If Portland blows it up...

[d-train]

Celtics fan here. Would you guys consider this deal?

Blazers in: Marcus Smart + Evan Fournier (signed and traded to the Blazers)
Celtics in: CJ McCollum

Let's say Fournier signs a 3-year contract for a total of $66 million (or something along these lines).

We would take Smart but not Fournier. Lillard, CJ, Nurk, Powell, RoCo, and Collins are off the table in a trade for Smart. That leaves DJJ, if he opts in, and maybe something else.

If the player you were dreaming of getting is off the table, too bad. That's why most trades don't happen. They die in the dustbin of dumb ideas.

It's time to get another table! Lillard and Nurkic are the only untouchables on my table.

The table should change depending on the deal being considered. Most of the time everyone is off the table. Smart is a very good player, so consideration should be given to trading some players. If Joker is offered, then everyone is on the table. Realistically, deals are rare. There were a lot of unique circumstances that made the GTJ trade possible. Raptors only made that trade because of the possibilities they have to sweeten the deal.

[wjun15]

Celtics fan here. Would you guys consider this deal?

Blazers in: Marcus Smart + Evan Fournier (signed and traded to the Blazers)
Celtics in: CJ McCollum

Let's say Fournier signs a 3-year contract for a total of $66 million (or something along these lines).

We would take Smart but not Fournier. Lillard, CJ, Nurk, Powell, RoCo, and Collins are off the table in a trade for Smart. That leaves DJJ, if he opts in, and maybe something else.

If the player you were dreaming of getting is off the table, too bad. That's why most trades don't happen. They die in the dustbin of dumb ideas.

It's time to get another table! Lillard and Nurkic are the only untouchables on my table.

I prefer a replacement for Nurk. He's very injury prone, and doesn't show up when it counts. I don't see him getting any better

[wjun15]

Only tradeable should be Dame and Covington imo. Simons is not a backup pg he is one dimensional can't pass can't drive. He's a spot up shooter. Our bench is trash. Stotts should've played nassir little more this year.

[d-train]

Only tradeable should be Dame and Covington imo. Simons is not a backup pg he is one dimensional can't pass can't drive. He's a spot up shooter. Our bench is trash. Stotts should've played nassir little more this year.

Good news, Stotts will play Little more next year.

[JasonStern]

CJ got paid. But imagine being Norm Powell wanting $20M/season and playing very mediocre in the playoffs when it mattered. Or Melo trying to stay in the league being black hole.

Or even crazier. Imagine having such an imbalanced roster depending on hero ball to win that this is the best you can do when building a team.

[HoopsFanAZ]

Lillard, Powell, RoCo.

BIGS: Nurkic stays, works on conditioning and mobility. NEED — Mobile big, long arms, protects the rim, plays D, gets D rebounds, gets garbage buckets. Isn’t named Kanter.

FORWARDS: The place to upgrade. Bye, CJ and package deal player(s)/pick. Melo can be a part-time microwave. Collins stays for cheap.

GUARDS: Powell starts at SG. MUST have a back-up PG. Even Denver had one who put in serious effort at both ends!

This was a BAD playoff series loss. Denver is a good team with a good coach. I’m glad for them. Tipping Point Reached. Nurkic knows it. I don’t celebrate this loss. It sucks. Time’s up.

[d-train]

It's going be a long summer. It the complainers and naysayers turn to rant for months. This might be a good time to take 5 months off from RealGM.

[DaVoiceMaster]

If Portland decides to trade Lillard, what about Lillard and CJ to Philly for Simmons, Harris, Maxey, and Thybull?

Simmons / Simons
Powell / Maxey / Elleby
Covington / Thybull / Little
Harris / Collins / Melo
Nurkic / Kanter

Does that team do any better?

[Epicurus]

If Portland decides to trade Lillard, what about Lillard and CJ to Philly for Simmons, Harris, Maxey, and Thybull?

Simmons / Simons
Powell / Maxey / Elleby
Covington / Thybull / Little
Harris / Collins / Melo
Nurkic / Kanter

Does that team do any better?

How well did Philly do without Embid? Thereupon lies the answer to your question ( I don't know it myself)?

[Epicurus]

If the Blazers can get a real and decent PF for McCollum, they should end this backcourt redundancy. Someone at least 6'9", 235 lbs, with reach and some meanness. Maybe Giles can have great workouts in the offseason and become that which was so lacking this season. Maybe Collins will get healthy and show growth from the last time he played (which I have forgotten). Then get a backup PG and let Powell/Simmons be the SG tandem.

[Blazinaway]

It's going be a long summer. It the complainers and naysayers turn to rant for months. This might be a good time to take 5 months off from RealGM.

My god man there is good reason for "complaining", and yeah I think you definitely need to take some time off and get a reality check

[BlazersBroncos]

Posted this in the T&T. We need to go all in or move Dame. Its time to make some big decisions. This would be my plan:

PDX needs to sacrifice numerous future draft picks for a serious upgrade or blow it all up.

