Around the NBA - First Round Blessings and Curses

[K_ick_God]

TBH and this doesn't belong here I'm still in a state of shock at how Julius played. He made a lot of strides so I guess you can't kill him for 5 bad games ... really 4.5. But still. It's rough to think about how many mistakes he made and how it got worse as he went.

[K_ick_God]

Oh and I am still all in on Mitch and Obi too. I think the way Obi finished is really promising honestly. He may have a higher ceiling than RJ even.

[Guano]

Payton
Oladipo
Rudy Gay
Randle
Drummond

This line-up could singlehandedly open a wormhole and allow us to find a better world where the NBA doesn't exist.

I think it's worth it.

i'll steal shams nets banner and link up with GreenArrow in the nets forum if this happens

[ENYK]

Oh and I am still all in on Mitch and Obi too. I think the way Obi finished is really promising honestly. He may have a higher ceiling than RJ even.

I feel like IQ is the one to watch if he can get some consistent minutes next season... Can really shoot it, create for himself off the dribble, not a complete minus defender (although all the guards were useless against Trae).

But he plays for Thibs, so who knows how much room he'll get to play. We probably re-sign Rose and Quick gets the same exact minutes.

[K_ick_God]

Oh and I am still all in on Mitch and Obi too. I think the way Obi finished is really promising honestly. He may have a higher ceiling than RJ even.

I feel like IQ is the one to watch if he can get some consistent minutes next season... Can really shoot it, create for himself off the dribble, not a complete minus defender (although all the guards were useless against Trae).

But he plays for Thibs, so who knows how much room he'll get to play. We probably re-sign Rose and Quick gets the same exact minutes.

I like Q too and he has a lot of good qualities. It's those guys. Now I'm not sure about Randle. I don't know what you do with Julius.

[SelbyCobra]

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[ENYK]

Oh and I am still all in on Mitch and Obi too. I think the way Obi finished is really promising honestly. He may have a higher ceiling than RJ even.

I feel like IQ is the one to watch if he can get some consistent minutes next season... Can really shoot it, create for himself off the dribble, not a complete minus defender (although all the guards were useless against Trae).

But he plays for Thibs, so who knows how much room he'll get to play. We probably re-sign Rose and Quick gets the same exact minutes.

I like Q too and he has a lot of good qualities. It's those guys. Now I'm not sure about Randle but not sure. I don't know what you do with Julius.

You sell high on Julius to a team that has picks (preferably this draft) or promising players on rookie deals... If GS would give us their pick (assuming it's in the top 4) for Randle and we take back Wiggins, I do that deal immediately. Randle makes sense for their timeline as a 3rd/4th option, and a high pick in this stacked lotto makes sense for ours.

[ENYK]

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Nobody talks about him because apparently the Process doesn't work... Suns are killing it with Booker and Ayton, two big FA signings I guess.

Would love if New York could for once go the FULL rebuild route, had the patience for it.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Monte Morris can do a lot more than Bullock

They certainly have different roles. And I agree Monte is a good player. But so is Reggie. (Eg, their 3pt% is similar, but Reggie takes twice as many. Stocks are similar, but Morris obviously has many more assists ... but is a back-up.)

So if Monte deserves much more than 27/3 where does that leave Reggie?

Morris can run an offense, something Bullock can't, which makes him more valuable IMO

I think Bullock could fetch 3/24 (isn't that the amount of the MLE?)....I wouldn't give it to him. would only offer him a 1yr deal. don't wanna tie up long-term $ to someone that's pretty replaceable

Yeah, somewhere near the Knicks original deal of 2/20 with the 2nd year a TO is probably close. Again, this is a person who's 3pt %age will go up if elsewhere next year and I can see analytics depts telling FOs that Knick shooting numbers aren't telling a true story and need to be inflated. I think he gets more than 3/24 over the next 3 years, but I'm not quite sure how he gets there. Maybe a cheap one year deal on a team without Elf as the starting PG at say 6 and then sign for 40/3 the next year?

[YouthMovement]

Oh and I am still all in on Mitch and Obi too. I think the way Obi finished is really promising honestly. He may have a higher ceiling than RJ even.

obi will really benefit from having competent point guard play

[K_ick_God]

Some of what Obi did around the basket to me was highly noteworthy.

[ENYK]

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Nobody talks about him because apparently the Process doesn't work... Suns are killing it with Booker and Ayton, two big FA signings I guess.

Would love if New York could for once go the FULL rebuild route, had the patience for it.

I also think Ayton's game blows apart the notion that a traditional, low post athletic center in the Ewing/Hakeem mode isn't effective in today's NBA.

If you have a strong, athletic big guy with some post moves and the ability to play the pick and roll, there's not much these undersized line ups can do to stop it.

It looks uglier and it might take more time for them to develop (efficiency wise) than a player that comes into the league splashing threes, but there's really no stopping a huge, mobile, competent traditional big man.

