The TRADE Thread 2021

jeffjtk1234 · Post #241 » by **jeffjtk1234** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:08 am

The clippers deal looks stupid now

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Lost in LA · Post #242 » by **Lost in LA** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:28 am

Keeping Holmes is now going to be more difficult

Post #243 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:47 am

Lost in LA wrote:Keeping Holmes is now going to be more difficult

That depends on how he's treated by the front office this off-season. He has already expressed how he feels about the team and city many times. It's up to the Kings to not mess things up.

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Post #244 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:49 am

codydaze wrote:So we're cutting Jabari Parker and Kabengele to make room for the deals. I would have rather moved or just cut Whiteside and let Kabengele get some burn...

Jerry West wanted Mfiondu Kabengele so he was drafted and get not used. He scored 38 points and had 14 rebounds in a G League game in 2020 and was never used on the Clips roster. Pathetic!

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SmellingColors · Post #245 » by **SmellingColors** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:06 am

HMFFL wrote:
Lost in LA wrote:Keeping Holmes is now going to be more difficult
That depends on how he's treated by the front office this off-season. He has already expressed how he feels about the team and city many times. It's up to the Kings to not mess things up.

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I will say, if the Kings somehow find a way to make the playoffs, there is probably a better chance Holmes resigns for a reasonable rate.

nolimit0820 · Post #246 » by **nolimit0820** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:29 pm

Or does that raise his value?

kalenclayton · Post #247 » by **kalenclayton** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:57 pm

nolimit0820 wrote:Or does that raise his value?

I think it raises his value to both the Kings and the rest of the league. Richaun is such a big part of this team. If the Kings make the playoffs, it’s because Holmes played a huge part.

Lost in LA · Post #248 » by **Lost in LA** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:09 pm

The recruitment would indicate Hield will be moved at year end to bring some cap relief.

VeeJay24 · Post #249 » by **VeeJay24** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:56 pm

Is it possible that the Kings and Holmes already have a hand shake agreement on a 1 yr deal for the MLE and then they will give him a longer deal after next year or would this make them lose his bird rights or is this even allowed under the CBA? Or Holmes would never do this. Either way I have to think McNair has some sorta plan to get Holmes signed since they had ample opportunity to move him before the deadline.

What I don't understand is basically getting a young player for nothing and not even taking a look at him? If you look at the body of work for Kabengele both in college, the G League and the few games he played with the Clippers it warranted a cursory look! He is a young big who defends the rim, he is a nice pick n roll man who can roll or pop. He's athletic and can post up. He would've definitely been a guy worthy of development. Plus, you had a great opportunity to take a look at him in game situation the last two nights. Toronto and San Antonio does this sort of thing all the time, finding guys where you least expect it. Metu has already shown flashes. I think the smarter move would've been to move Whiteside for a 2nd or just waiving him and rolling with the young guys until Bagley returns. I don't know if its Walton or not but it seems the Kings think any veteran no matter how bad they are on the court will somehow magically make them a playoff contender when in reality that young guy on the bench in the long run will make them better. Look how long it took them to go away from Ariza last year. Sorry for rambling a little bit.

radikalBaller · Post #250 » by **radikalBaller** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:44 am

You guy will like Silva, plays with a ton of non stop energy, and he is a Good person

kalenclayton · Post #251 » by **kalenclayton** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:57 pm

radikalBaller wrote:You guy will like Silva, plays with a ton of non stop energy, and he is a Good person

I’ve been excited to see him. Energy and grit have been needed and I could see him carving out some minutes here and there.

radikalBaller · Post #252 » by **radikalBaller** » Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:39 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
radikalBaller wrote:You guy will like Silva, plays with a ton of non stop energy, and he is a Good person

I’ve been excited to see him. Energy and grit have been needed and I could see him carving out some minutes here and there.

Yeah is like the tazmanian devil, never take a break, challenge every shot, fight for every rebound, you will love this guy. Good person too

dckingsfan · Post #253 » by **dckingsfan** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:09 pm

Lost in LA wrote:The recruitment would indicate Hield will be moved at year end to bring some cap relief.

Do you think they will try to move Woodard & Ramsey for corresponding bigs?
Fox, Wright, Hield & Haliburton at guard.
And Barnes, James, Bagley and Silva at forward.

Not a big deal, just wondering where they fit.

dckingsfan · Post #254 » by **dckingsfan** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:11 pm

VeeJay24 wrote:Is it possible that the Kings and Holmes already have a hand shake agreement on a 1 yr deal...

and... Metu has already shown flashes.

Yeah, the C position for the Kings is interesting for next year. If Holmes and Metu come back they are fine. Starting over... ugh.

TylersLakers · Post #255 » by **TylersLakers** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 11:16 pm

What are your guys thoughts on Harrison Barnes?

Would a Kuz, Gasol + 22 pick for Barnes be of interest to Kings fans?

skywalker33 · Post #256 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:51 pm

What's the trade line on Bagley, is he still wanted in SAC town , what would you guys be looking for in return ?

nolang1 · Post #257 » by **nolang1** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:33 pm

skywalker33 wrote:What's the trade line on Bagley, is he still wanted in SAC town , what would you guys be looking for in return ?

Probably a late 1st. They were trying to trade him for lottery pick equivalents (Saddiq Bey, John Collins) at the deadline and he got hurt again since then.

jeffjtk1234 · Post #258 » by **jeffjtk1234** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:00 pm

Jerami grant for 9 in a deal?

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kalenclayton · Post #259 » by **kalenclayton** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:43 pm

jeffjtk1234 wrote:Jerami grant for 9 in a deal?

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I think this is a large possibility to be framework for a deal, but I think both teams should be looking elsewhere. The Kings can absolutely use Grant, but I don’t think he’s anything more than a bandaid. I don’t see him as a future cog and we will likely be looking for an upgrade in a year when he’s an expiring (yes, I’m lower on him than the consensus). The Pistons seem to love him and he actually works with Cade. They may just keep him, but if they look to move him, a player may be more beneficial instead of 9.

I may hold too much value in lotto picks, but the reason I’m really gripping this #9 pick is because I think the Kings are farther away from really competing than the consensus (I’m sounding a little pessimistic). The only way trading for Grant makes me happy is if Buddy is going out at the same time. That accomplishes short-term improvement with long-term flexibility at the same time. I like a couple prospects at 9 (+years of team control) more than 2 years of Grant. It makes more sense to go younger than to dive deeper into this perpetual 8-seed chase. I’m sick of this cycle.

Beteo · Post #260 » by **Beteo** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:01 am

radikalBaller wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
radikalBaller wrote:You guy will like Silva, plays with a ton of non stop energy, and he is a Good person

I’ve been excited to see him. Energy and grit have been needed and I could see him carving out some minutes here and there.

Yeah is like the tazmanian devil, never take a break, challenge every shot, fight for every rebound, you will love this guy. Good person too

Also looking forward to see him! Really seems to be kind of "special" (or a great fit

).