djFan71 wrote:Kemba, Smart, Nesmith, '21, '23, pick swaps for '22, '24 for Beal and Bertan's crappy contract.
Great, but I dunno if I can look at Bertans sad face all the time.
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djFan71 wrote:Kemba, Smart, Nesmith, '21, '23, pick swaps for '22, '24 for Beal and Bertan's crappy contract.
MaxwellSmart wrote:djFan71 wrote:Kemba, Smart, Nesmith, '21, '23, pick swaps for '22, '24 for Beal and Bertan's crappy contract.
Great, but I dunno if I can look at Bertans sad face all the time.
Hal14 wrote:robbie84 wrote:Other than a minor miracle that is...
We'd obviously have to send out Kemba. So what does Washington need to even pick up the phone?
Let's assume everyone/every pick is on the table except:
Tatum
Brown
Rob
Do we have anything that they'd take to take back Kemba?
I'd be willing to part with Rob if it meant getting Beal...especially given Rob's injury history and the fact that he has not shown he can handle 30 mins a game at the NBA level, ever.
But I'd rather not part with Brown. Trading Brown for Beal defeats the purpose. You need 3 stars to win in this league. We have 2 stars now. If we trade Brown for Beal, we still have 2 stars. 1 of them might be slightly better than the other, but Brown is bigger, younger, better rebounder, just as good defensively, just as good passing and Brown already as years of chemistry built with the Celtics, Beal would be starting from scratch.
I am thinking some combination of:
Rob
Fournier (sign and trade)
Kemba
Smart
Nesmith
Langford
Pritchard
Up to 3 1st round picks
That's 8 assets. You package up 4-5 of them, maybe even 6 and see if Washington will go for it.
Disinformation wrote:BRUNiNHO91 wrote:ddb wrote:
Highly doubtful Boston would even include Jaylen Brown. But if they would it’s a Brown for Beal straight up swap.
I think more likely it’s a Smart/Nesmith/Thompson/#16/ plus additional 1st rd picks for Beal.
Yuhp. We have to look at a possible Beal trade the way Brooklyn looked at the Harden trade. They didnt jump at it and traded Kyrie for him.. They traded LeVert, Allen and a **** ton of picks. Brown has to be our Kyrie on such a trade or else what's the point?
Beal isn't going to be traded though.. At least not yet. Dude seems very loyal to Washington and has a good head on his shoulder.
Keeping Brown while getting Beal would be phenomenal from a talent perspective. But what about from a team construction perspective? Three scorers with no facilitator? What am I missing?
Triple7 wrote:Jaylen, Romeo and Timelord for Beal and Gafford!
Dogen wrote:Triple7 wrote:Jaylen, Romeo and Timelord for Beal and Gafford!
I wanted the C's to draft Gafford, would love to have him here with Beal.
Dogen wrote:Kemba, Rob Will, Nesmith (or Romeo, Wiz's choice) + 2 firsts for Beal & Bertans. This only works if Beal says he will opt out and wants the Celtics.
Maybe the Beal, Brown, Tatum troika is not an ideal compliment, skill-wise, as there's lots of iso potential, but that's enough talent to get Brooklyn to at least break a sweat, and it would be up to those three guys to figure it all out with the new coach.
Smart, Beal, Brown, Tatum, Thompson
Pritchard, Romeo, Parker, Bertans, G Williams
The rest can go pound sand. Maybe keep Luke around.
Bring over Madar
Hire Kara Lawson
Look to sign someone with SIZE
ddb wrote:The Comedian wrote:It will take Jaylen, and picks, and someone like Romeo.
Highly doubtful Boston would even include Jaylen Brown. But if they would it’s a Brown for Beal straight up swap.
I think more likely it’s a Smart/Nesmith/Thompson/#16/ plus additional 1st rd picks for Beal.
Triple7 wrote:Jaylen, Romeo and Timelord for Beal and Gafford!
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Disinformation wrote:BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Yuhp. We have to look at a possible Beal trade the way Brooklyn looked at the Harden trade. They didnt jump at it and traded Kyrie for him.. They traded LeVert, Allen and a **** ton of picks. Brown has to be our Kyrie on such a trade or else what's the point?
Beal isn't going to be traded though.. At least not yet. Dude seems very loyal to Washington and has a good head on his shoulder.