The Suns are going to be scary as they develop... I hope they can hold onto their core and get a title. Would be great for the franchise and the game with a traditional big as your number two.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Never doubt the FARBOD!!!!!

He called the harden trade way before it happened it!!!!!

[Oscirus]

the fg percentage of someone who made the bare minimum requirement aint all that impressive. Its a fine stat but eh

[Fury]

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Nobody talks about him because apparently the Process doesn't work... Suns are killing it with Booker and Ayton, two big FA signings I guess.

Would love if New York could for once go the FULL rebuild route, had the patience for it.

We’ve had the worst record twice? And dropped down twice. And Devin Booker wasn’t a top 5 pick. Even if we went for the number 1 pick, we have no luck.

[ENYK]

This forum usually cares so little about this guy so I almost didn't post this, but in the end it's a really cool stat.

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Nobody talks about him because apparently the Process doesn't work... Suns are killing it with Booker and Ayton, two big FA signings I guess.

Would love if New York could for once go the FULL rebuild route, had the patience for it.

We’ve had the worst record twice? And dropped down twice. And Devin Booker wasn’t a top 5 pick. Even if we went for the number 1 pick, we have no luck.

The problem is, we don't know how to effectively orchestrate a rebuild. The Suns were terrible for a decade plus, messed up a bunch of lotto picks, and finally struck gold on two of them. That's just how it works. Small market teams have the patience for that, and it pays off... same with the Bucks, Sixers, etc.

The Knicks have selected in the top 4 only three times in 36 years, and they've been unwatchably bad for about 60% of that time.

The only thing we haven't tried at this point is consecutive seasons of true tanking. We tank one season, then try to make a run... Gotta just pick one direction or the other.

[TheGreenArrow]

Oh and I am still all in on Mitch and Obi too. I think the way Obi finished is really promising honestly. He may have a higher ceiling than RJ even.

If we’re being honest Rj is probably our 4th best prospect
And that’s being kind!!!!

If frank got more minutes/a bigger leash Rj would probably be 5th!!!!

[robillionaire]

Nobody talks about him because apparently the Process doesn't work... Suns are killing it with Booker and Ayton, two big FA signings I guess.

Would love if New York could for once go the FULL rebuild route, had the patience for it.

We’ve had the worst record twice? And dropped down twice. And Devin Booker wasn’t a top 5 pick. Even if we went for the number 1 pick, we have no luck.

The problem is, we don't know how to effectively orchestrate a rebuild. The Suns were terrible for a decade plus, messed up a bunch of lotto picks, and finally struck gold on two of them. That's just how it works. Small market teams have the patience for that, and it pays off... same with the Bucks, Sixers, etc.

The Knicks have selected in the top 4 only three times in 36 years, and they've been unwatchably bad for about 60% of that time.

The only thing we haven't tried at this point is consecutive seasons of true tanking. We tank one season, then try to make a run... Gotta just pick one direction or the other.

The Suns could have taken Luka Doncic I don’t care about this dude’s FG% this whole board would have crucified him by now for not being Luka Doncic if we drafted him

Booker was taken 13th. We can pull that off. All we have to do is keep drafting Kentucky players over and over and it will work out

[KnicksGadfly]

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Nobody talks about him because apparently the Process doesn't work... Suns are killing it with Booker and Ayton, two big FA signings I guess.

Would love if New York could for once go the FULL rebuild route, had the patience for it.

We’ve had the worst record twice? And dropped down twice. And Devin Booker wasn’t a top 5 pick. Even if we went for the number 1 pick, we have no luck.

But even when we dropped, we ended up doing well. Of course, we might have drafted Jahlil cause of Phil but yea. It’s when we have tried to half-ass competing and tanking that we’ve run into a lot of trouble with Knox and Franks

[ENYK]

We’ve had the worst record twice? And dropped down twice. And Devin Booker wasn’t a top 5 pick. Even if we went for the number 1 pick, we have no luck.

The problem is, we don't know how to effectively orchestrate a rebuild. The Suns were terrible for a decade plus, messed up a bunch of lotto picks, and finally struck gold on two of them. That's just how it works. Small market teams have the patience for that, and it pays off... same with the Bucks, Sixers, etc.

The Knicks have selected in the top 4 only three times in 36 years, and they've been unwatchably bad for about 60% of that time.

The only thing we haven't tried at this point is consecutive seasons of true tanking. We tank one season, then try to make a run... Gotta just pick one direction or the other.

The Suns could have taken Luka Doncic I don’t care about this dude’s FG% this whole board would have crucified him by now for not being Luka Doncic if we drafted him

Booker was taken 13th. We can pull that off. All we have to do is keep drafting Kentucky players over and over and it will work out

Not taking Doncic was a vote of confidence in Booker. The way Luka has panned out, it's not really up for debate who they'd be better off building around, but Booker is a burgeoning superstar in his own right. The fact is, they have a one two punch of young stars moving forward that they got through drafting. And the Suns took their time doing it... No playoff appearances since the Nash Amare Suns.