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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1841 » by DuckIII » Sun May 16, 2021 5:40 pm

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Good thinking. Wood and Lauri would def make them 5 out on offense too.

If I'm Hou, I resign Olynyk (better, cheaper, post-season experience) before I bother for 5 seconds with Lauri. That said, I can't see Olynyk wanting to stay...he'll be coveted.

The trade that may interest them would be Sato for Gordon + a 1st. Gordon has at least 2 more seasons at $20M, but he's a servicable backup SG. That's a lot of flexibility to get a 1st, but the $ work I think.

Even crazier, we could dump everyone not nailed down (Thad, Sato, White, Brown) for Wall and 2 1sts. Wall was surprising decent this season, albeit not durable - but it fills the PG hole.

Saw this today https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-john-wall-contract-buyout-155210654.html

I would definitely sign up for a deal that nets us Wall (and 2 firsts) for Thad, Sato, White, Brown. I think the $ still work if keep White or Brown (I'd prefer to keep Brown).


Given our position, I agree this is exactly the type of things the Bulls need to be looking at as Plan B scenarios (I operate under the assumption Ball is Plan A, but who knows).
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1842 » by scottyg » Sun May 16, 2021 11:23 pm

My dream off-season is to get Demar Derozan and Kyle Lowry to both agree to team up on the bulls both kn 2 years discounts - 2 trades

Bulls trade -#1

Bulls get - Demar DeroZan (S&T 2 year 40 mill )

Spurs gets - Lauri Markananen ( S&T- 2 year 36 mil )

Why? They agree to cut ties with Markenen and bring in DeroZan to help with playmaking and scoring !

Trade # 2

Raptors get -
- Tomas Satoransky
- Thad Young

Bulls get -
- Kyle Lowry ( S&T - 2 year 48 million)

Why? The bulls make cap room and Lowry gets the raptors a couple of good role players to help replace him ! Lowry and DeroZan make one more push !
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1843 » by sco » Mon May 17, 2021 12:26 pm

scottyg wrote:My dream off-season is to get Demar Derozan and Kyle Lowry to both agree to team up on the bulls both kn 2 years discounts - 2 trades

Bulls trade -#1

Bulls get - Demar DeroZan (S&T 2 year 40 mill )

Spurs gets - Lauri Markananen ( S&T- 2 year 36 mil )

Why? They agree to cut ties with Markenen and bring in DeroZan to help with playmaking and scoring !

Trade # 2

Raptors get -
- Tomas Satoransky
- Thad Young

Bulls get -
- Kyle Lowry ( S&T - 2 year 48 million)

Why? The bulls make cap room and Lowry gets the raptors a couple of good role players to help replace him ! Lowry and DeroZan make one more push !

You had me at cut ties with Markkanen.

Seriously, I think that team would be fun for a couple years. We'd be a mess defensively, but maybe we could nab a couple of lucky vet min guys.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1844 » by Michael Jackson » Tue May 18, 2021 7:34 pm

scottyg wrote:My dream off-season is to get Demar Derozan and Kyle Lowry to both agree to team up on the bulls both kn 2 years discounts - 2 trades

Bulls trade -#1

Bulls get - Demar DeroZan (S&T 2 year 40 mill )

Spurs gets - Lauri Markananen ( S&T- 2 year 36 mil )

Why? They agree to cut ties with Markenen and bring in DeroZan to help with playmaking and scoring !

Trade # 2

Raptors get -
- Tomas Satoransky
- Thad Young

Bulls get -
- Kyle Lowry ( S&T - 2 year 48 million)

Why? The bulls make cap room and Lowry gets the raptors a couple of good role players to help replace him ! Lowry and DeroZan make one more push !


That’s a playoff team... not saying a team that gets to the playoffs but a team that can compete in the playoffs, not quite a contender but someone who could make the ECF. Still can’t see Lowry agreeing to it though.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1845 » by ChettheJet » Tue May 18, 2021 9:36 pm

As is the case annually I believe the trading partners to look for are the ones with A) new owners, B) new GMs and C) new coaches. Generally those are lottery teams or teams that lose in the first round. You need to look at the rosters of teams with any of the three and get to them quickly. New Owners want to make a splash to show they aren't like the former owners, they know better and they are willing to act. Even if they don't know spit. New GMs want to clear out what they see as mistakes of the previous guys and want to start putting in their kind of players. New coaches rub some of the players the wrong way and they try to force their way out because the new guy with his new system will take time for everybody to learn and they don't want to hang around losing in a new system.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1846 » by Am2626 » Tue May 18, 2021 11:15 pm

Do the Bulls have enough assets / capital to trade for Damian Lillard? If they don’t get a top 4 pick would include anyone except for Vuc and Zach. Maybe if Portland has an early exit Lillard may want out. A backcourt of Lillard and Zach would be electric.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1847 » by pipfan » Wed May 19, 2021 5:52 pm

PWill/Aminu for Grant

Let's say Detroit gets Green with their pick
They go with Hayes/Green/Williams/Sekou/Steward/6th man Bey as their super young core-balanced and VERY interesting

Bulls get a real 2-way #3 option who is not too old
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1848 » by Clint Eastwood » Wed May 19, 2021 7:08 pm

pipfan wrote:PWill/Aminu for Grant

Let's say Detroit gets Green with their pick
They go with Hayes/Green/Williams/Sekou/Steward/6th man Bey as their super young core-balanced and VERY interesting

Bulls get a real 2-way #3 option who is not too old

Yuck. Just absolute yuck.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1849 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed May 19, 2021 10:43 pm

Am2626 wrote:Do the Bulls have enough assets / capital to trade for Damian Lillard? If they don’t get a top 4 pick would include anyone except for Vuc and Zach. Maybe if Portland has an early exit Lillard may want out. A backcourt of Lillard and Zach would be electric.