Keeping Brown while getting Beal would be phenomenal from a talent perspective. But what about from a team construction perspective? Three scorers with no facilitator? What am I missing?
I feel like Jayson Tatum is easily on his way to being an above average facilitator. Dude made all the right plays and passes this year when he got doubled and tripled, we just didnt have the talent to take advantage. IMO, you put the three together and worry about the rest later.
moonie_mcgee wrote:Triple7 wrote:Jaylen, Romeo and Timelord for Beal and Gafford!
that'd be real nice.
Smart Beal Tatum Gafford
I think Parker could join that 4 with a competent trainer.
Who would you add to that core? Is he on the roster?
I'm thinking more of a front court guy than back court.
Disinformation wrote:BRUNiNHO91 wrote:ddb wrote:
Highly doubtful Boston would even include Jaylen Brown. But if they would it’s a Brown for Beal straight up swap.
I think more likely it’s a Smart/Nesmith/Thompson/#16/ plus additional 1st rd picks for Beal.
Yuhp. We have to look at a possible Beal trade the way Brooklyn looked at the Harden trade. They didnt jump at it and traded Kyrie for him.. They traded LeVert, Allen and a **** ton of picks. Brown has to be our Kyrie on such a trade or else what's the point?
Beal isn't going to be traded though.. At least not yet. Dude seems very loyal to Washington and has a good head on his shoulder.
Keeping Brown while getting Beal would be phenomenal from a talent perspective. But what about from a team construction perspective? Three scorers with no facilitator? What am I missing?
Brett43 wrote:Disinformation wrote:BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Yuhp. We have to look at a possible Beal trade the way Brooklyn looked at the Harden trade. They didnt jump at it and traded Kyrie for him.. They traded LeVert, Allen and a **** ton of picks. Brown has to be our Kyrie on such a trade or else what's the point?
Beal isn't going to be traded though.. At least not yet. Dude seems very loyal to Washington and has a good head on his shoulder.
Keeping Brown while getting Beal would be phenomenal from a talent perspective. But what about from a team construction perspective? Three scorers with no facilitator? What am I missing?
I don't think you're missing anything. It doesn't make sense. I would much rather trade for Lonzo. Or trade Kemba for Steven Adams since they both have ridiculous salaries. They can have Ojeleye, Edwards, and Grant Williams, too. They might need a new point guard if Lonzo departs for greener pastures other than Boston.
This would be awesome:
Lonzo (sign and trade for $20M) + Steven Adams ($30 M) == Kemba ($37.6M !!!!) + TT ($9.3 M) + CE (1.5) + SO (1.8) + pick
Its an issue. We don't want to hollow roster, and we don't want to trade brown. I just don't see a realistic deal.ddb wrote:The Comedian wrote:It will take Jaylen, and picks, and someone like Romeo.
Highly doubtful Boston would even include Jaylen Brown. But if they would it’s a Brown for Beal straight up swap.
I think more likely it’s a Smart/Nesmith/Thompson/#16/ plus additional 1st rd picks for Beal.
This is absolutely what is gonna happen.bisme37 wrote:Need our guy JT to do some colluding with his buddy like all the other top players do. If Beal comes out and says he wants to be a Celtic that would really help make it happen.
I want ball here, but that doesn't improve team. Who replaces kembas scoring?moonie_mcgee wrote:Brett43 wrote:Disinformation wrote:
Keeping Brown while getting Beal would be phenomenal from a talent perspective. But what about from a team construction perspective? Three scorers with no facilitator? What am I missing?
I don't think you're missing anything. It doesn't make sense. I would much rather trade for Lonzo. Or trade Kemba for Steven Adams since they both have ridiculous salaries. They can have Ojeleye, Edwards, and Grant Williams, too. They might need a new point guard if Lonzo departs for greener pastures other than Boston.
This would be awesome:
Lonzo (sign and trade for $20M) + Steven Adams ($30 M) == Kemba ($37.6M !!!!) + TT ($9.3 M) + CE (1.5) + SO (1.8) + pick
That'd significantly improve the team.
Ball bring terrific pace, vision and size at the point, and Adams, at what 27, is a reliable 7 footer and one of the physically strongest players in the league.