How high up in the draft would both FRPs get us?
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How high up in the draft would both FRPs get us?
Just trying to figure out in this draft if we packaged both our top first round picks , how high could we realistically get to in the 1st round?
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19 and 21? Bottom lottery.
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For reference, in 2017, Portland traded 15 and 20 for 10
We have 19 and 21. So like, maybe 12 or 13 if we get lucky.
We have 19 and 21. So like, maybe 12 or 13 if we get lucky.
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I was gonna say 12-14 maybe
But the more important question is..... why? Who do you want in that range so bad that’s worth two picks
But the more important question is..... why? Who do you want in that range so bad that’s worth two picks
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robillionaire wrote:I was gonna say 12-14 maybe
But the more important question is..... why? Who do you want in that range so bad that’s worth two picks
A decent PG.
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I woudnt mind consolidating 2 lower picks to get 1 higher pick. No point having too many young guys on a franchise that coudnt develop for ****
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robillionaire wrote:I was gonna say 12-14 maybe
But the more important question is..... why? Who do you want in that range so bad that’s worth two picks
To be in range for James Bouknight and/or Josh Giddey.
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How about 19, 21, and 32?
The interesting question is what Obi's value is. Does he still have the value of the 8th pick? If we include him, how high can we go? Can we get our potential franchise player?
The interesting question is what Obi's value is. Does he still have the value of the 8th pick? If we include him, how high can we go? Can we get our potential franchise player?
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Adelheid wrote:I woudnt mind consolidating 2 lower picks to get 1 higher pick. No point having too many young guys on a franchise that coudnt develop for ****
while I agree with your sentiment regarding development, I'd rather have 2 chances at landing an impact player over 1. if the knicks are gonna package to move up in the draft, they might as well do everything possible to trade for the first pick.
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Nostrand Ave wrote:robillionaire wrote:I was gonna say 12-14 maybe
But the more important question is..... why? Who do you want in that range so bad that’s worth two picks
A decent PG.
well there isn't any, sorry
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15 if we're lucky but more than likely 17
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duetta wrote:How about 19, 21, and 32?
The interesting question is what Obi's value is. Does he still have the value of the 8th pick? If we include him, how high can we go? Can we get our potential franchise player?
This front office aint including him since thats their draft pick so wasted question
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robillionaire wrote:I was gonna say 12-14 maybe
But the more important question is..... why? Who do you want in that range so bad that’s worth two picks
Josh Giddey for mine
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nykinoz wrote:robillionaire wrote:I was gonna say 12-14 maybe
But the more important question is..... why? Who do you want in that range so bad that’s worth two picks
Josh Giddey for mine
I like giddey, but don't think he is worth trading up for imo. would rather just take our two swings at 19 and 21. giddey is intriguing but he isn't nearly a sure thing imo
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According to these analyses, 8-10 range. Seems high.
http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2
https://frontofficegurus.com/2020/11/17/nba-draft-2020-mock-draft-trade-package-analyses/
http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2
https://frontofficegurus.com/2020/11/17/nba-draft-2020-mock-draft-trade-package-analyses/
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Dave DaButcher wrote:According to these analyses, 8-10 range. Seems high.
http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2
https://frontofficegurus.com/2020/11/17/nba-draft-2020-mock-draft-trade-package-analyses/
damn, that's actually pretty interesting and useful. I'd be curious to know the value of future picks within this context.
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I read the Knicks are most likely packaging all our picks and moving up cause Thibs doesn’t want a lot of youngins on the roster.
Not sure how I feel about that, we seem to hit better later in the draft than earlier.
Not sure how I feel about that, we seem to hit better later in the draft than earlier.
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This is not football. It all depends on what GMs want at a given draft. I personally think it is better to get multiple players unless you can go all the way up to players with all NBA potential.
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Oscirus wrote:15 if we're lucky but more than likely 17
19 and 21 to move down JUST 2 spots?
No it will likely be better than that.
15 at minumum I would say. Keep in mind a team making the trade will have 2 guys they think will be pretty good in that range. Max i am not sure but probably no better than 12 some have suggested.
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K-DOT wrote:For reference, in 2017, Portland traded 15 and 20 for 10
We have 19 and 21. So like, maybe 12 or 13 if we get lucky.
In 2010, OKC got the 11th pick for the 21st n 26th.
Guess it depends on the draft, the talent available, and the team making the trade.
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