Draft Thread Part 4

[DreamTeam09]

I wouldn't take Green over Cade just base on Cade being a 6'8 wing player. Slotting Cade at the 2 and have him running the point with the ability to slide to the 3 or even 4 on some cases while running the point so fred can stay off the ball more than on the ball is exactly what we need. This mismatches that can be created or hunted down by cade brings our offense to another level.

I say this while thinking Green is box office and exactly what we need also. So I don't think we can go wrong in the top 3.

4 is the real wild card. I'm not as high on Suggs as I am as the potential of Kuminga

I feel like if we manage to get the 4th pick Masai will take Kuminga

There is no doubt in my mind that Suggs will be way better than Kaminga.

I think his ceiling is higher as a PG compared to a SG/Combo guard. If Kuminga becomes a bigger Jaylen Brown it'll be hard for Suggs to top that imo. Granted I haven't really done my hmk on Suggs due to my bias against 6'4 players and under. We have too many of those guys already.

[WuTang_CMB]

Evan Mobley is from SD. Maybe Kawhi will put in a good word for us.

the only team mobley follows is the raptors

The conspiracy nut in me says the fix is in for Silver disrespecting Masai for the cop incident, not to mention not supporting the Raptors more financially in Tampa. I don't believe it's the case but it is an odd thing to me out of all the teams why just the Raps though...

While personally I want Jalen Green more than anyone in the draft, it would be amazing to get Mobley and hard to pass on a guy with that kinda talent that actually loves the team...

I thought I heard MLSE will be going to the NBA for financial relief once season is over as they will have all the costs and NBA will be helping us out

[WuTang_CMB]

All the guys post 5 have their share weaknesses (I would say Kuminga does too but he has one of the highest ceilings)

I'm sure out of Barnes/Johnson/Sengun, we will make the right decision (I do believe those are the top 3 guys based on talent/upside and 2 way potential)

[DreamTeam09]

All the guys post 5 have their share weaknesses (I would say Kuminga does too but he has one of the highest ceilings)

I'm sure out of Barnes/Johnson/Sengun, we will make the right decision (I do believe those are the top 3 guys based on talent/upside and 2 way potential)

Those are the 3 guys I want the least too ffs smh lol. i'd take the wait and see approach but i'd much rather Bouknight / Moody / Ziaire Willams / Man or move back for Kai Jones

[Reeko]

Players that should be in consideration at 7:
Keon, Mann, Springer, Ayo, Barnes, Moody.

[RapsFanInOhio]

I don’t think there’s any way Kuminga goes ahead of any of Green, Cade, Suggs, or Mobley. There is no justification for that based on how he performed / shot in the G League. To me, there’s a higher chance a team reaches for someone we view as “below” him than there is he goes top 4. The top 4 are locks right now and the only unknown is what order they’ll be going in.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

I can’t believe shooting guard defense is about to get Keon in the top 7 lol. His scoring and ball handling ability leave a lot to be desired. Springer honestly looks better than him (same team) but Springer is always mocked way lower

[Dalek]

I feel like if we manage to get the 4th pick Masai will take Kuminga

There is no doubt in my mind that Suggs will be way better than Kaminga.

I think his ceiling is higher as a PG compared to a SG/Combo guard. If Kuminga becomes a bigger Jaylen Brown it'll be hard for Suggs to top that imo. Granted I haven't really done my hmk on Suggs due to my bias against 6'4 players and under. We have too many of those guys already.

I think if you are looking for ideal height, 6'4 is great for a PG. I think the big draw with Suggs is his burst getting downhill and his in-game management and great defense. He's a lead guard, not a SG with some playmaking (aka combo).

I'd argue Jaden Springer is pretty similar but you can tell by the types of assists Suggs makes, he is slightly ahead. These are the plays where I jump out of my seat when I watch Suggs:

3/4 court cross the body pass

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[TD2FutureStar]

I'd love to have a big PG for once in Suggs

[billy_hoyle]

I'd love to have a big PG for once in Suggs

I think Suggs is a great fit on the raps.

Big and gritty enough to D up SG.

Quick/explosive enough to guard PGs.

Floor game of a lead guard (ideal next to FVV).

Seems very smart.

Can he shoot it? Is he dynamic enough? Is he actually big and gritty enough to guard NBA size smaller wings?

You can see why he is mocked top 5.

I'm really hoping to move into the top 4. That said, I could see a team trading up for Suggs (and conversely trading down too). He's not a can't miss prospect.

[Bruin]

I'd love to have a big PG for once in Suggs

I think Suggs is a great fit on the raps.

Big and gritty enough to D up SG.

Quick/explosive enough to guard PGs.

Floor game of a lead guard (ideal next to FVV).

Seems very smart.

Can he shoot it? Is he dynamic enough? Is he actually big and gritty enough to guard NBA size smaller wings?

You can see why he is mocked top 5.

I'm really hoping to move into the top 4. That said, I could see a team trading up for Suggs (and conversely trading down too). He's not a can't miss prospect.

