Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II)

[nikster]

They called OP a madman, but he really won in the end.

OP thought the 5 games Curry played last year (20 ppg on average efficiency) was what we should expect going forward this year. Not being one of the best offensive players in the league. He thought the Warriors with curry would be trash, not playing at an almost 0.600 rate.

[thebigbird]

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[whatisacenter]

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[thebigbird]

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Enjoy the lottery this year... again.

[dynamic duo]

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curry has yet to be the best player on the floor in 5 finals and now missed the playoffs because he can't win with those cats.

[whatisacenter]

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curry has yet to be the best player on the floor in 5 finals and now missed the playoffs because he can't win with those cats.

The warriors were winning rings and I couldn't care less about individual awards and accolades.

[whatisacenter]

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thanks, I will. I am excited about the Warriors offseason and seeing what they do.

[letskissbro]

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[bovice]

curry proved that a jump shooting team could win a championship, but history has shown that is definitely NOT the most reliable way to win a championship. curry is great but their are more reliable players in the post season. if you can't see that point than you're a delusion stan and there's no reasoning with you.

So who's been more reliable in the playoffs the last several years other than lebron?

that teams that are physically imposing perform better in the playoffs than teams that are more finesse. the ability to create shots closer to the basket is more reliable than long jump shots. when the game is slower, more physical, and you have to exert energy on both ends of the floor, your legs aren't gonna let you be as accurate as you are in the regular season. I'd rather have a kawhi, lebron, kd who are elite on both ends and can get a good shot off regardless of who is on them.

[NO-KG-AI]

Steph has the ballhandling and scoring combo to always be able to create space. He will never have Nash’s vision, but he should spend this summer improving his decision making and his ability to keep his dribble and avoid traps and doubles. He should get back to the basics and adopt some of the mindset of the more pure PGs of recent years. Every star gets doubled and tripled, even non stars see those looks when the defense feels the gamble is likely to pay off.

Steph’s issues are minor in the grand scheme of things, because he’s still an all time great on offense, even when he’s a bit off, but there is still room for growth in his quarterbacking and decision making skills.

I expect him to be better next season, even if his individual stats aren’t.


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[McBubbles]

Wtf. I thought this thread was a joke, LITERALLY a low effort ironic joke. Why would there be a Curry Exposed Thread when he's just had an incredible season?

Some of you Curry haters post on the Player Comparison Board as well, nice to know you're objective lol.

[McBubbles]

He always has been since like 2015.

I am actually not sure on that one. KD is an amazing player.

And you know, you can't teach lenght. And that us working for KD

No, Steph definitely is better. KD is probably a better one on one or isolation player, but the facts are Curry got the squad he started with to a title, KD didn't do that, Harden didn't do that, CP3 didn't do that, etc.

And before people say "well he had stacked teams", no one at all was anointing Draymond or Klay as evidence of a stacked team in their early years, definitely not comparing to the squads these other players had. Steph just happens to help and allow his teammates to keep better in a way that a unselfish and legendary off-ball player can, and that a ball dominant player never could. Look at how he has taken the team he was gifted this year with players like Wiggins, JTA, Bazemore etc, and helped get them to a dangerous team by the end of the season. A lot of that of course is the coaching staff building the team around Curry's strengths, but it starts with him.

I agree with your take as a whole, and personally think Curry is in the top 20 range all time, as well as better than Harden and KD (CP3, I need to think about) but I don't agree with how you got to that take.

1. People didn't say he had stacked teams because of Draymond and Klay, they said he had stacked teams because of Draymond, Klay, Iggy and Kevin Durant. The 2017-2018 Warriors were the most stacked team of all time, even moreso than the Showtime Lakers.

Granted, most players don't win championships without a bunch of talent around them anyway, and the "super-team" criticism is one of the dumbest takes in basketball, as it rewards players for being lucky to get drafted into good situations (Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Bill Russell, etc) and penalizes them for being unlucky (LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, etc), BUT, the only championship run Curry had where his team wasn't mega stacked was facilitated by a ridiculous amount of injuries to his competition. He got one of the biggest breaks ever. Which leads to my actual point.

2. Saying he's better than KD, Harden and CP3 BECAUSE he won a championship with his OG squad doesn't make much sense as an evaluative tool. If KD played the Miami Heat with no Chris Bosh or Dwayne Wade in 2012 then he'd probably be a champion. If Chris Paul played the 2018 Warriors with no KD or Klay then he'd probably be a champion too. Your argument is basically just a variant of the Rangz Erneh argument

[Raptor_Guy]

Seeing threads like these I think, what the hell happened to the general board? Feels like every thread is made to diminish a great player's achievements. Curry is an unbelievable player and had to be triple teamed just to be slowed down to 39 points, but yea, I guess he sucks?

