightYears » Sat May 22, 2021 4:49 am

Skinny Tucker Carlson was pretty clutch for the Grizz in OT. Outscored MVP candidate Curry 6-2
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Post#1315 » by BallerTalk » Sat May 22, 2021 4:51 am

therealbig3 wrote:
BallerTalk wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:Warriors are so bad that Curry could not even get a shot off in overtime because they were just straight trapping him leaving someone open and they still couldn’t pay.


It's tough being the solo superstar.
Gives some real life perspective on the past Curry vs ______ debates doesn't it.


Curry was always better than Harden and CP3 and Westbrook and Durant. He wasn’t as good as LeBron.

That’s pretty much the extent of the Curry vs. “blank” debates.


Curry has always had a better supporting cast than Harden and CP3 and Westbrook and Durant.

Stephen Curry has only made the playoffs ONCE in his entire 12 year career without another All-Star on his team, and that year he got bounced in the first round by the Clippers.

The media and the rings are powerful things. I get it.
Fans love a good bite-sized narrative.
My point is when you compare apples to apples the story reads quite differently.
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Post#1316 » by therealbig3 » Sat May 22, 2021 4:54 am

PistolPeteJR wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote::wink:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
It’s not hate at all. My point is simple: I don’t agree that this cast is as terrible as some claim it is. I don’t think it’s great at all, I don’t think it’s good even. But it’s not horrendous, I think some people are stretching that. Go back and read through all 100 pages of the Warriors-Lakers game the other day and you’ll see how the supporting cast was being praised by many who rip them to shreds to uplift Curry. That’s what bothers me.


The Lakers literally just double team Curry the whole game. Brooks one of the league best wing defenders just face guarded Curry all game plus they doubled him.

Draymond a offensive short comings along with the rest of the squad is by far the worst offensive teammates in the league.

If you watch those games and think “Steph Curry should do more” you literally have rocks in your head.


No, I watch those games and think, “Steph Curry should do more on defense and do a better job of taking care of the ball.” The Lakers played Damian Lillard very similarly last year in the playoffs. Forget the assists for a second, because Dame had a better supporting cast last playoffs than Curry does right now, but simply taking care of the ball and not being overly careless with it is something Curry has shown multiple times he has a hard time doing when the pressure is on.


They played Lillard similarly, he had a better supporting cast...and he was way worse than Curry. That’s why this comparison doesn’t make sense to me.
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Post#1317 » by gmoney411 » Sat May 22, 2021 4:54 am

BallerTalk wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
BallerTalk wrote:
It's tough being the solo superstar.
Gives some real life perspective on the past Curry vs ______ debates doesn't it.


Curry was always better than Harden and CP3 and Westbrook and Durant. He wasn’t as good as LeBron.

That’s pretty much the extent of the Curry vs. “blank” debates.


Curry has always had a better supporting cast than Harden and CP3 and Westbrook and Durant.

Stephen Curry has only made the playoffs ONCE in his entire 12 year career without another All-Star on his team, and that year he got bounced in the first round by the Clippers.

The media and the rings are powerful things. I get it.
Fans love a good bite-sized narrative.
My point is when you compare apples to apples the story reads quite differently.


The truth is all of those guys, minus Russ IMO, are superstar best player on a championship team caliber. Once you start saying things like Curry is always better you are ignoring the difference in supporting cast. Harden literally never had a better roster in a series against Curry and it was never close.
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Post#1318 » by Saul Goodman » Sat May 22, 2021 4:56 am

The Curry slander is completely nuts. That Warriors team sans curry is 2012 Charlotte Bobcats bad and he dragged it single handedly to the play in.
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Post#1319 » by PistolPeteJR » Sat May 22, 2021 4:59 am

therealbig3 wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote::wink:

The Lakers literally just double team Curry the whole game. Brooks one of the league best wing defenders just face guarded Curry all game plus they doubled him.

Draymond a offensive short comings along with the rest of the squad is by far the worst offensive teammates in the league.

If you watch those games and think “Steph Curry should do more” you literally have rocks in your head.


No, I watch those games and think, “Steph Curry should do more on defense and do a better job of taking care of the ball.” The Lakers played Damian Lillard very similarly last year in the playoffs. Forget the assists for a second, because Dame had a better supporting cast last playoffs than Curry does right now, but simply taking care of the ball and not being overly careless with it is something Curry has shown multiple times he has a hard time doing when the pressure is on.


They played Lillard similarly, he had a better supporting cast...and he was way worse than Curry. That’s why this comparison doesn’t make sense to me.


He was worse scoring the ball, and in general, no doubt. I never said he was better. I was clearly speaking about playmaking and taking care of the ball. Taking my words within the context of what I said would be nice.
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Post#1320 » by JoeyLightYears » Sat May 22, 2021 5:00 am

Saul Goodman wrote:The Curry slander is completely nuts. That Warriors team sans curry is 2012 Charlotte Bobcats bad and he dragged it single handedly to the play in.


LeBron dragged comparable supporting casts to the Finals in 2007 and 2018 but I keep hearing that Curry is better than him.

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