Absolutely not. We don’t have any picks to trade.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1850 » by CobyWhite0 » Thu May 20, 2021 6:09 am

Michael Jackson wrote:
scottyg wrote:My dream off-season is to get Demar Derozan and Kyle Lowry to both agree to team up on the bulls both kn 2 years discounts - 2 trades

Bulls trade -#1

Bulls get - Demar DeroZan (S&T 2 year 40 mill )

Spurs gets - Lauri Markananen ( S&T- 2 year 36 mil )

Why? They agree to cut ties with Markenen and bring in DeroZan to help with playmaking and scoring !

Trade # 2

Raptors get -
- Tomas Satoransky
- Thad Young

Bulls get -
- Kyle Lowry ( S&T - 2 year 48 million)

Why? The bulls make cap room and Lowry gets the raptors a couple of good role players to help replace him ! Lowry and DeroZan make one more push !


That’s a playoff team... not saying a team that gets to the playoffs but a team that can compete in the playoffs, not quite a contender but someone who could make the ECF. Still can’t see Lowry agreeing to it though.


Agreed, it's too bad the DeRozan for Lauri trade doesn't come close to being allowed by the CBA. Assuming first-year salaries of $20 million for DeRozan and $18 million for Lauri, we'd have to send out another $6 million in salary because of Lauri's "BYC". With Thad and Sato going to Toronto, SA would have to take back Aminu's salary.

Maybe they do that, but I'm not sure they like Lauri enough to use up $28 million of their cap space to get him.

And personally, I don't think AKME use up their potential $41.7 million in cap space next summer on a pair of players who will be 36 and 33 for the 2022-23 season. I think if they sign anyone this summer to more than a one-year deal, it's either Lonzo or a current All-Star.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1851 » by HOTCARL_o » Sat May 22, 2021 5:04 am

If the Warriors blow the team up, trade for Curry?
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Brandon Clarke 

Post#1852 » by The Box Office » Sat May 22, 2021 8:40 am

Brandon Clarke is buried on the Grizz's bench. They don't need the kid. His trade value is cheap. We give them Lauri for Clarke straight up.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1853 » by The Box Office » Sat May 22, 2021 8:41 am

HOTCARL_o wrote:If the Warriors blow the team up, trade for Curry?


Steph Curry isn't going anywhere unless Warriors miss playoffs again for 2021-2022 season. If that happens then, yes, try to trade for him.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1854 » by Bulldog23 » Sat May 22, 2021 11:58 am

I don’t think the Bulls will invest heavily at power forward position. I see the Bulls playing Brown and Pat at the three and four with Vooch.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1855 » by sco » Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 pm

I wonder if Minny would trade Aminu straight-up for Rubio? I'd throw in our 2nd rounder to make it happen.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1856 » by ChettheJet » Sat May 22, 2021 8:00 pm

Rubio being $7.8M more I don't know that it's that simple.

Where I think Aminu, as well as Young and maybe Satoransky fit in trades is a team with someone younger, who maybe they don't think didn't measure up, signed for 2 years at PF or PG who is intending to draft a PF or PG with a lottery pick with the intention of playing their pick from the start clears out their 2 year guy for an insurance policy in the expiring veteran to backup the kid.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1857 » by sco » Sat May 22, 2021 8:29 pm

ChettheJet wrote:Rubio being $7.8M more I don't know that it's that simple.

Where I think Aminu, as well as Young and maybe Satoransky fit in trades is a team with someone younger, who maybe they don't think didn't measure up, signed for 2 years at PF or PG who is intending to draft a PF or PG with a lottery pick with the intention of playing their pick from the start clears out their 2 year guy for an insurance policy in the expiring veteran to backup the kid.

works in trade checker, but feel free to include Sato.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1858 » by patryk7754 » Mon May 24, 2021 12:15 am

So its likely the 76ers have another disappointing postseason and Simmions and Embiid continue to struggle to play at a high level together. so with that in mind

Young, Sato, White, 2021 first (if we get it) and a future first for Simmons.

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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1859 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Mon May 24, 2021 1:02 am

patryk7754 wrote:So its likely the 76ers have another disappointing postseason and Simmions and Embiid continue to struggle to play at a high level together. so with that in mind

Young, Sato, White, 2021 first (if we get it) and a future first for Simmons.

Simmons
Lavine
Williams
Vuc
Theis


Pretty insulting to not include Pat Williams for a top 20 player that hasn’t entered his prime yet.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1860 » by Am2626 » Mon May 24, 2021 1:32 am

The Box Office wrote:
HOTCARL_o wrote:If the Warriors blow the team up, trade for Curry?


Steph Curry isn't going anywhere unless Warriors miss playoffs again for 2021-2022 season. If that happens then, yes, try to trade for him.


No chance Warriors miss the playoffs next year. They are getting back Klay Thompson. Also may be adding 2 lottery picks. Their future looks really good.

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