I'm just confused why people on this board watch basketball just to hate the best players. I understand debate of which player is better but it's not even that anymore, it's just Curry sucks, Lebron sucks, Harden sucks or whoever else had a bad game. Anyway, sorry for the rant..

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curry has yet to be the best player on the floor in 5 finals and now missed the playoffs because he can't win with those cats.

You don't understand basketball if you really believe that.

[nikster]

curry proved that a jump shooting team could win a championship, but history has shown that is definitely NOT the most reliable way to win a championship. curry is great but their are more reliable players in the post season. if you can't see that point than you're a delusion stan and there's no reasoning with you.

So who's been more reliable in the playoffs the last several years other than lebron?

that teams that are physically imposing perform better in the playoffs than teams that are more finesse. the ability to create shots closer to the basket is more reliable than long jump shots. when the game is slower, more physical, and you have to exert energy on both ends of the floor, your legs aren't gonna let you be as accurate as you are in the regular season. I'd rather have a kawhi, lebron, kd who are elite on both ends and can get a good shot off regardless of who is on them.

Ah yes Kawhi who has only 2 playoff runs at an elite level and just had a great choke job last year. KD doesn't have a great track record before Golden state, he choked a 3-1 lead while being outplayed by Curry.

[dhsilv2]

Enjoy the lottery this year... again.

To be fair, this was about as perfect an ending as the warriors could get this year. They got the 8 seed to show off curry's greatness and then they get a lottery pick to retool for next year....

As a fan of basketball I wanted to see the warriors in the playoffs and I'm upset, but if I were just a warriors fan, this was a dream.

[bovice]

So who's been more reliable in the playoffs the last several years other than lebron?

that teams that are physically imposing perform better in the playoffs than teams that are more finesse. the ability to create shots closer to the basket is more reliable than long jump shots. when the game is slower, more physical, and you have to exert energy on both ends of the floor, your legs aren't gonna let you be as accurate as you are in the regular season. I'd rather have a kawhi, lebron, kd who are elite on both ends and can get a good shot off regardless of who is on them.

Ah yes Kawhi who has only 2 playoff runs at an elite level and just had a great choke job last year. KD doesn't have a great track record before Golden state, he choked a 3-1 lead while being outplayed by Curry.

you're reading to respond and not reading to understand. look at the last 20 years of NBA champions. They are physically dominant, 2-way players who can beat you in multiple ways. Kawhi, Lebron, KD, Dwade, Shaq, Duncan, KG, Kobe. Steph does not play good defense and if his shot isn't falling, how else is he gonna beat you? Again, steph proved that his playstyle can win a championship, but it's not the ideal type of playstyle to win. If you want to win, you don't copy the 2004 pistons blueprint, you copy spurs/lakers/heat because their way wins more often. You don't copy the anomaly because it's exactly that, an anomaly.

KD being outplayed by Steph in 2016? cmon. 28/6/5 vs 30/8/3 is not being outplayed. That OKC team had no shooters and GSW was a 73-win team that season, they were expected to win.

[dhsilv2]

Steph has the ballhandling and scoring combo to always be able to create space. He will never have Nash’s vision, but he should spend this summer improving his decision making and his ability to keep his dribble and avoid traps and doubles. He should get back to the basics and adopt some of the mindset of the more pure PGs of recent years. Every star gets doubled and tripled, even non stars see those looks when the defense feels the gamble is likely to pay off.

Steph’s issues are minor in the grand scheme of things, because he’s still an all time great on offense, even when he’s a bit off, but there is still room for growth in his quarterbacking and decision making skills.

I expect him to be better next season, even if his individual stats aren’t.


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If the warriors can get the right team around him next year, he won't need to develop on that on ball point guard stuff. We'll see what they look like. But if he's got other scorers his off ball focus should be where he double's down on.

[jwise44]

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Greatest username on realgm...I and1ed you for it

[Homer38]

Enjoy the lottery this year... again.

To be fair, this was about as perfect an ending as the warriors could get this year. They got the 8 seed to show off curry's greatness and then they get a lottery pick to retool for next year....

As a fan of basketball I wanted to see the warriors in the playoffs and I'm upset, but if I were just a warriors fan, this was a dream.

Not a huge difference between the 14th pick(very likely) and the 17th pick...I know that maybe they could have a high draft pick with the Minnesota pick, but that has nothing to do with the fact that they missed the playoffs