If he is indeed Brandon Roy 2.0 like some say then he is a can’t miss prospect

[WuTang_CMB]

All the guys post 5 have their share weaknesses (I would say Kuminga does too but he has one of the highest ceilings)

I'm sure out of Barnes/Johnson/Sengun, we will make the right decision (I do believe those are the top 3 guys based on talent/upside and 2 way potential)

Those are the 3 guys I want the least too ffs smh lol. i'd take the wait and see approach but i'd much rather Bouknight / Moody / Ziaire Willams / Man or move back for Kai Jones

Oh i forgot Moody. He’s a 2 way guy who scored pretty well in his freshman year and a better scorer than any of those guys. Has limitations athletic wise / driving but agajn they all bave limitations picks 6+.

This lottery is too fkin far lol

[Federalies]

If we end up staying in the 7-10 range, I have to believe Moses Moody gets serious consideration.

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[Tofubeque]

I can’t believe shooting guard defense is about to get Keon in the top 7 lol. His scoring and ball handling ability leave a lot to be desired. Springer honestly looks better than him (same team) but Springer is always mocked way lower

I think the highschool mixtape hype train has him in the top 10, same as Kuminga. The strong defense is a justification after the fact. Because I'm not seeing anything else to his game.

With Kuminga it's "defensive potential" and "scoring potential" because he doesn't actually do either currently lol. Only the 2 most important things for a wing prospect.

That said these guys are so young they have a lot of time to figure it out, just look at Cameron Payne (drafted 14th) having a legit role in the playoffs after getting bounced around the worst teams in the NBA. The team that drafts Keon might just subsidize his development so he can go be good somewhere else, that's the draft sometimes.

[WuTang_CMB]

Yeah, getting Green would be franchise changing

I believe so would Cade and Mobley BUT not bring the same level of commercial appeal and just flat out excitement Green would.

But Green is the one dude I could see takeover in a Playoff series and just dominate the way Kawhi did.

I agree with u on Green but I have no doubt Cade can also too. He does everything offensively (and imo has better form than Green).

[bballsparkin]

I said "worst case scenario" he projects to be a Clint Capela type. Best case scenario is Rudy Gobert.

Still, I don't see it. I get being concerned that he could struggle offensively. The NBA doesn't make it easy for tall guys without a good shot. And from my understanding Mobley's is a work in progress. Plus, I've seen some doubts with his motor/drive, which would definitely be concerning if true. Yet, Capela I don't see the comparisons other than tall and good at defense/rebounding.

Like mentioned, Mobley can shoot free throws reasonably well. Which is a good sign with respect to developing his shot. Capela has never shown much promise as an offensive player. I understand Green or Cade before him, but that's as far as I could imagine him falling. Unless, a team loves Suggs or is stacked with bigs.

[billy_hoyle]

I'd love to have a big PG for once in Suggs

I think Suggs is a great fit on the raps.

Big and gritty enough to D up SG.

Quick/explosive enough to guard PGs.

Floor game of a lead guard (ideal next to FVV).

Seems very smart.

Can he shoot it? Is he dynamic enough? Is he actually big and gritty enough to guard NBA size smaller wings?

You can see why he is mocked top 5.

I'm really hoping to move into the top 4. That said, I could see a team trading up for Suggs (and conversely trading down too). He's not a can't miss prospect.

If he is indeed Brandon Roy 2.0 like some say then he is a can’t miss prospect

The operative word is IF.

Same can be said for almost every player.

If Davion is Kyle Lowry 2.0, then he's ALSO a can't miss prospect.

If Keon Johnson is Oladipo 2.0, then he's also a can't miss prospect.

I'm just saying that he's not Zion, AD or Kyrie. Guys that were can't miss stars. He's an Anthony Edwards, a guy with star upside and an obvious high ceiling, but question marks too. Theses picks can get moved.

****... Doncic got traded on draft night.

[bballsparkin]

If we end up staying in the 7-10 range, I have to believe Moses Moody gets serious consideration.

All SEC 1st team
All SEC Freshman 1st team
SEC Freshman of the year
Only one and done in Arkansas history

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I'm down with drafting Moody. Part of me hopes we do. He would be such a nice fit. And it would signal that the FO thinks he can add more to his game.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I can’t believe shooting guard defense is about to get Keon in the top 7 lol. His scoring and ball handling ability leave a lot to be desired. Springer honestly looks better than him (same team) but Springer is always mocked way lower

Springer doesn't make the highlight reel as often. These mainstream NBA "experts" who draw up mock drafts don't actually watch games, they only watch highlights.

[Son Goku 25]

There is no doubt in my mind that Suggs will be way better than Kaminga.

I think his ceiling is higher as a PG compared to a SG/Combo guard. If Kuminga becomes a bigger Jaylen Brown it'll be hard for Suggs to top that imo. Granted I haven't really done my hmk on Suggs due to my bias against 6'4 players and under. We have too many of those guys already.

I think if you are looking for ideal height, 6'4 is great for a PG. I think the big draw with Suggs is his burst getting downhill and his in-game management and great defense. He's a lead guard, not a SG with some playmaking (aka combo).

I'd argue Jaden Springer is pretty similar but you can tell by the types of assists Suggs makes, he is slightly ahead. These are the plays where I jump out of my seat when I watch Suggs:

3/4 court cross the body pass

Read on Twitter

Full court pitch ahead

Read on Twitter

Best part was the guy comparing him to Matt Jones kinda like our own Leo Rautins would never heard of him