Portland Trades
CJ McCollum
Derrick Jones Jr
2023 FRP - Unprotected
2024 FRP Swap - Unprotected
2025 FRP - Top-3 Protected
2026 FRP Swap - Top-3 Protected

Miami Trades
Jimmy Butler
Andre Igoudala

Resign Norman Powell (3/60)
Resign Zach Collins (QO)
Resign Carmelo Anthony (VM)
Resign Rhondae Hollis-Jefferson (VM)
Sign Taj Gibson to the BAE
Sign Tony Snell to a portion of the MLE
Sign Kris Dunn to a portion of the MLE

G - Damian Lillard / Anfernee Simons / Kris Dunn
G - Norman Powell / Tony Snell / Anfernee Simons
F - Jimmy Butler / Andre Igoudala / Nassir Little
F - Robert Covington / Carmelo Anthony / Rhondae Hollis-Jefferson
C - Jusuf Nurkic / Zach Collins / Taj Gibson

[PDXKnight]

Posted this in the T&T. We need to go all in or move Dame. Its time to make some big decisions. This would be my plan:

PDX needs to sacrifice numerous future draft picks for a serious upgrade or blow it all up.

Portland Trades
CJ McCollum
Derrick Jones Jr
2023 FRP - Unprotected
2024 FRP Swap - Unprotected
2025 FRP - Top-3 Protected
2026 FRP Swap - Top-3 Protected

Miami Trades
Jimmy Butler
Andre Igoudala

Resign Norman Powell (3/60)
Resign Zach Collins (QO)
Resign Carmelo Anthony (VM)
Resign Rhondae Hollis-Jefferson (VM)
Sign Taj Gibson to the BAE
Sign Tony Snell to a portion of the MLE
Sign Kris Dunn to a portion of the MLE

G - Damian Lillard / Anfernee Simons / Kris Dunn
G - Norman Powell / Tony Snell / Anfernee Simons
F - Jimmy Butler / Andre Igoudala / Nassir Little
F - Robert Covington / Carmelo Anthony / Rhondae Hollis-Jefferson
C - Jusuf Nurkic / Zach Collins / Taj Gibson

i think this is an overpay for an aging butler. i would have offered this for harden

[BlazersBroncos]

i think this is an overpay for an aging butler. i would have offered this for harden

Overpay is the only way that we get a player of Butler's caliber. Maybe the protections can be adjusted but end of the day if we are not ready to sacrifice multiple FRP's to improve this roster, then we should trade Dame.

[d-train]

It's going be a long summer. It the complainers and naysayers turn to rant for months. This might be a good time to take 5 months off from RealGM.

My god man there is good reason for "complaining", and yeah I think you definitely need to take some time off and get a reality check

There is better reason to appreciate our very good team. And, pick through the best opportunities to continue to strengthen it.

[d-train]

i think this is an overpay for an aging butler. i would have offered this for harden

Overpay is the only way that we get a player of Butler's caliber. Maybe the protections can be adjusted but end of the day if we are not ready to sacrifice multiple FRP's to improve this roster, then we should trade Dame.

We can keep Lillard and not overpay for a player that wouldn't make us better.

We lost to the team likely on their way to WCF. The only reason we lost is we couldn't keep Nurk on the court. How would Butler help? Butler can't improve our team's ability to contain Joker when Nurk is out of the game.

It would be wiser to pay to keep the good team we have.

[sodmoraes]

If the Blazers can get a real and decent PF for McCollum, they should end this backcourt redundancy. Someone at least 6'9", 235 lbs, with reach and some meanness. Maybe Giles can have great workouts in the offseason and become that which was so lacking this season. Maybe Collins will get healthy and show growth from the last time he played (which I have forgotten). Then get a backup PG and let Powell/Simmons be the SG tandem.

Would you guys trade Cj for Tobias Harris? He played really good this year, but he isos a lot in the post( redudant with Embiid) and he´s not a willing 3 pt shooter ( but he shot 40% this year). If we get Cj our backcourt would be way better, and we could move Simmons to the PF spot, where he trully belongs.

For Dame, the sixers would probably trade Simmons, Thybulle and 2 picks( maybe maxey too, but i dont wanna give him up, he´s gonna be good). Would you guys think it´s a fair offer?

This offers lead me to another question: How much Dame is better than CJ? Because if we could get CJ in a Tobias swap, our team would be way more balanced. To get Dame, we would have to spend a lot of assests.

[d-train]

If the Blazers can get a real and decent PF for McCollum, they should end this backcourt redundancy. Someone at least 6'9", 235 lbs, with reach and some meanness. Maybe Giles can have great workouts in the offseason and become that which was so lacking this season. Maybe Collins will get healthy and show growth from the last time he played (which I have forgotten). Then get a backup PG and let Powell/Simmons be the SG tandem.

Karl Malone is available. But, Karl Malone and John Stockton lost a lot of playoff games before Jazz got Jeff Hornacek. A good example of how %Malone% plus CJ is good, but %Malone% instead of CJ goes nowhere.

[BlazersBroncos]

I would welcome a CJ for Harris trade with open arms, but would prefer to attach a ton of picks and aim higher.

[Kobewade11]

Coming in peace. Some Heat fans want to know what you guys think of a package built around Herro & Bam for Lillard. Do you lean more towards "intrigued, but would like more (if so, what)" or do you lean towards that package being a non-conversation starter/better deals available elsewhere?

thanks