2020-21 NBA Season Discussion

[falcolombardi]

sixers doctors obviously know more than me but should they really play embiid so soon?

hopefully they are not risking him back cause team pressure

[MartinToVaught]

Trae's been thriving in the playoffs so far. Not a big fan of him because of the flopping/foul-baiting, but he still deserves a lot of credit.

[therealbig3]

I think the likelihood of one of the Nets big 3 getting injured this post season was insanely high given the sample size of the RS. That is something you had to take into account if you were high on Brooklyn, can they win a round without one of their big guns?

They have guys like Harris and Griffin way under market value still. Let's see what the original duo of Durant+Irving can put together.

I think Harden getting hurt is insanely bad luck though. Most durable player in the league and he ends up getting hurt and is out for an extended period of time.

If one of them was to get hurt come playoff time, I would have thought it would be either Kyrie or Durant, not Harden.

[falcolombardi]

I think the likelihood of one of the Nets big 3 getting injured this post season was insanely high given the sample size of the RS. That is something you had to take into account if you were high on Brooklyn, can they win a round without one of their big guns?

They have guys like Harris and Griffin way under market value still. Let's see what the original duo of Durant+Irving can put together.

I think Harden getting hurt is insanely bad luck though. Most durable player in the league and he ends up getting hurt and is out for an extended period of time.

If one of them was to get hurt come playoff time, I would have thought it would be either Kyrie or Durant, not Harden.

tbf he is 31 now. you cannot take health for granted when players are in the wrong side of 30

[MO12msu]

I think Doc Rivers is underrated as a regular season coach but he’s pretty brutal in the playoffs. He let the Hawks extend their lead in the early 2nd quarter with his decision to stick to normal rotations and not play starters. And then I get why he started with Green on Trae but it’s clearly not working, maybe try someone else? You have a lot of options man.

[MartinToVaught]

And then I get why he started with Green on Trae but it’s clearly not working, maybe try someone else? You have a lot of options man.

Don't expect any adjustments from him. This is the same guy who put Trez on Jokic, Jamal Crawford on Joe Johnson, etc.

[bwgood77]

I see a lot of CP3 on the Suns talk here as well as James Jones job. Since there are a lot of people with more historical knowledge of players on this forum, I wanted to see what you might have thought of this question and poll. I find the results pretty crazy. Feel free to vote since I think there is way too much recency bias of potentially newer Suns fans in this poll. viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2071238

I think even asking that question is absurd. I mean come on. Nash, Chuck, CP3 are all immediately obvious choices of players who are clearly better. Then just from the Nash teams you have Amare and Marion. Then there is Jason Kidd, Kevin Johnson just from PG's who were on a roster with Nash.

I haven't even tried yet and I've almost got him outside the top 10.

Here's how I responded:

So clearly, the OP is just asking about Peak, because Booker's career is negligible to this point.

Here's the thing:

Booker's never been a serious candidate for being considered to be a Top 10 player in the league.

Here are a list of Suns who have been on that level while playing for the franchise:

Connie Hawkins
Paul Westphal
Walter Davis
Kevin Johnson
Charles Barkley
Jason Kidd
Shawn Marion
Amar'e Stoudemire
Steve Nash

So, all of them, plus an argument for Larry Nance, Goran Dragic, and Chris Paul.

So no, I don't see Booker as a candidate like this yet.

In fairness, I think you can certainly argue that Booker is better than some of these historical Top 10 level guys, but my immediate thought really was "Wow, so basically to you Suns history basically began when Barkley got traded there."

Of course now people are posting after his last single game in the playoffs he is making a case for top 3. It's head scratching except for the fact that so many of the fans became fans either during Nash's era or when Barkley came

Even after great posts like this viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2071238&start=20#p91092848 and yours

[GSP]

Trae is gonna deserve some Poy votes. insane he didnt make the allstar team would he be the only Poy top 5 to not make one if he did?

[Texas Chuck]

Fans are going to get hyped and on a Suns board I think that's fine. I mean it took like 3 Luka games for the Mavs posters to start saying Dirk who? Or worse when we collectively had Free Roddy B in the HoF because he was 50/40/80 as a rookie with some monster scoring games and a physical profile that suggested he could be a good defender.

It's when we take our fan posts to a board like this where that get's more problematic. I just kind of expect some level of homerism on any team board at all times. And it seems appropriate. It's not for me so I haven't posted on the Mavs board here except in a Mod role for probably 4-5 years. I'm all about being a homer when watching the games with my kid, but on here I'm interested in objective conversations.

But I have read some of that thread and it is entertainment.

[GSP]

Embiid's defense is so overrated. He's basically a bit better Whiteside on defense. Monster rim protector and paint defender but porous in most defensive aspects outside the paint. Horrible pick and roll defender. Cement feet, bad defensive footwork.

[MartinToVaught]

It's crazy how the Hawks are the ones who look like the savvy veteran team.

[MartinToVaught]

The refs tried their hardest to give that game to the Sixers, but the Hawks showed an impressive amount of poise. Good game.

[Goudelock]

I'm not saying that Trae is the next Isiah Thomas, but he does seem to be sort of similar. Probably never going to be a serious contender for the best player in the league, but still a killer floor general who everyone hates. I could see him being the leader on some awesome teams in the Hawks load up on great defenders who play team basketball.

[MartinToVaught]

It's unbelievable how bad the Clippers are at rebounding today.

[70sFan]

Embiid's defense is so overrated. He's basically a bit better Whiteside on defense. Monster rim protector and paint defender but porous in most defensive aspects outside the paint. Horrible pick and roll defender. Cement feet, bad defensive footwork.

Is there a playing day when you don't post terrible hot takes here?

[GSP]

Embiid's defense is so overrated. He's basically a bit better Whiteside on defense. Monster rim protector and paint defender but porous in most defensive aspects outside the paint. Horrible pick and roll defender. Cement feet, bad defensive footwork.

Is there a playing day when you don't post terrible hot takes here?

Embiids defense isnt a hot take. Ive been critical of it for years now including how badly it got exposed when we swept them last year. His defense outside the paint is ass.

[70sFan]

Embiid's defense is so overrated. He's basically a bit better Whiteside on defense. Monster rim protector and paint defender but porous in most defensive aspects outside the paint. Horrible pick and roll defender. Cement feet, bad defensive footwork.

Is there a playing day when you don't post terrible hot takes here?

Embiids defense isnt a hot take. Ive been critical of it for years now including how badly it got exposed when we swept them last year. His defense outside the paint is ass.

You know that you don't need to switch everything to be good defensively right? Sixers lost last year because they were overmatched, not because of Embiid's defense.

[yoyoboy]

Luka just ran out of gas and the Clippers’ role players made huge plays today. Luka needs to work on those free throws for next season more than anything else.

[falcolombardi]

i dont think is game over yet

a good scoring streak at the start of the 4th quarter and the game is back in play

[mikejames23]

Mavs remind me a little of Kobe's pre-Gasol Lakers. Luka doing everything he can, but if you want him to score in the 3rd Quarter, and the 4th Quarter, he might as well be going for 60 points.

Clips should win this, heading into 4th Q.